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bajafam
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Rat...shouldn't you be working?!  But, good point....scary sh** happens
everywhere...even in small town USA.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Charlotte Crime Statistics for February 2010
Through the end of February, the preliminary total for Index Offenses was -17.5% lower than this time last year. Property crime decreased by -18.9%
while violent crime decreased by -7.3%.
* 7 homicides were reported through February 2010 compared to the same amount, 7 in 2009.
* All of the violent Index crime categories experienced decreases:
- 287 robberies were reported compared to 308, resulting in a decrease of -6.8%
* 29 rapes were reported compared to 33, resulting in a decrease of -12.1%.
* 393 aggravated assaults were reported compared to 424, resulting in a decrease of -7.3%.
* Burglary overall was down -10.0%, (1293 compared to 1437) with a decrease of -1.6% in residential (1073 compared to 1091) and -36.4% in commercial
cases (220 compared to 346).
* 388 vehicle thefts were reported compared to 620, resulting in a decrease of -37.4%.
* Total larceny cases declined by -19.3% (3146 compared to 3897) with the larcenies from auto down by -32.5% (1415 compared to 2096).
* 45 arson cases were reported compared to 50, resulting in a decrease of -10.0%
Think I'd rather be in Cabo |
Really? Before I made a move to a place with a lower crime rate, the first thing I would want to know is, "what is the crime rate of the place I'm in
compared to the place I'm going to". I just happened to casually notice that you did not mention the crime rate in Cabo. So how would a person with
two fully-functioning frontal lobes make an intellgent decision?
p.s. Welcome back...for the third time. Will you be staying this time?
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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UnoMas
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Reading this thread makes me think about how naive I was on my first trip to Baja. Going to a resort on the recomendation of a client for sport
fishing, I was not at all familiar the place, culture or anything. Had no idea of how to handle money and used U.S. dollars for all transactions. Was
also told NOT to leave money in your room and think it may have been in info from the resort it self. There was a safe in the office you could place
valuables but thought that might be risky as well.
Point being is that those of us who have many years in Mexico have become accustom to the way of life there and most don't have any problems with
crime, other than getting ripped off at the local Pemex. we know what risks may be involved. Take someone with no knowledge of the territory
they are entering makes for easy targets, JMO. So Just because these people had money on them and the fact that some of the things they may have done
after the alleged crime I would not dismiss the fact that this happened.
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gnukid
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Headly
It's been well reported this week that:
Many US cities have crime/arrest cuotas:
"Adil Polanco, a five-year veteran of the NYPD’s 41st Precinct in the Bronx, confirmed to WABC that police are under relentless official pressure to make arrests and issue summonses in order to meet arbitrary quotas."
"Our primary job is not to help anybody, our primary job is not to assist anybody, our primary job is to get those numbers and come back with them?"
said Officer Polanco.
In addition, this week a Texas judged ruled that due to the large number of forced confessions of innocent people capital punishment was ruled unconstitutional.
“Based on the moratorium (on the death penalty) in Illinois, the Innocence Project and more than 200 people being exonerated nationwide, it can only
be concluded that innocent people have been executed,” state District Judge Kevin Fine said. “It's safe to assume we execute innocent people.”
And here is another report this week that states that UK violent crime statistics are manipulated, false and misleading.
In light of the well reported manipulation of US crime statistics and the well understood fact that Mexico crimes are vastly under-reported, your
constant desire for A to B comparisons would obviously provide little valid empirical comparison to draw from. So why do you constantly belabor the US
vs MX comparisons based on clearly flawed data?
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Head
Since you have a well established and derogatory view of Baja and it's visitors, why don't you tell us why you come here and insist in side-lining
this site and it's community with derision?
Where does your passion lie and what are you interested in about Baja which brings you here?
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Gnukid, my interests are simple:
1. I'd like to see that my fellow American citizens traveling to Baja are fully apprised of the situation. That would include the crime situation, the
state of the medical arts in Mexico, and anything else that would directly impact their health and wellbeing. In order to accomplish that, I firmly
believe that Americans contemplating traveling to Baja are entitled to full disclosure of all the facts so that they can reach their own INFORMED
decision.
2. I'd like to see that my fellow American citizens traveling to Baja are fully apprised of the unethical, fraudulent and dangerous rip-offs foisted
upon them by their fellow Americans -- and Mexicans.
Isn't that the stated purpose of BajaNomads? If I am incorrect, please let me know. There are plenty of people here who will talk about the good
things in Baja. I'll leave it to them to discuss, since there seems to be no shortage of that discussion here.
Now, gnukid, what are YOUR interests? Wait, let me guess:
1. Uncovering secret plots and conspiracies.
2. Surfing and kiteboarding.
3. Speaking Spanish to your homies down there in the worst Gringo accent I have ever heard (bway-nose dee-aahs seen-yours). I watched your videos on
your blog. Especially that one where you are filming and talking to the soldiers at a check-point.
