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JESSE
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Baja crime problems getting better
Many here know i have been very critical of the problems related to organized crime in northern and souther baja. I have critized the authorities, the
president, and anybody related to the problem. Recently, since the group of Teodoro Garcia Simental was destroyed by law enforcement, Tijuana wich is
the epicenter of the problems in the region, has experienced a dramatic reduction of murders and drug related crimes. How do i know? because i follow
closely the events in the area thanks to friends in the goverment and police, as well as few highschool friends that took the wrong path. You have a
few posters here who don't seem to like the fact that there has been an improvement. And that it took the lives of dozens of police officers and
civilians to achieve it. I think its fair, just like we criticized authorities when there was 10 murders a day, to aknowledge that the current 1
murder a day situation IS an improvement.
My friends and family in Tijuana say things are better, people feeling the worst is over, and thats a general feeling from everybody i know.
Is there a lot more work to do? yes, are the local criminal elements done? no. But we have to admit that the work of the army and Tijuana police
department worked. It worked because unlike the attitude of most other police departments in Mexico, this one decided it wasn't going to bow to the
criminals no matter what. The results, dozens of police officers dead, and a police chief experiencing pressure that only generals in battle
experience. The result? the destruction of one of the most violent criminal gangs in all of Mexico, and the realization by their competitos, the
Arellano Felix, that brutal violence, like the one we see in Juarez, does not work in Baja. They are now keeping a very low profile, just like it
should be, just like it is in Japan, the US, or Great Brittain.
Is Baja a safe place to travel?
I would still wait at least a few more months before i would feel more comfortable traveling in and around the Tijuana-Ensenada corridor. Things are a
lot better, but its still to early to feel comfortable considering whats happened there.
Is the rest of Baja safe?
Off course it is, it always has been, and its still is.
Will there be more news about crimes?
Yes, Baja has a lot more people than it had just 15 years ago, theres tens of thousands of more Mexicans from the mainland, and theres tens of
thousands more foreigners. Things will happen, and this is a "small" town, here in La Paz a crime that would otherwise not even make it in the news in
Tijuana, is a huge thing down here.
Things change, Baja isnt as remote and empty as it was THANKS TO ALL OF US. But in the mayority of the state, things are still as wild and empty as
they have always been. This will change off course, and perhaps our grandchildren or their children wont get to ever experience what we do right now,
and thats the reason why we should be careful when things are truly wrong, but also take advantage of the fact that we are some of the last people who
will ever get to experience our Baja, the way we know it, the way we grew up on it.
I am planning a trip to Tijuana in the next weeks, i usually went there and stayed there as little as i could, getting out of there as soon as i
finished my business. But this time, i am staying a few days, i am eating at a few restaurants, i am visiting some friends, and i am might just go to
Rosarito and eat at el Nido like the old times.
I believe all the people that lost their lives in thee past few years, and their families, deserve it.
[Edited on 3-15-2010 by JESSE]
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DENNIS
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THIS is what should be printed in the US newspapers. Honesty.
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DanO
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| Quote: | Originally posted by JESSEI am planning a trip to Tijuana in the next weeks, i usually went there and stayed there as little as i could,
getting out of there as soon as i finished my business. But this time, i am staying a few days, i am eating at a few restaurants, i am visiting some
friends, and i am might just go to Rosarito and eat at el Nido like the old times.
I believe all the people that lost their lives in thee past few years, and their families, deserve it. |
Whatever anyone else has to say about this post (and they won't be bashful about it), I appreciate someone who puts their money where their mouth is.
Good for you, Jesse.
\"Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.\" -- Frank Zappa
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DENNIS
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I know it's Sunday evening but,,,,bump....This has to be seen
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josie
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Thanks Jesse. Very well stated.
rude people and dog haters suck
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Thank you Jesse. Your report was right on.
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noproblemo2
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Re-bump...........
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DENNIS
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Jesse....or an interested party.....send it here. I support you 100%.
letters@uniontrib.com.
"Letters To The Editor" are read by almost everybody.
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noproblemo2
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With credits to both the Author, Jesse and Nomads lets get this posted everywhere
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Paula
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This is great news, Jesse! Thank you for taking the time to post it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Jesse....or an interested party.....send it here. I support you 100%.
letters@uniontrib.com.
"Letters To The Editor" are read by almost everybody. |
Done
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torch
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right on Jesse
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by noproblemo2
Done |
Right on, NoPro...
This might be easier said than done. I doubt they accept second hand submissions. In the past, they wouldn't.
Well see.
Well find a way.
[Edited on 3-15-2010 by DENNIS]
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Holy smokes, Jesse
This is like the third time in the past two weeks you have started a thread on the lowering murder rate in Baja. I corrected you once and you went
ballistic. Well prepare for launch again. The murder statistics are a known quantity. All the papers pick them up from the police agencies. In 2010,
the murder rate in TJ has never been higher. You just can't talk to some compa's and report that as facts.
Murders in Tijuana
1/1/2010 through 3/14/2010 = 192 = 2.63 murders per day (1)
1/1/2009 through 12/16/2009 = 603 = 1.72 murders per day (2)
1/1/2008 through 12/31/2008 = 844 = 2.31 murders per day (2)
(1) http://www.noroeste.com.mx/adelantos.php?id=13511
(2) http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/17/killings-poin...
