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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 08:38 AM
Immigration renewal update


Looks like if you renew in Cabo you will need a CURP number from now on. We went in last week and my wife's FM3 was ready, but they told her my FM2 application was filled out wrong and had to be resubmitted. No extra money and about what I expected anyway. Got a new NUT number and went over to Todos Santos for a couple days. The next day we check my new number online and it said to come to the office again. Two days later, on the way home, I stopped in and the notice of CURP necessity was pasted on the podium. I figured that's what I now needed but instead they had my original FM2 ready for me! Eventually it all works out.

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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 09:37 AM


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Originally posted by maspacifico
Looks like if you renew in Cabo you will need a CURP number from now on.


Pardon my ignorance on this, but don't you need to be a Mexican citizen to get a CURP?
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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 09:44 AM


CURP?
NUT?



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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 09:53 AM


It's not ignorant to ask a question you don't know the answer to yet:rolleyes:....and the answer is nope....I know at least one gringo on an FM2 who got a CURP, so apparently resident status qualifies.;)

CURP = Cedula unica de representacion personal


A personal ID number issued at birth in Mexico & retained for life.

Closest comparison would be equivalent to a US Social Security number.
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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:04 AM


I just renewed my FM3 in San Felipe under the new immigration laws and did not need a CURP. Is this just needed for the FM2?

[Edited on 7-14-2010 by grace59]




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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:12 AM


Morgaine7, my source bows to your definition & adds that you have to have FM2 or better....FM3 does not qualify for a CURP....or at least it supposedly didn't before the recent immigration changes....I'm quoting La Paz INM office interpretation....look at how smart we're all getting this morning!:lol:
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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:13 AM


This site has an explanation of how the CURP is devised:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_45b/helpdata/en/c0/264db81cc411d...

I have heard some debate about the check digit being used only if there are duplicate numbers, but I'm not sure that is reliable info.




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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:14 AM


I renewed my FM2 in June. I was not asked to provide a CURP#, but one is printed on my new card. The Immigration office in Loreto apparently obtained the number on their own initiative.
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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:26 AM


I should have copied down the notice at the desk in Cabo, but it sure seemed to say that any FM3 or FM2 renewals should get their CURP first. There is a space on my shiny new FM2 card for a CURP number, but I don't have anything in that space. Both our FM3 and FM2 cards have expiration dates on them and we've been led to believe that when they get renewed next year another card will be issued in their place. Something about the first cards to come out don't have everything on them...... And, that's all I know about it!
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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:27 AM


A CURP can be assigned at the Hacienda, Registro Civil, ISSSTE, IMSS,or any Government Service to anyone who lives in Mexico, or at least typically it can be if there are services in your Poblacion. The CURP may also be known as a Persona Fisica. It is a unique number for each person. The formula for the CURP assigned relates to your last name, second last name or first name, country of birth and date etc... So you can almost figure out what it would be... from the formula.

A CURP does correspond to your personal tax payer ID but having one doesn't mean you must pay taxes, just that you might. A Persona Moral is the number of an RFC or Registered Federal Corporation and follows a similar format.

If you forget your CURP which was assigned you can use the formula to try to remember it... it's 18 letters and numbers.

In terms of registering your cell phone to a name, in North America you are 'requested' to register your cell phone to a name or in Mexico a CURP. Its not legally required that you register your legal name or CURP. Which is why many Mexicans simply used the same CURP since they forgot their own, or do not have one.


http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clave_Única_de_Registro_de_Población_(México)]Elementos de la CURP

Los 18 elementos que componen la CURP son los siguientes:
Primera letra y la primera vocal del primer apellido. CASTRO
Primera letra del segundo apellido VARGAS
Primera letra del nombre de pila; si el primer nombre es José o María, se tomará en cuenta el segundo nombre (en caso de no tener segundo nombre se toma el unico).
Fecha de nacimiento (2 ultimos dígitos del año, 93 del mes y 9 del día de nacimiento)
Letra del sexo (H o M)
Dos letras correspondientes a la entidad de nacimiento, en el caso de extranjeros se marca como NE (Nacido Extranjero)
Primera consonante interna del primer apellido (o segunda, si el apellido empieza con consonante)
Primera consonante interna del segundo apellido (o segunda, si el segundo apellido empieza con consonante)
Primera consonante interna del nombre (o segunda, si el nombre empieza con consonante)
Dos dígitos, para evitar duplicaciones.





[Edited on 7-14-2010 by gnukid]
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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 02:54 PM
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They put a CURP on my new FM3 last month. It conforms with the last post. The guy at INM said next year a new card will be issued that is bar-coded for scanning.



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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 08:24 PM


we are renewing ours in Ensenada later this month. Report to follow.



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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 08:31 PM


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we are renewing ours in Ensenada later this month. Report to follow.


Look forward to hearing about the latest there----




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[*] posted on 7-14-2010 at 10:01 PM


Got my renewal in five days in CSL. I wish they could make it renewable every two or three years.
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