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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Who said that?
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Fulano. That guy sure gets around.
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I guess I'm gonna have to start using this: ........©........ 
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Nancy,
I thought that you were Fulano. |
Keep it up Goat.
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by arrowhead]
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
I am late for surfing. |
This explains everything. 
My apologies for thinking you're delusional.
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mtgoat666
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Ms Nancy Fulano:
Looks delicious 
Yum, yum
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
Nancy,
I thought that you were Fulano. |
Keep it up Goat.
[Edited on 3-12-2010 by arrowhead] |
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
gnukid, tell everybody how many of these many robbery incidents in BCS you have described were reported to the police...and why.
I'm just saying that because some people here think the story is bogus because the victims did not report the robbery to the police.
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First off Head I owe you nothing, you provide no benefit to me and have no good intentions as far as I can tell.
Knowing you, you are glee-full to hear of crimes on innocents. So shove it.
I have reported crimes-too many. I have participated in a cleansing that I am proud of and can affect change in a specific neighborhood but I can not
manage all of BCS.
I also posted reports here. When I did I was ridiculed much as you are doing now. So I am a bad guy for speaking up, right? Vicitmize the victims,
right Head?
The problem is clear, every small crime is related to bigger criminals as was stated by a TJ police chief recently. The truth is no one will prosecute
real criminals due to fear unless they feel more fear by not acting.
You recall the AG of BCS just quit over a case of non-prosecution? etc... etc...
I have sat inside the dark inner rooms of the Policia Ministerial surrounded by guns and bleary-eyed commandantes starring blankly back at me. But
through some simple emotion and logic I convinced them to act in a few cases on behalf of the children and seniors and our future. I am proud to see
positive progress.
People like yourself, DK and many others here have made threatening statements to me, which certainly discourages the community strength of this
community - which is likely your perverse goal. Why?
Perhaps some of you recall the time I went before a federal judge who hears cases of local corruption, at the time I was on the stand my phone rang,
it was the corrupt guys calling me, the judge said put it on speaker, the bad guys were calling me to ask me to meet to exchange money for stolen
items, I agreed they told me to me them in MP. This wasn't fun as it became public record with them trying to victimize me over over but I survived
and that's likely why I know them so well.
There are many many people in jail and many more on their way due to our efforts or at least they will have to leave town but it wasn't very fun
process and I likely won't do it again.
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Please keep posting the truth. We all know many serious crimes in Mexico go unreported- but not necessarily ignored. That's why I think crimes stats
are not very useful. I know I did not formally report four serious crimes against our family. We took care of three of them ourselves- through
personal channels. The other was out of our hands. It's the way things get fixed down here for now without endangering your family even more.
Hopefully that will change with time.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
We all know many serious crimes in Mexico go unreported- |
Traditionally they went unreported because it was more often than not the police who commited the crime. If it wasn't the police, it was their
cousins. The victim couldn't win.
Years ago, I had a Mexican buddy who had his house robbed of a few items including a cassette player. He reported it and the police found the
bandidos, recovering the stolen property. My bud was asked to go to the station and identify the cassette player, which he did.
Asking if he could retrieve his property, he was met with wide-eyed disbelief from the police who said "No Way"....this is evidence.
Bud asks when he can have his property and was told, "Never, Sr. Pendejo. It will be evidence forever."
Nice place.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
I am late for surfing. |
This explains everything.
My apologies for thinking you're delusional. |
The implication being surfers are delusional. Don't you know work is for people who can't surf - that would be you.
So get to work at that kosher deli you opened in the ejido, talk about delusions - jeez.
Maybe you should learn how to shoot pool.
All in good fun Davey. 
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
We all know many serious crimes in Mexico go unreported- |
Traditionally they went unreported because it was more often than not the police who commited the crime. If it wasn't the police, it was their
cousins. The victim couldn't win.
Years ago, I had a Mexican buddy who had his house robbed of a few items including a cassette player. He reported it and the police found the
bandidos, recovering the stolen property. My bud was asked to go to the station and identify the cassette player, which he did.
Asking if he could retrieve his property, he was met with wide-eyed disbelief from the police who said "No Way"....this is evidence.
Bud asks when he can have his property and was told, "Never, Sr. Pendejo. It will be evidence forever."
Nice place. |
On the flip side, I am sure many serious crimes against Mexican immigrants in the USA go unreported for various reasons as well. Maybe it's a
statistical wash.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Dave
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Sorry, that wasn't my intent
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
The implication being surfers are delusional. |
I would never knowingly insult the mentally impaired.
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Bajahowodd
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I came late to the party. But I do have a few comments regarding the initial post and story.
It has already been mentioned, but bears repeating that only a doofus would walk around, especially at night, carrying such a large amount of cash.
The story has absolutely no detail or corroborating information beyond this guy's 40 second statement.
Just about any major hotel in this resort has in-room safes, and they are usually very careful to warn guests about where to store their valuables.
The guy said that they were so upset that they left most of their belongings behind. OK. This incident happened at 11:30 at night. Did they just hail
a cab (having no money) and go to the airport and wait for the terminal to open in the morning? Last I knew, there are no night flights at SJD. So
let's assume that they did go back to their hotel. Then, not tell anyone what happened? If they went back to their hotel, why would they not have
packed their stuff?
Unlike some areas of Mexico, there is a fairly obvious police presence. And a very high degree of English speakers throughout all the businesses.
We don't have a clue as to where this incident allegedly happened. "Cabo" consists of a couple dozen miles and even more hotels.
Whatever happened, if it happened, deserves to be covered in much greater detail than the posted story. What is has done, as was previously noted,
places a very negative image in the media at the onset of the busiest part of the year for the locals.
