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wessongroup
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toneart ..... the BA... it's been a long while.. but, most certainly remember that one..
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Regarding cultural differences - there must be many stories travelers have. Here is mine. I boarded a bus in Yugoslavia wearing sandals over
sock-covered feet. Sitting in my seat I could hear their conversation over my attire. "Look at what that crazy American is wearing. Have you ever seen
such a thing?". And on and on it went.
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Socks are Never acceptable with sandals ...
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I boarded a bus in Yugoslavia wearing sandals over sock-covered feet. Sitting in my seat I could hear their conversation over my attire. "Look at what
that crazy American is wearing. Have you ever seen such a thing?". And on and on it went. |
only a total dork wears socks with sandals, in any decade ever there has never been anywhere appropriate for men to wear socks with sandals in
public
the yugos were totally right to ridicule such attire
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
On the flip sign of that experience I discovered that women didn't shave their legs in Europe on that trip. Have you ever seen a woman with hairy
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yes, known some very sexy women with unshaved legs and pits 
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wessongroup
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Oh my God, sandal police !!!
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Osprey hit it on the nail...again. This subject is very interesting. Any of you who know Juan know that he will NOT go out to a restaurant with
tourists...I could never figure out why...we get invited out to eat frequently and being of canadian descent, I'm always up for a free meal
It is as Osprey says...mexicanos who rub shoulders with gringos are sometimes considered barberos(kind of like a leech or brown noser) and it's not
cool to be showing off...which is how it might be perceived by the workers in the joint. I hear lots of nasty comments about locals who try to hang
around gringos...a word I hear all day every day here.
It is such a fascinating culture with so many layers, subtleties and idiosyncracies(sp) that sometimes it's hard to figure out what the hell is going
on in their heads and hearts.
Ya sure gotta be careful as one can royally screw up so easily.
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Since we are being so graphic and "honest" here-------I almost always wear socks with sandals-----------and I almost always wear sandles, even to a
restaurant in the evening. Has nothing to do with "style" or "dorkyness" etc.--------my feet sweat, always have, and I ruin sandles fast if I don't
wear socks. Also, no socks result in my feet drying out fast, and I end up with splits in my skin, and then they bleed which really IS gross!!! not
to mention dorky.
So, you just never know--------some folks have real reasons for doing what they do.
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Since we are being so graphic and "honest" here-------I almost always wear socks with sandals-----------and I almost always wear sandles, even to a
restaurant in the evening. Has nothing to do with "style" or "dorkyness" etc.--------my feet sweat, always have, and I ruin sandles fast if I don't
wear socks. Also, no socks result in my feet drying out fast, and I end up with splits in my skin, and then they bleed which really IS gross!!! not
to mention dorky.
Barry |
TMI 
Get a pedicure!
Put on some shoes!
Like infants, old people are allowed to lose control of their bodies and orifices,... perhaps an exception for rule that men sshould not wear socks
with sandals
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Since we are being so graphic and "honest" here-------I almost always wear socks with sandals-----------and I almost always wear sandles, even to a
restaurant in the evening.
Barry |
The rule is, socks with sandals are OK if long pants are worn. Socks, sandals and shorts are only permitted with a clean terrycloth pool ensemble and
a straw hat.
Jeeeezo...ain't you guys ever been to the plunge in East LA?
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Fashion Crimes:
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Barry A.
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lookin gooooood!!!!! Espescially the pic of the hairly legs with the handsome sandals------------could be me!!!
Barry
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Ok, guess the socks and sandles as well as plaid Burmuda shorts are dorky. I thought they were cool in the 50's, but I was but a pup then. I wonder if
they will ever come back, seems like all the fashions recycle.
I never in my wildest thought I would get schooled by nomads on fashion.....go figure!?
Iflyfishinsocksandsandlestillmockedoutoftheriver
[Edited on 5-2-2010 by Iflyfish]
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I dont know. For some reason whenever I think of sandals I think of Victor Mature.
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Barry A.