4. Writing home to Mommy for more money because you have not worked an honest job in your entire life.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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gnukid
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Altruistic goodguy? Yeah that's the ticket.
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Donjulio
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I want an honest answer from the admin why Arrowhead can talk crap about people but twice now I bring up something about Arrowhead and the post is
deleted. Ban me if you want, no great loss but that's a load of chit.
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Donjulio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Charlotte Crime Statistics for February 2010
Through the end of February, the preliminary total for Index Offenses was -17.5% lower than this time last year. Property crime decreased by -18.9%
while violent crime decreased by -7.3%.
* 7 homicides were reported through February 2010 compared to the same amount, 7 in 2009.
* All of the violent Index crime categories experienced decreases:
- 287 robberies were reported compared to 308, resulting in a decrease of -6.8%
* 29 rapes were reported compared to 33, resulting in a decrease of -12.1%.
* 393 aggravated assaults were reported compared to 424, resulting in a decrease of -7.3%.
* Burglary overall was down -10.0%, (1293 compared to 1437) with a decrease of -1.6% in residential (1073 compared to 1091) and -36.4% in commercial
cases (220 compared to 346).
* 388 vehicle thefts were reported compared to 620, resulting in a decrease of -37.4%.
* Total larceny cases declined by -19.3% (3146 compared to 3897) with the larcenies from auto down by -32.5% (1415 compared to 2096).
* 45 arson cases were reported compared to 50, resulting in a decrease of -10.0%
Think I'd rather be in Cabo |
Really? Before I made a move to a place with a lower crime rate, the first thing I would want to know is, "what is the crime rate of the place I'm in
compared to the place I'm going to". I just happened to casually notice that you did not mention the crime rate in Cabo. So how would a person with
two fully-functioning frontal lobes make an intellgent decision?
p.s. Welcome back...for the third time. Will you be staying this time? |
OK EXPERT - you want to tell me the numbers in Cabo are bigger than this? Right! What a load of crap.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Ban me if you want, |
Now....don't get me wrong, but didn't you leave forever the other day or am I imagining that?
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Donjulio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Ban me if you want, |
Now....don't get me wrong, but didn't you leave forever the other day or am I imagining that? |
Dennis you don't want to play this game.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Dennis you don't want to play this game. |
Why not? Don't you think I know how?
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Donjulio
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Dennis you don't want to play this game. |
Why not? Don't you think I know how? |
Oh we all know you know how. We have to see the Dibble everyday. But maybe its time you just let it go.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
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Oh we all know you know how. We have to see the Dibble everyday. But maybe its time you just let it go. |
What's "Dibble?" What am I supposed to let go? I have not yet begun.
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Dave
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This...
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
What's "Dibble?" |
Is a Dibble.
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arrowhead
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Just for the record, I do not believe that anybody should be banned or any posts deleted, except where they are doing something clearly illegal or
just posting to be disruptive and not adding to the dialogue.
And for Donjulio and gnukid and the rest here who think I am all over this board on a Mission from God to right all wrongs, take a good look at my
posts. On most of the topics here I do not post at all. I think everybody is entitled to an opinion, and you rarely see me posting on an opinion
tread. If somebody says Tita's fish tacos are better than Juana's, you won't hear from me. It's just a matter of opinion which is better. If somebody
says Campo Pedo is a better place to camp than Campo Mierda, I don't comment. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If somebody says the fishing is
better at Punta Puta than at Puerto Pocho, it's not anything I'm concerned with.
But when somebody posts some crime statistics for a city in the US, without even telling us how many people live there and converting the crime rate
into a per capita rate for comparison, and then says Cabo is safer without posting even one single crime statistic on Cabo, that gets my attention.
That is just blowing smoke up somebody's burro.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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arrowhead
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Jesus, all my best work ends up on the cutting room floor.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
Jesus, all my best work ends up on the cutting room floor. |
mine too it seems...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Bajahowodd
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Has anyone found any additional info about this incident? I was just thinking about one other aspect that fostered my skepticism. According to the
original report, this was not a robbery. What the initial report contends is that a bunch of masked men decided to conduct a sexual assault on a
public street.
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snowcat5
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Something is not adding up here, with the guy's story. He says the bandits drove up in a van, he paid them money, then they "ran off"? Where is/
what happened to the van? Did they leave it? Or did it disappear?
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Has anyone found any additional info about this incident? I was just thinking about one other aspect that fostered my skepticism. According to the
original report, this was not a robbery. What the initial report contends is that a bunch of masked men decided to conduct a sexual assault on a
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I don't believe a word of it.
If I were someone associated with the Mexican tourist industry I'd spend some money investigating this incident and this guy. It might just
payoff in spades.
I'm not saying it couldn't happen...Just don't believe it did.
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