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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 11:04 AM
Bad business for Baja news websites reporting on crime


AFN and Narcotijuana have been dead in the past few weeks for lack of to put it bluntly, murders in northern baja. Haven't seen it this quiet in years.



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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 12:28 PM


"No news is good news."
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 01:17 PM


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"No news is good news."


You're suggesting that there might be some coercion involved? :rolleyes:




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question.gif posted on 3-2-2010 at 02:02 PM


Jesse=cryptic :?::?::?:



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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 02:06 PM


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You're suggesting that there might be some coercion involved? :rolleyes:


Maybe Torres is getting his way.
Remember "1984" the book...not the year? New-Speak. Eliminate the word and you eliminate the concept. If the word "Crime" didn't exist, there would be no such thing as "Crime." That was the idea anyway. :lol:
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 02:17 PM


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AFN and Narcotijuana have been dead in the past few weeks for lack of to put it bluntly, murders in northern baja. Haven't seen it this quiet in years.


Jesse, you seem to be up on the crime scene here in TJ, do you (or anybody else here) think that The Engineer and the remaining AFO folks have the TJ corridor to themselves now?

The more things change, the more they stay the same?




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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 02:29 PM


There has been much in the Mexican press lately asserting that many feel Calderon has been playing favorites in the drug war to just that end.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 02:39 PM


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There has been much in the Mexican press lately asserting that many feel Calderon has been playing favorites in the drug war to just that end.


It is a logical course of action, he's not going to stop the drug trafficking, I think everyone knows that.




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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 03:48 PM


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AFN and Narcotijuana have been dead in the past few weeks for lack of to put it bluntly, murders in northern baja. Haven't seen it this quiet in years.


Jesse, you seem to be up on the crime scene here in TJ, do you (or anybody else here) think that The Engineer and the remaining AFO folks have the TJ corridor to themselves now?

The more things change, the more they stay the same?


The AFO is now in total control, and they want to "cool" the area, no more kidnappings, no more gruesome deaths, no more extorsions. It was bad for business, and they do seem to understand that the experiment of wild and unlimited violence did not pay off.

IMHO, the cartel struck a deal with the federal goverment and maybe the Sinaloa cartel. Only that would explain the impressive destruction of Teo's gang. Wich apparently did not get any support from Sinaloa, and was heavily targeted by the federal goverment.

Its too early to tell, but i believe good times are coming to baja.




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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:09 PM


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AFN and Narcotijuana have been dead in the past few weeks for lack of to put it bluntly, murders in northern baja. Haven't seen it this quiet in years.


Jesse, you seem to be up on the crime scene here in TJ, do you (or anybody else here) think that The Engineer and the remaining AFO folks have the TJ corridor to themselves now?

The more things change, the more they stay the same?


The AFO is now in total control, and they want to "cool" the area, no more kidnappings, no more gruesome deaths, no more extorsions. It was bad for business, and they do seem to understand that the experiment of wild and unlimited violence did not pay off.

IMHO, the cartel struck a deal with the federal goverment and maybe the Sinaloa cartel. Only that would explain the impressive destruction of Teo's gang. Wich apparently did not get any support from Sinaloa, and was heavily targeted by the federal goverment.

Its too early to tell, but i believe good times are coming to baja.


Hope you're right.

Just like the old days.

Unintended consequences of the drug war, AFO is back and folks are glad!!:lol:.




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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:12 PM


Does this mean there's going to be some kind of peaceful coexistance?
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:28 PM


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Does this mean there's going to be some kind of peaceful coexistance?


Hopefully. Is there any other peaceful way?




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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:29 PM


But, there's still a huge camel that stuck its nose into the tent. It's called "The War on Drugs". Y'all know how I feel about that. But it ain't going away anytime soon. So, are we just rolling back the clock ten years?
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:34 PM


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Does this mean there's going to be some kind of peaceful coexistance?


Hopefully. Is there any other peaceful way?


I'm not sure this is what the writers of the Merida Initiative had in mind.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:37 PM


Very true. However, as a Nomad sage posted here some time back, given Mexico's GDP, the dinero involved in the Merida Initiative seems like poquito cambio.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:41 PM


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Very true. However, as a Nomad sage posted here some time back, given Mexico's GDP, the dinero involved in the Merida Initiative seems like poquito cambio.


It's not the money. It's the act of capitulation that leaves the government a partner in crime. I don't think this will be well received.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 04:51 PM


By who, por favor? Just saying that this mierda has been going on for decades. What negative fallout do you anticipate? And bear in mind that the PRD is not a party that is going to run on exterminating drugs.
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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 05:11 PM


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By who, por favor?


The United States. Can't believe you had to ask.
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wow.gif posted on 3-2-2010 at 05:13 PM


Unbelievable! This is exactly the scenario I dreamed up in my imagination as to how to stop the violence. Nobody suggested it that I read. I was trying to think outside of the box; morals be damned. To me the most critical thing that HAD to be done was to stop the violence!

I put my idea up here on The Nomad a couple of times and didn't get any agreement, but I did get the normal reactionary opposition. :P

Like any political action (or non action) money is always at the root. When the stupid War on Drugs got to the point of diminishing returns, the government pulled the plug and made the deal. Now maybe Mexico can recover from its slide into a failed state, beginning with the return of its tourist trade. And maybe its people can come back out into the light without worry for their lives.

Of course, for me...People come first.

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[*] posted on 3-2-2010 at 05:15 PM


I think some here are jumping to conclusions.
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