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Victor Mature??? Me too. I feel like Samson when I wear my sandals!!!! I still wear my Harachies (sp?) too-------love my Harachies, but have to
wear socks with them.
All this is cross-culture information, and very relavant to this thread.
Barry
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Caring about what other people think?
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Let's see. Juan cares about what strangers think of him hanging with ''tourists.'' Not PC appearing to have white folks as friends?
Not accepting small minded, ignorant prejudices is not accepting of the culture down South?
Guess everyone is entitled to an opinion.
It's not socks with sandals -- it's black socks that are objectionable with sandals -- it's the ''I just stepped off the boat'' look that doesn't
blend in except in tourist towns.
Just looks like more judgment from here.
[Edited on 5-3-2010 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Osprey hit it on the nail...again. This subject is very interesting. Any of you who know Juan know that he will NOT go out to a restaurant with
tourists...I could never figure out why...we get invited out to eat frequently and being of canadian descent, I'm always up for a free meal
It is as Osprey says...mexicanos who rub shoulders with gringos are sometimes considered barberos(kind of like a leech or brown noser) and it's not
cool to be showing off...which is how it might be perceived by the workers in the joint. I hear lots of nasty comments about locals who try to hang
around gringos...a word I hear all day every day here.
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Shari,
I am a little confused and concerned. From what I read in your post is that the locals around here with whom we have become friends are in danger of
being considered barberos?
We do know of some locals who wish all the Canadians and norteamericanos would go away, but your post is concerning.
Maybe we need to talk with a few of our friends---we certainly do not want to put anyone in a position of being called a barbero because they are
friends with us.
And the way you said you hear gringos all day long sounds like many or most of the people here dislike the Canadians and norteamericanos----doesn't
sound like a friendly place to have home???
Sounds like we should not risk making friends with the locals???
Confusing.........
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The other evening mrsfish and i were out to dinner, local restaurant, did not notice mayor of town sitting at next table till he and wife pulled their
table over to ours. A bit cheaky on his part but affable fellow and enjoyed our dinner. When leaving I noticed a lot of people looking at us,
wondering who we were, commenting behind their hands to eachother. My point is that people notice when we are hanging out with people of status,
celebrity or who are just different than most and have opinions about that including jealousy which can lead to contempt. This has also happened when
we have dined with my transvestite friend. Just saying.
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Friends?
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I am a little confused and concerned. From what I read in your post is that the locals around here with whom we have become friends
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Given Shari's comments, how would you know? 
It's been my experience that true friends stand up for each other...Regardless of public opinion.
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Hola, when i have visited mexican friends in another small town and i was hungry, i invited the family to have lunch with me and was accepted twice
very early on. thereafter, i would always be declined.
perhaps all the information in this thread was the reason. i didn't even give it a thought that they would possibly be looked down upon by their
countrymen and friends. i'm not dressing in anything fancy, just shorts, sandals and a t-shirt, nothing designer, just laid back and i'm not looking
to get my behind kissed. it may not be looked at as patronizing, perhaps jealousy or noncomplimentary envy ?
this friendship commenced in 2006 and i do still visit them regularly and they are very poor but do have a little ranch on the outskirts of town.
if that is the case, myself and yourselves should continue to attempt to break this unsocial ( to me ) behavior in the name of friendship. barriers
can come down !
over the past 30 years or so, myself and friends have come down to fish and were advised to NOT overtip as it would ruin it of the people that follow.
it seems as though the expectation of bigger tips has come into fruition and I may be the one behind the times ! yes, i do know how to LUMP it !
THANK YOU,
BIEN SALUD, DA RAT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJA.DESERT.RAT
over the past 30 years or so, myself and friends have come down to fish and were advised to NOT overtip as it would ruin it of the people that follow.
it seems as though the expectation of bigger tips has come into fruition and I may be the one behind the times ! yes, i do know how to LUMP it !
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there is no such thing as tipping too much. how would tipping too much ruiin it? perhaps you meant it would ruin it for the tight wads?
over time everything works out to the mean, and the mean is composed of a mix of generous people, middle of the road people, and tight wads
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