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Gypsy Jan
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Dennis, in Answer to Your Question
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
"Baja is a bad place, yada, yada...you are in deep doo-doo if you go there."
Is Baja a bad place? You can ask me. |
Jan..tell us more about your Rotty. Does the security it gives you ever enter into the equation?
Let's support Baja and promote cautious tourism, but let's not lose sight of the fact that there is a dangerous criminal enterprise in our midst.
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Yes. Not by design, but by happenstance. We did not set out to provide ourselves with four-legged security; it just turned out that way. And they
DO provide security. Cesar Milan refers to the Rottweiler and Pit Bull breed as "gladiators". He has stated that he can leave home on his many trips
and not worry, because he knows that his wife and children will be safe.
That being said, these breeds are not backyard dogs. They need to be socialized and trained so that they know and accept their place and role in the
household. Many people have brought in to their homes these kind of dogs, but they neglected to learn about the breed and to pay attention to the
fact that these dogs don't come equipped with automatic operating instructions.
The Rottweiler has an aloof, dominant nature. They are Number 9 on the Dog IQ Most Intelligent list. They are not a first time owner's type of dog.
If the owner is not the pack leader, the Rottweiler will take things into his paws and make decisions on his own.
OK, end of long-winded reply. Let's get back to the fun and nonsense 
[Edited on 3-20-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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woody with a view
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yes, now they are painted mostly white.
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Perhaps Not
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rarely see green angels anymore. hopefully if i need 'em they'll show! |
I think they changed the color of their trucks for political reason. |
Over the years, I have observed a diminished presence of the Green Angels on Mex 1. My personal take is that with the expansion of cell phone service,
those folks were able to hang in populated places until there was a call for help. With the exception of the stretch between El Rosario and Guerrero
Negro, There is cell service mostly along the way. So, over the years, I have come to encounter their trucks more often in the towns rather than out
on the highway. That's just my take on it. and I'm hoping that the decreased presence as I drive Mex 1 is just for that reason.
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woody with a view
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is there a green angels phone number? similar to the 066?
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My son broke down at the La Canada the pools in Dec. it was the 23rd. he stopped to get the kids somes snacks. then his car would not start. he tried
the battery cables and nothing someone gave him a jump and start but stopped. he needed a battery. the guy at the store asked him when he was coming
back through he said the 25th. the guy says ok use my battery and bring it back on your way home. he told my son it was because he had kids. do you
thinkg someone in the states would do this. NO
I have had a few good helpers over the years. feel safer breaking down here than in the states.
I have always said there are 2 kinds of people in the world those that love baja and those that hate it. you can never change them. the caravans
would get here and always tell on the first day the lover and the hater. still the same ones on theway home.
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we once got a flat around 11pm on the way to a friends house in south rosarito. some guy gave us his inflated tire (lug pattern matched) and said to
drop it off when we got a new tire in the morning.!.!...!!!!!
go figure!
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
[end of long-winded reply. Let's get back to the fun and nonsense
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I would like to hear your evaluation of what else I said. Agree, or not. My points weren't made to fall by the wayside.
Didja see them, or not?
I hate being ignored. I just effing hate it.
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Gypsy Jan
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Dennis, I Answered Your Direct Question to Me
You did not ask me to comment on your preceding paragraph.
Since you are now asking, here is my humble take on the Baja situation.
According to the various news outlets and Mayor Torres' recent PR releases, the violence in Rosarito is down sharply - they cite statistics. How good
those statistics are and how they are skewed for self-serving purposes is anybody's guess.
The FBI keeps statistics on violence prone areas. Detroit and DC are on the top of the list, with South Central LA jockeying for a higher position.
Tijuana was ninth the last time I looked and Rosarito and Ensenada were nowhere on the radar, but I wasn't looking that hard.
No place is perfect and if you want to be a tourist, instead of a traveler, then get an experienced nanny organization to take care of your itinerary.
Several ears ago, a European couple bought a property next to us in Newport Beach. They leveled the historic house (built by a former CEO of Bank of
America) and rebuilt a very attractive, but very secure building with quick-drop metal shutters, security cameras on every side and metal-gated
underground parking. This is a normal feature for wealthy homes in France and throughout other wealthy areas of Europe.
There was much hand-wringing and wailing from the locals, but when a sophisticated second- story burglar ring moved through the neighborhood a few
months later, taking advantage of the open doors on the upper balconies of the homes, all the complaining stopped.
Once again, a long-winded reply to a question from you, but I say, know where you go. Carefree doesn't exist, but you can create the illusion of it
if you do the homework.
EDIT TO ADD ADDITIONAL INFO: I just remembered that, during that same period of time, there were roving gangs of car thieves in our neighborhood -
the local cops said that the Chief of Police and other high officials in Tijuana would write out descriptions of vehicles they wanted and that the
orders wwere filled by the eager up-and-coming ones.
