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[*] posted on 5-25-2010 at 05:02 PM


PCAS has an order form for the Quarterly that can be printed, copies are $l0 ($20 for double issues) plus postage.



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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 07:32 AM


Hmmm - read the Ritter article and saw the illustrations. I don't don't see anything similar to what I found about 15 mi. from Bahia Asuncion (inland).

In the Overstreet arrowhead guide, I see something similar from the Truxton, Apache County, AZ area (developmental phase 1500-1000 BP). Has anyone found a similar style in Baja?

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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 10:38 AM


If I remember correctly, there's a chart that organizes the different shapes of projectile points in Emil Haury's book on Ventana Cave.

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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 11:54 AM


Many of the older locals I know in the Mulege area have large point collections..arrowheads, spear & lance point, cutters, fishhooks, fishpoints, etc. One rancho senora has over 300 in her displays.

The Mulege valley and river estuary areas are a great place to go hiking.




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[*] posted on 5-26-2010 at 10:22 PM


You've got a nice one, wilderone. The time involved in making a point as detailed as that is amazing. But then, on long nights with just a campfire for light, and no computer to distract you, one may become indifferent to time.



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[*] posted on 5-27-2010 at 07:34 AM


the Ritter article was very interesting as the study was from this area...loved the 3 sisters name for laguna ojo de liebre, laguna GN and laguna manuela. Sounds like our coastal hunters were more after marine life than game...very enlightening..thanks so much for the link...wish Ritter would write a book!



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[*] posted on 5-27-2010 at 07:47 AM


"But a consensus is emerging that some humans arrived thousands of years earlier, even if scientists disagree on just how much earlier. And several agreed that if the Minnesota objects do turn out to be 13,000- to 15,000-year-old tools, they'd be among the oldest human artifacts ever found in North America."

There have many artifacts found in North America which suggest to some that humankind lived here much earlier than the 13,000 years or so now in agreement. Scientists though are fearful of sticking their necks out because their reputations are their bread and butter. Plenty of discoveries to ponder upon:

North of Mexico City—1920’s—remains of buried city with pottery and engraved tablets found 38 feet below surface—50,000 years old

Near the Ohio River north of Cincinnati—1826—buried tree trunk showing signs of ax marks, and embedded oxidized wedge of iron, from a well dug to 54 feet deep—50,000 to 75,000 years old

Santa Ana River Valley, Ventura County, California—1888—a dozen cogged stone wheels averaging 6.5 inches in diameter—estimated 60,000 years old

Near Montauk, Long Island, New York—1990—large machine-like components covered with undecipherable glyphs, excavated from glacial morainal till—estimated 65,000 years old

Sheguaiandah, Manitoulin Island in northern Lake Huron—1952—advanced stone tools, found in glacial deposits—65,000 to 125,000 years old

Texas Street, San Diego, California—1950 to 1953—hearth and stone tools dug up—between 80,000 and 90,000 years old

Crowley’s Ridge, Arkansas—1921—carved stone head with metal ornaments and other stone artifacts—175,000 years old

and there are others as well.
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[*] posted on 5-27-2010 at 08:35 AM


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the Ritter article was very interesting as the study was from this area...loved the 3 sisters name for laguna ojo de liebre, laguna GN and laguna manuela. Sounds like our coastal hunters were more after marine life than game...very enlightening..thanks so much for the link...wish Ritter would write a book!


Shari------------I took the liberty to cut & paste your last post and sent it to Dr. Ritter via an e-mail----he lives just down the street from me. We will see if it gets any results. :spingrin: Dr. Ritter is not a NOMAD, but I did alert him to this thread--------he is a very "private person" so doubt that he would ever "post", tho.

We will see. He may shoot me for bringing him into this. :lol:

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[*] posted on 5-27-2010 at 09:03 AM


barry, thanks for risking your life in the name of science...you are a gentleman and a scholar...yesterday I looked at the obsidian chips we found on our walk in a very new light with new knowledge....exciting!



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