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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Aryan is pro-white and anti-anything of any other color. period. Just more deceptions. BTW- Chinese don't get treated so well down here either...
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What about these guys?
http://www.aztlan.net/
Are they colorblind or confused?
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Aryan is pro-white and anti-anything of any other color. period. Just more deceptions. BTW- Chinese don't get treated so well down here either...
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What about these guys?
http://www.aztlan.net/
Are they colorblind or confused? |
My observation was that there are no blacks in Mexico. That's not racist. It's just being observant.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Donjulio
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Speaking of genius...what do black people have to do with it? If you think Aryan is only about black then your ignorance took a front seat to my
genius.
And really the fact that you even bring up black people is exactly the kind of mentality that I was talking about.
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Oh- so the Aryans in Mexico are anti-brown too? puhlease. I though you left this board for good last week already...
Aryan is pro-white and anti-anything of any other color. period. Just more deceptions. BTW- Chinese don't get treated so well down here either...
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I was leaving because I am tired of the bashing, the hatred and the ignorance. But then why let a few idiots run me off when there are loads of really
great people on here doing what this board is really for. That is talking about the sunrises, the sunsets, the surfing, the tacos, the whales, the
camping, the people, the sites and scenes that so many of us love.
We will just continue to enjoy Mexico and it's people while you guys/gals do whatever it is you feel you need to do. Maybe when they issue you guys a
3 day pass you can see the beauty for yourselves.
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Woooosh
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Well it looks like your meds finally kicked in. Good for you. You have all that Baja beauty to get out there and enjoy with 80% less tourists to get
in your way. Nothing is as we remember or want it to be in 2010. The world has degraded and changed for the worse- not just Mexico...everywhere.
It's only going to get worse- so enjoy it now.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by arrowhead
This is like the third time in the past two weeks you have started a thread on the lowering murder rate in Baja. I corrected you once and you went
ballistic. Well prepare for launch again. The murder statistics are a known quantity. All the papers pick them up from the police agencies. In 2010,
the murder rate in TJ has never been higher. You just can't talk to some compa's and report that as facts.
Murders in Tijuana
1/1/2010 through 3/14/2010 = 192 = 2.63 murders per day (1)
1/1/2009 through 12/16/2009 = 603 = 1.72 murders per day (2)
1/1/2008 through 12/31/2008 = 844 = 2.31 murders per day (2)
(1) http://www.noroeste.com.mx/adelantos.php?id=13511
(2) http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2009/dec/17/killings-poin...
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Seems you just can't stick to the facts can you? you keep posting info and data previous to this past March, but you conveniently keep ignoring the
hard and cristal clear numbers from the past couple of weeks. Just go ahead and admit it, you just hate it that there is progress in baja.
Teodoro Garcia Simental's gang, was responsible for most of the murders in the past few years. He was arrested January 12. His top two capos where
arrested the 8th of March. From that time on, his group disintegrated, most fled the state.
Total murders:
January: 99 murders
February: 45
March (as of the 15th): 8
Heres the army general in charge of Baja confirming the obvious trend:
http://www.milenio.com/node/386576
Anyone is free to do the math at any of the non goverment websites that specialize in reporting these crimes:
http://narcotijuana.info/
http://afntijuana.info/blog/
Or even better, go that that website where madness spends all day on a computer reporting about these crimes.
Its all there.
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k-rico
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I live in TJ and am feeling better about the narco crime situation. I think the elimination of El Teo and his gang has decreased the amount of
violence in the past couple of months. He was a gruesome maniac that was responsible for much of the violence.
About the numbers.
Arrowhead's Numbers
Murders in Tijuana
1/1/2010 through 3/14/2010 = 192 = 2.63 murders per day (1)
1/1/2009 through 12/16/2009 = 603 = 1.72 murders per day (2)
1/1/2008 through 12/31/2008 = 844 = 2.31 murders per day (2)
There's a bit of "apples and oranges" in the above numbers. Be careful not to apply the 2.63 murders per day rate for the whole of 2010. El Teo was
captured mid January and January was a bloody month.
The way things are going the average per day murder rate for 2010 will be less than 2009 as Jesse's number indicate:
Jesse's Numbers
January: 99 murders
February: 45
March (as of the 15th): 8
And the 2009 rate is less than 2008. That's a good trend.
Also remember that for probably 99% of the murders it is Mexicans killing Mexicans, mostly narcos killing narcos with a much smaller but still most
unfortunte number of cops being killed.
While there have been some non-combatants killed in TJ, again almost exclusively Mexicans, I think the number of American tourists and residents that
have been killed/robbed is very close to what it would be without the drug war.
I'm optimistic.
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DENNIS
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My observation was that there are no blacks in Mexico. That's not racist. It's just being observant. |
Not many on this side, for sure. Over on the Carribean side, there's lots of them.
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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
There's a bit of "apples and oranges" in the above numbers. Be careful not to apply the 2.63 murders per day rate for the whole of 2010. El Teo was
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Oh? Really? Jesse just posted a link to an article in Milenio that says, according to the general in charge of TJ, that January and the first half of
February were down 70% from December,2009. So January murders were either down or up, depending upon whether one beleives you or Jesse?
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And the 2009 rate is less than 2008. That's a good trend. |
And the 2010 rate is more than 2009. That's BAD trend, right?
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Also remember that for probably 99% of the murders it is Mexicans killing Mexicans. |
OK, I'll remember that, as long as you remember that 99% of the people in Mexico are Mexicans. 
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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arrowhead
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No soy por ni contra apatía.
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