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Mexicorn
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
Tonight's vino choice..I like this zinfandel from LA Cetto. Buy them at Saul's Market, Mulege for 95 pesos. Not bad at all. |
Nice choice! Fellow Nomad!
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The Gull
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Merlot? Is that what you call wine just before it turns into vinegar?
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No, you call it merlot AFTER it turns. Before, you call it two buck chuck.
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toneart
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Confirming
Pampano's choice of L.A. Cetto Zinfindel 
Regarding how many bottles you can bring into Mexico, has anybody ever had to unload everything you have packed away upon crossing?
If you should be so unfortunate, at $2.00 per (Chuck), you could just say "oops" and know some official may be having an enjoyable meal that evening.
Your forfeiture will have been built in and paid for in the many previous trips that you had gotten away with it. 
One favorite wine that I buy regularly is Meridian; Chardonnay, Cabernet or Merlot. They are always on sale in many places. Safeway has them on sale
for $5.99/bottle or $5.45 if you buy it by the case. It is as good as just about any $20.00 bottle of wine. Of course, we all may differ in opinions
about wine. Whatever floats your boat (or sinks it  ) is the best determinant.
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capt. mike
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luv the Cetto  ....and the nebiolo (sp?) along with their zins.
the best "you're busted" story of all time was when a well known owner of a boutique winery in NORCAL, bottles typ in the $75 and up range, got caught
with a large stock while clearing in at Mexicali in his turbo twin.
It was said he had been stocking his very nice baja digs with impunity for years - this time they confiscated all of it - several CASES! worth a few
thousand easily.
he was so peeed still after a 90 minute flight to Mulege he would not even engage in friendly banter on the ramp. I recognized him from an article
Flying Mag did a few years prior about winery owners who were also aviation nuts and he was one of the 5 or so vintner/pilots profiled.
i won't say who he is here but a few concepcion regulars know whom i'm talking about. i never have engaged him much while i am around, guess he
doesn't frequent the same dives as me!! but wow his plane is sweet!!
ought to be, they cost $3 MM 
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Iflyfish
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Columbia Crest, wine of the year, very reasonable and very good. Excellent, dependable van ordinaire. I once purchased two bottles of 2buck chuck,
laid them down, picked one out of the cellar six months later and it was stunning, easily a $25 bottle of Cab. Went back to TJ and purchased a case.
First drink spit out as soon as it hit my lips, swill of the rankest order. In a huff I took it back, including the bottle I had just opened. I was
then told how it is made, dregs of vintages, some great and some horrible, you throw the dice vintage to vintage. Life is too short to drink bad wine.
Iflyfishwithbottlesofcolumbiacrestsyrahandchardinbothhandsanddroppedmyrod.
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capt. mike
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yeah - you can't even call it "vintage" because it is made of grouped batched leftovers sold on the spot market. i won't wager on any of it anymore -
way too risky even at $3 when even the best is just ok.
we landed at Columbia Crest's private airport on our 1st northwest winery tours trip of WA and OR states. treated like kings and given an escorted
tour - all because we had the courtesy to all 1st and request permission to come in on our way up the Columbia river enroute to walla walla then
Yakima valley before Seattle. 4 great days of wine country touring tasting and a lot of buying.
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Pompano
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
luv the Cetto ....and the nebiolo (sp?) along with their zins.....
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"Nebbiolo", Mike...and one of my favorites, too.
p.s. we also drink the other wine per the airplane anecdote, a neighbor, and it is simply 'finest kind' as my Maine buddy would say.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Iflyfish
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I have stayed away from Mexican wines, never had one I really liked, prefer Chilean and Argentinean, but will now try the L.A. Cetto, Baja Norte ought
to be good climate and soil for these very big wines. What is the alcohol content? Alcohol content often portends the amount of fruit. Wine have lots
of fruit sugar to go above 12%, I like mine in the 13.5-14.5 range because I can predict a big mouth full of concentrated fruit at those levels of
alcohol.
Love your wine boy! One day I will talk with him and tell him stories of outragious wines, big fish and Baja tales to be told around a good vintage.
Iflyfish
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Udo
I'm on it, Mexicorn!
And let's see how bajabound2005 likes it. |
bajabound2005 does not drink anything made from thr grapes of wrafth
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Columbia Crest, wine of the year, very reasonable and very good. Excellent, dependable van ordinaire. I once purchased two bottles of 2buck chuck,
laid them down, picked one out of the cellar six months later and it was stunning, easily a $25 bottle of Cab. Went back to TJ and purchased a case.
First drink spit out as soon as it hit my lips, swill of the rankest order. In a huff I took it back, including the bottle I had just opened. I was
then told how it is made, dregs of vintages, some great and some horrible, you throw the dice vintage to vintage. Life is too short to drink bad wine.
Iflyfishwithbottlesofcolumbiacrestsyrahandchardinbothhandsanddroppedmyrod. |
I have never been a fan of Columbia Crest, but then it had never occurred to me to age it in a cellar. I will try it. Is the Cab vintage you put away
still on the market?
"Iflyfishwithbottlesofcolumbiacrestsyrahandchardinbothhandsanddroppedmyrod." Women have complained about this stated condition forever!