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“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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Thanks, Jan..............I really didn't request a review of what Torres said. I asked your opinion of what I said.
Diddja read it? It's OK if you didn't. I doubt anyone else did either.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
"Baja is a bad place, yada, yada...you are in deep doo-doo if you go there."
Is Baja a bad place? You can ask me. |
Let's say, for the sake of conversation, that Baja is unanimously declared safe for tourists. The crime statistics and death in the streets still
don't add to the vacation ambiance. If three people each week were brutaly murdered in Disneyland, would you still think it was the happiest place on
earth? I doubt it. I'll bet you wouldn't even go there.
Vacations are supposed to be fun and carefree. Driving through military roadblocks with everybody carrying bigass automatic weapons is far from that.
I know the Army is there for our safety, but it's not a decoration. It's a necessity.
Baja is a war-zone. That can't be denied if your mind is in the real world.
Jan..tell us more about your Rotty. Does the security it gives you ever enter into the equation?
Let's support Baja and promote cautious tourism, but let's not lose sight of the fact that there is a dangerous criminal enterprise in our midst.
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Here it is again. Reeeeed it and tell me what you think of what I said. Not Torres or Ramos or you....what I said.
Evaluate that.
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Gypsy Jan
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Dennis, I Really Did Read What You Wrote
Rosarito is not Fantasyland, but Disneyland has killed its fair share of tourists over the years - in gruesome ways, although they would like to
pretend it hasn't.
Also, in past years, Disneyland and Magic Mountain had severe problems with gangs using the venues as meet-greet-drug deal places. Good luck with
finding out how they handled the problems, they have much better PR control of the media.
Declaring Rosarito a tourist-safe zone? Ehh, just PR speak. Military checkpoints - the kids are polite and doing their job. I like them, they have
dogs, too. Yesterday, we asked the guys at Rosarito where the dog was, they replied that he was eating. One other soldier piped up to brag that the
dog could scent drugs AND guns! I am a bit skeptical of that claim, but I love that they are proud of their working dog.
[Edited on 3-21-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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DENNIS
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Thanks, Jan. Disneyland was supposed to be a metaphore.
I'm going back to Sharkey's where I'm understood. It comes with the price of the drink. 
[Edited on 3-21-2010 by DENNIS]
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Gypsy Jan
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Dennis, If I Missed Your Point
I apologize.
GJ
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Ok, my 2 cents, there are good mexicans and good americans as much as there are equal bad of both, however one needs to adjust to ones environment
according to where you are. The military/Police inspections in Baja, yes more so than on the 5, 805, BUT they are doing their jobs for very little
pay. Overall, if one does have a break down here you are more likely to have a good samaritan stop to assist than in the states and the Mexican people
are more trusting than the Americans. JMHO................
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
I apologize.
GJ |
Never a need for that with us. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
"Baja is a bad place, yada, yada...you are in deep doo-doo if you go there."
Is Baja a bad place? You can ask me. |
Let's say, for the sake of conversation, that Baja is unanimously declared safe for tourists. The crime statistics and death in the streets still
don't add to the vacation ambiance. If three people each week were brutaly murdered in Disneyland, would you still think it was the happiest place on
earth? I doubt it. I'll bet you wouldn't even go there.
Vacations are supposed to be fun and carefree. Driving through military roadblocks with everybody carrying bigass automatic weapons is far from that.
I know the Army is there for our safety, but it's not a decoration. It's a necessity.
Baja is a war-zone. That can't be denied if your mind is in the real world.
Jan..tell us more about your Rotty. Does the security it gives you ever enter into the equation?
Let's support Baja and promote cautious tourism, but let's not lose sight of the fact that there is a dangerous criminal enterprise in our midst.
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Dennis, I hate to say it - but get a life. Jim
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by noproblemo2
there are good mexicans and good americans |
If you arn't prepared to offer proof to that point, you should retract it. 
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Hmmmmmmmm, well we have you vs Gypsy Jan... Calderon vs the cartels...
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegejim
Dennis, I hate to say it - but get a life. Jim |
Thanks, Jim. Nice thought. Accept one of mine...Bite Me.
If you have issues with me, bring them up so we can discuss them. In the future, keep your crap to yourself if you can't express your thoughts.
I won't put with your sht or anybody else's here if they can't explain themselves.
So...screw you untill further notice....which I would assue would come from you if you have the inclination.
If not, screw you again.
[Edited on 3-21-2010 by DENNIS]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by noproblemo2
Hmmmmmmmm, well we have you vs Gypsy Jan... Calderon vs the cartels... |
Oh Gawd.... you are so lost with this issue. Go over to TalkBaja and play in the sand. It's a safe environment.
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