There's just no flesh on those bones.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
I came late to the party. But I do have a few comments regarding the initial post and story.
It has already been mentioned, but bears repeating that only a doofus would walk around, especially at night, carrying such a large amount of cash.
The story has absolutely no detail or corroborating information beyond this guy's 40 second statement.
Just about any major hotel in this resort has in-room safes, and they are usually very careful to warn guests about where to store their valuables.
The guy said that they were so upset that they left most of their belongings behind. OK. This incident happened at 11:30 at night. Did they just hail
a cab (having no money) and go to the airport and wait for the terminal to open in the morning? Last I knew, there are no night flights at SJD. So
let's assume that they did go back to their hotel. Then, not tell anyone what happened? If they went back to their hotel, why would they not have
packed their stuff?
Unlike some areas of Mexico, there is a fairly obvious police presence. And a very high degree of English speakers throughout all the businesses.
We don't have a clue as to where this incident allegedly happened. "Cabo" consists of a couple dozen miles and even more hotels.
Whatever happened, if it happened, deserves to be covered in much greater detail than the posted story. What is has done, as was previously noted,
places a very negative image in the media at the onset of the busiest part of the year for the locals.
There's just no flesh on those bones. |
good points...
I do think most people who see or read this "story" stateside stop listening to facts and reason after the words "Cabo, van, masked men, gun, hands up
skirt". Given the recent history of violence- they mentally shut down after that and the details of how and why and the could-haves and should-haves
don't matter to them. They just figure it's more of the same in Mexico and Baja- whether it is 100% true or not. The damage is already done and the
extent of it is dependent on how viral the story goes from here.
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monoloco
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I have to agree with Howodd, there are parts to this story that just don't pass the" smell test".
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Donjulio
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http://crimeincharlotte.blogspot.com/
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Donjulio
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Charlotte Crime Statistics for February 2010
Through the end of February, the preliminary total for Index Offenses was -17.5% lower than this time last year. Property crime decreased by -18.9%
while violent crime decreased by -7.3%.
* 7 homicides were reported through February 2010 compared to the same amount, 7 in 2009.
* All of the violent Index crime categories experienced decreases:
- 287 robberies were reported compared to 308, resulting in a decrease of -6.8%
* 29 rapes were reported compared to 33, resulting in a decrease of -12.1%.
* 393 aggravated assaults were reported compared to 424, resulting in a decrease of -7.3%.
* Burglary overall was down -10.0%, (1293 compared to 1437) with a decrease of -1.6% in residential (1073 compared to 1091) and -36.4% in commercial
cases (220 compared to 346).
* 388 vehicle thefts were reported compared to 620, resulting in a decrease of -37.4%.
* Total larceny cases declined by -19.3% (3146 compared to 3897) with the larcenies from auto down by -32.5% (1415 compared to 2096).
* 45 arson cases were reported compared to 50, resulting in a decrease of -10.0%
Think I'd rather be in Cabo
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
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On the flip side, I am sure many serious crimes against Mexican immigrants in the USA go unreported for various reasons as well. Maybe it's a
statistical wash. |
Your ass. This is a Baja site. Apply all pertinent info to our Baja.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
A thousand bucks in Cabo while on vacation doesnt sound like too much walking around money to me.
A thousand dollars ain't worth what it used to be............... |
Really?? Next time you're in TJ let me know, we'll hit some clubs together. LOTS of fun with a 1000 bucks to blow. |
Sorry, dont flash it around UNDESIRABLE TJ TYPES THAT LIVE IN THE PLAYAS.
TJ ain't Cabo...................it's much worse. But you know that..........or should.
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Bajahowodd
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Ah! But The Damage Is Done
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I have to agree with Howodd, there are parts to this story that just don't pass the" smell test". |
Cabo ain't TJ. From what I've read and heard, most of the crimes in this very tourist-important location have been as a result of men behaving badly.
i.e. tourists looking for drugs or hoars.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
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A thousand bucks in Cabo while on vacation doesnt sound like too much walking around money to me.
A thousand dollars ain't worth what it used to be............... |
Really?? Next time you're in TJ let me know, we'll hit some clubs together. LOTS of fun with a 1000 bucks to blow. |
Sorry, dont flash it around UNDESIRABLE TJ TYPES THAT LIVE IN THE PLAYAS.
TJ ain't Cabo...................it's much worse. But you know that..........or should. |
Oh darn, come on, it's a lot of fun. Bring your kilobuck. Lets party. 
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Bajahowodd
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Drugs or hoars?
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
A thousand bucks in Cabo while on vacation doesnt sound like too much walking around money to me.
A thousand dollars ain't worth what it used to be............... |
Really?? Next time you're in TJ let me know, we'll hit some clubs together. LOTS of fun with a 1000 bucks to blow. |
Sorry, dont flash it around UNDESIRABLE TJ TYPES THAT LIVE IN THE PLAYAS.
TJ ain't Cabo...................it's much worse. But you know that..........or should. |
Oh darn, come on, it's a lot of fun. Bring your kilobuck. Lets party.
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BajaRat
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I Checked and re-checked the written account and there seems to be some descrepancies. In my job I hear alot of horror stories and it allways amazes
me at the details people remember when bad things happen. They were in such a hurry that they left their get away van?
All in all it's sad but desperate times bring out the best in some and worst in others. These things are happening right now, right here and all over
this beautiful planet. Unfortunatly bad press goes a long way. It's also much more exciting to report a crime in a nice place compared to a location
were you would expect that type of activity.
Lionel
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