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Iflyfish
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Tone,
Columbia Crest '05 Cab Reserve won wine of the year from one of the major wine pubs. It too varies by year, however is generally consistant and I find
the lower end vintages are only slightly less quality than the higher end ones.
What wine one enjoys is of course a matter of taste, so what gooses one gander may not do so for another.......hm....may need to redo that
metaphor.....but you understand what I mean.
I don't drink a lot of Columbia Crest, an Eastern Washington State wine, because I live in the Willamette Valley where I have access to great Pinot
Noir and Pinot Gris as well as excellent California wines. I do however recommend it as a high quality van ordinaire or for those who are set on a low
price point.
I generally don't age wines like Columbia Crest, I use an aerator and that accomplishes all the aging that that wine requires. By the way, if you have
not invested in an aerator I would highly recommend that you do so.
Iflyfishaeratorinhand.
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capt. mike
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hahahaha
reminds me of that scene in The Jerk where Martin's character insisted that the waiter return the bottle proffered and come back with some FRESH
wine!!
still cracks me up.
that and the snails on her plate....
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Tone,
"What wine one enjoys is of course a matter of taste, so what gooses one gander may not do so for another.......hm....may need to redo that
metaphor.....but you understand what I mean."
AWK!
"By the way, if you have not invested in an aerator I would highly recommend that you do so."
Been meaning to get one. Just returned from Baja so will pick one up. Thanks.
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Mexicorn
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I have BEAN enjoying the Nebbiolo for quite some time now. But It's a little pricey for my taste. Did I mention that the guy who runs the La Cava
Boutique just north of Ensenada will give you a 10% discount if you kiss his snooty rear end and tell him your local?
Speak Spanish when in his presence English is so looked down upon by the elite of his caliber!
Christ He's got himself fooled into believing his Mexican Royality.
Whatasnob!
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El Jefe
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OK, now this is a great subject. Down here at the tip it gets pretty hot in the summer as you all know. We don't want to invest in a wine refer since
we are already running two regular refers and don't want to use more power from the solar system. So, we have been storing the reds in the
refrigerator along with the whites. Have to bring them out a little while before drinking, but they seem OK once they get half way to room temp.
Are we damaging the reds? Will the wine police arrest us? None of the wine is expensive, mostly Argentine and Chilean, so maybe who cares?
No b-tchin\' in the Baja.
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You are likely not damaging your reds in the reefer as long as you are not seeking to keep them there a long time. But you are retarding any
additional aging development. Just try and keep them in the least cold area of the refrig. If you expect to keep them refrigerated more than two-
three months, you may actually do harm.
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Without getting too off-track here, I've been experimenting with box wines as they travel/pack/store so easily. The 'better' quality comes in 3 liter
boxes, same as 4 standard bottles, and retails in the $15-$20 range. They tend to run in the 'easy drinking' category but really, isn't that what
we're doing? Bandit also makes a 1 liter 'round milk carton' that works well on a boat or anywhere glass can be an issue. Again, we're talking Pinot
Grigio/Merlot here.
I find the problem with the box wines is that you can not keep track of the quantity you're drinking until you wake up face down on the beach with the
moon way different than you thought it should be and some coyote licking your face.
http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/drinking/wine/top5_...
Don't turn your nose up a these.
edit for spelin'
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
Without getting too off-track here, I've been experimenting with box wines as they travel/pack/store so easily. The 'better' quality comes in 3 liter
boxes, same as 4 standard bottles, and retails in the $15-$20 range. They tend to run in the 'easy drinking' category but really, isn't that what
we're doing? Bandit also makes a 1 liter 'round milk carton' that works well on a boat or anywhere glass can be an issue. Again, we're talking Pinot
Gridio/Merlot here.
I find the problem with the box wines is that you can not keep track of the quantity you're drinking until you wake up face down on the beach with the
moon way different than you thought it should be and some coyote licking your face.
http://www.epicurious.com/articlesguides/drinking/wine/top5_...
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I have heard some of these are drinkable. Do you have any idea of shelf life after the box is opened? It may not work for me, as I only drink two
glasses/evening with meals (both reds and whites) , but I am always up for trying a Nomad's suggestion. Thank you, Santiago.
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Santiago
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| Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
It may not work for me, as I only drink two glasses/evening with meals (both reds and whites) , but I am always up for trying a Nomad's suggestion.
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These are very common in Australia, one of the reasons is that the wine will keep longer after opening. Apparently, the bag inside shrinks so that
there is little air. I have never been able to test this as a box of wine last us about 3 days so we're no better off.
I'm just curious, just how big are your glasses?
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toneart
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Santiago,
My self-imposed limit of two glasses per evening is part of my dedication to a healthy lifestyle of discipline in many areas. Moderation is the key.
Having said that, I dislike practitioners who pontificate, so that is all I will say on the subject.
In the case of alcohol, I love wine. I often tour Napa, Sonoma and Mendocino with friends and family. I will buy a couple of bottles of those that
impressed me the most and put them away for special occasions.
At home, I pour about the same as a commercial wine bar would pour.
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