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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 09:54 AM


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there will only be 100,000 people in the other place.


What a smooth way to get in a plug for Anthony's. Is their stock in your portfolio, Diane? :lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 10:15 AM


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there will only be 100,000 people in the other place.


What a smooth way to get in a plug for Anthony's. Is their stock in your portfolio, Diane? :lol::lol:


They sell stock? Do give me the symbol and I'm in. Got to love a business going strong. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 10:35 AM


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This interpretation works for me. (Excerpt)

Much has been written about the meaning of poverty. What we find through our work and frequent visits to poor communities is that poverty:

* deprives people of their security and well-being;
* deprives people not only of safe water and adequate food, clothing and shelter, but also education and healthcare;
* takes away people’s rights, and their freedom, dignity and peace of mind;
* puts people's lives in danger and robs them of their future.

Of course, poverty is not just about physical deprivation, it is also about lack of opportunity and loss of hope (poverty of spirit) -- see what we say about this in relation to countries in Eastern Europe.

The Scottish Poverty Information Unit argues that: "Poverty is defined relative to the standards of living in a society at a specific time. People live in poverty when they are denied an income sufficient for their material needs and when these circumstances exclude them from taking part in activities which are an accepted part of daily life in that society."
Who is poorer, an American who has a 500k mortgage on a house worth 250k or a Mexican who owns a shack unencumbered ?
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 10:41 AM


That's easy-----the Mexican is far and away ahead of the guy with the mortgage---------the mortgage guy is way into negative territory, possibly never to recover-------what WAS he thinking??

When I ask for financial advice, it is the Mexican I am consulting with. :lol:

$500 mortgage------what folly!!!!

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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 10:56 AM


:light::light::light:



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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 11:12 AM


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:light::light::light:


Guess someone should go and inform all the people who live off the Tijuana or Mexico City dumps (and many others) that because they have free and clear squatter's rights to their cardboard shacks, they are not poor, in fact they are very lucky??




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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 11:23 AM


Poor?:?: Doesn't matter what side of the border you call home, nobody has to tell you whether or not you're poor.:no: It's a reality that the posters on this board can debate, discuss and contemplate, but they can't really identify with.
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 11:27 AM
Having Nothing but the Best


I've always heard that "The Best Things in Life are Free".

Isn't that a Song ?

Well, anyway, given that the poor should be as happy as anyone else. Happier ?

As I've often heard ( and experienced ), having money brings its own set of problems. The poor are better off not having to make all of those money-related decisions.

Another Homily (which I'm Sure is true) is that "People will do the Right Thing" when they see inequality. So, it will all work out.

"Everythang's Gonna be All Right".

Don't worry. Be Happy. Leave MY Money alone.
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 11:39 AM


I think I can identify with being poor, as a kid, picking fruit in Calif. living in shacks, tents, under bridges 5 of us work all week buy groceries, see a movie then back to work. I think if you have never had the good life it doesn't bother its when you have had the good life and either lost it or had it taken away that you can have the poor feeling.



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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 11:50 AM


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I think if you have never had the good life it doesn't bother its when you have had the good life and either lost it or had it taken away that you can have the poor feeling.


You got it, Wiley. "Poor" is a relative term. If we didn't have poor, we wouldn't have "Rich."
The commies tried to achieve that balance, but it didn't work.
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 11:57 AM


comitan, Yea, most of us have our own "being poor" experiences.:D It wasn't all bad was it?:?: Some of the best times and some of the worst times.:D Being poor is tuff, but being rich, then being poor has got to be very hard to handle.:D
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 12:39 PM


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being rich, then being poor has got to be very hard to handle.:D


It would be if you hadn't already bought three of everything. Poor planning in such a volatile economy. :lol:
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 12:47 PM


Actually very pleasant memories, I'm sure most of you have never tasted a prune plum in the cool of the morning. I still remember!!!!



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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 01:02 PM


comitan, And don't ever forget.:D
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 01:22 PM


I followed a one-man hay bailer around the fields loading 120 lb bales of hay on a trailer in Owens Valley for 3 summers in a row while in high school-------never felt better in my life!!! I certainly did not have a bunch of money, but boy did I feel good!!!

Later in my early 20's I worked highway bridge construction as a day laborer for 3 years to get enough money together to return to college-----I had a wife and 2 kids, and my wife had no income. It worked, we saved, and I finished College---------it was all fun!

I never "felt" poor (strapped, yes, but not poor), and I don't feel "rich" now (even tho by some standards I am)-------everything is relative, and how you "look" at it.

Never been on unemployment, and in fact never was unemployed after College except for 2 weeks between jobs. I had dozens of jobs during that time tho-------never could figure out what I wanted to do until the Natl. Park Service Ranger idea came along-----best decision of my life, but boy were we poor as a Ranger. :lol:

Oh well, life is a series of trade-offs. :yes:

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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 01:29 PM


I think Dennis got it right when he referred to "poor" as a relative term. Many of us have made do with much less at some time in our lives. And at the same time, may well never had considered ourselves to be poor. However, I'm guessing that we can all agree that hungry children and homeless families represent a step beyond most of our experiences.
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 01:42 PM


Have to tell you a story. We have a lot of do gooders in La Paz, one of them & I went to a "poor" area of La Paz I was donating a mattress to an old woman that was sleeping on the ground. This poor family who had a husky looking father, had no work so I offered to drive to his place the next morning 15Miles and take him to my place to work, great until the next morning when I arrived he was not there he walked into town, I guess to get out of work now do you suppose that is why they where poor. And do you still try to help someone like this.?



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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 01:47 PM


Reminds me of the amazing numbers of folks pushing shopping carts filled with their belongings that I see around town. Sadly, many of those folks actually choose that life. I've been at a local liquor store and watched one of these guys come in and buy a couple of tall boys and a cigar, leave and head off pushing his cart. Go figure!
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 01:51 PM


My whole family (12 or 13 of us I think) followed the circus, lived off the hot dog sticks. We all have bad teeth now (the ones that lived).
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[*] posted on 5-17-2010 at 02:04 PM


Osprey. :biggrin: Now they be a story or two there and you are a teller of stories. Please share one or two.:D Will be gratified and thankful.:biggrin:
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