...and by the way, the murder rate in Mexicali, historically a calm place, are ramping up rapidly.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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DENNIS
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Oh well...it sounded good. Hope and desperation rise as one, it seems.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
THIS is what should be printed in the US newspapers. Honesty. |
Why? "A half-truth is a whole lie"- as one Nomads signature line says. Jesse and many others are still in denial of reality. It's muy macho. There's
no shame in Mexico. I am living here full time right now-so stop blowing smoke up my burro. It's a broken record and pretty soon they'll be passing
around the Jonestown Koolaid. No one believes it anyway or tourism wouldn't be down 80% here.
Here is the truth. You can't solve a problem you don't have. The police corruption problem in TJ was never solved- they ran out of will and educated
"clean" bodies to replace them with. The Military was just as bad when they got to TJ to save it from the police. Their "clean and psychologically
tested" military men and commanders were later found to be corrupt and actually working against and killing the TJ police. Some top TJ police
commanders were corrupt too- so there is plenty of blame to go around- but no solutions except to hide the truth.
In 2006 there were over 300 criminal detentions in TJ per day- over 12,000 for the year. Those are Mexico's numbers based on the success of their
state of the art $15 Million dollar camera/surveillance system. And that 12,000 is just from that system alone mind you. After the military took
over the system at C4, they used the system against the police to prove who was worse. With its GPS capabilities, it tracked the movement of every TJ
police vehicle. The whole system was yanked out. Not because it didn't work, because it worked too well. They simply weren't ready for that much
honesty and public disclosure of the extent of the crime and corruption. They still aren't ready or the camera system would be back up by now.
What would the true crime numbers for TJ be 2007-2010 if they were't afraid to see the truth they had on the monitors and GPS tracking before them at
C4? They saw how bad it really was and pulled the plug on the whole system rather than reveal the true crime stats. Why should TJ look so bad alone
when other Mexican cities must certainly be worse- but with no advanced system to document it. My guess is the crime stats were trending-up so high
no one would have gone near TJ at all.
If Jesse, his fiends in TJ police or anyone else has a better explanation for why this futuristic system was removed- state it. I'd really like to
know why the camera housings are empty. They worked, they were expensive- but TJ has lost far more in lost tourism than the $15 Million initial cost.
No one really knows when the system was pulled out either. No one noticed or said a word publicly- or warned us we were again on our own when driving
"the gauntlet". I only noticed they were gone recently- when I looked for them after a failed carjacking attempt on us while driving from Rosarito to
TJ last month- at noon on a weekday no less. Someone must know why and when- but no one is talking.
It also ticks me off that TJ/Rosarito claims to do everything they can to protect tourists when the system they correctly installed to protect driving
visitors from the border to the toll road entry at Playas is now gone (also gone are the downtown TJ tourist zone cameras). How can they credibly
demand a retraction of the recent Travel Alert about tourists being followed and harassed in their cars in border regions when they allowed the system
to go away that protected the driving tourists in that area? Huh? This helps make their case how? Also missing are the solar-powered emergency
phones on the toll road to Rosarito.
Just take a look at this advanced system, and then at empty camera housings on the Via Rapida to Rosarito.
"The system is a high-tech combination of cameras, emergency call buttons on red posts and handheld computers for police officers on the street.
Information is routed through a central command center (C4) that is equipped with 60 video screens and staffed 24 hours a day. A map of the city
displays the location of patrol cars tracked by Global Positioning System devices."
http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/2007071...
[Edited on 3-15-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Jesse there will always be those of us who love and live life to the fullest and enjoy different people, places, cultures and adventures, and those
that are so scared, bitter and narcissistic that they want to ruin it for everyone else.
I am truly amazed at the racial slants and hatred towards Mexico and Mexicans that I continuously see on this board. Sometimes I wonder whether this
is for Baja or the Aryan Nation.
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Jesse there will always be those of us who love and live life to the fullest and enjoy different people, places, cultures and adventures, and those
that are so scared, bitter and narcissistic that they want to ruin it for everyone else.
I am truly amazed at the racial slants and hatred towards Mexico and Mexicans that I continuously see on this board. Sometimes I wonder whether this
is for Baja or the Aryan Nation. |
 Another genius enters the debate that has nothing to add to the discussion but
denials and distractions. Aryan? Give me a break. Wait a minute- where are all the black people down here?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Donjulio
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Speaking of genius...what do black people have to do with it? If you think Aryan is only about black then your ignorance took a front seat to my
genius.
And really the fact that you even bring up black people is exactly the kind of mentality that I was talking about.
[Edited on 3-15-2010 by Donjulio]
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Donjulio
Speaking of genius...what do black people have to do with it? If you think Aryan is only about black then your ignorance took a front seat to my
genius.
And really the fact that you even bring up black people is exactly the kind of mentality that I was talking about.
[Edited on 3-15-2010 by Donjulio] |
Oh- so the Aryans in Mexico are anti-brown too? puhlease. I though you left this board for good last week already...
Aryan is pro-white and anti-anything of any other color. period. Just more deceptions. BTW- Chinese don't get treated so well down here either...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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