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MrBillM
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Gnu Retains the Championship ...........
............ Of Copy and Paste Pedantic Laborious Conspiratorial Edification and Instruction.
He, along with Loco and others, no doubt receives daily Encrypted Top-Level communiques from the Inner Council, has an official Elite Decoder Ring and
long ago mastered the Illuminati Secret Handshake.
No one else need attempt to compete.
I certainly won't.
One last thought regarding the 9/11 retrospective, though.
I haven't watched it nonstop today since I saw it all the first time around, BUT one thing I have noticed is that there seemed to have been a lack of
the widespread Jubilation in the Arab streets coverage that we saw back then.
Perhaps I just missed it. Anyone else see it ?
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
This is in remembrance of the thousands murdered by terrorists 9 years ago....and just that. |
Amen.
MAGA
marooons Are Governing America
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
On a certain level, it is weird. Not sure whether the US press hasn't gone after such stories, or whether there is a certain reticence on the part of
the local imams. My feeling is that for some reason, the lazy press has not gone out to find these people. This brings me to the imam behind the
Cordoba House. He has been actively outspoken on this issue. He has even worked with and for the us government. His project is not a mosque, but
rather a community center containing multiple spaces for prayer and reflection for people of all religious faiths. Not to mention it will have a gym
and basketball court. And, there has been a Muslim prayer facility right in the area since before the towers were built. I cannot be more offended
that certain hateful interest groups have coined the term "Ground Zero Mosque". It has been done to only incite those with hate or fear in their
hearts. Geez. Even closer to the actually World Trade site are a McDonald's, a Burger King and a ta ta bar. None of which, apparently besmirch the
memory of the fallen??? |
Who's the basketball court for, Obama?
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Bajajorge
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We should never forget 9/11, but we should also never forget the people that are working tirelessly to keep us safe from that not happening again. And
never forget those that are fighting and dieing in those so called peace loving Muslim countrys to also keep us safe.
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MrBillM
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Remembering WHAT motivated the Murderers
The month AFTER the 9/11 attack, 39 percent of the American People held an unfavorable opinion of Moslems.
The latest national poll shows an increase in the unfavorable to 49 percent.
It's refreshing to see that those who realize WHERE the hatred comes from is increasing.
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Hell, looks like someone should just threaten to burn the book once a month.. seems it creates all kinds of havoc in the thinking of those Moderate
Islamic folks..
See this morning from the, AP, there were two killed .. in a "protest" over the proposed burning..
Oh, yeah.. they were chanting "Death to America"... sounds pretty moderate to me... never heard that before now have we, nor the cheering people in
the streets after hearing about the Twin Towers going down in N.Y..
Wow... just wonder what would happen if .....
Sorry MrBillM.. did not read your post... above.. yes I do remember the happy faces in the streets ... of moderate Islam... rejoicing in the street
[Edited on 9-12-2010 by wessongroup]
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Skipjack Joe
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There's enough hatred on this thread to match anything overseas.
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Bajafun777
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Skipjack Joe, I think what those of us that have strong feelings about the hatred and crazy jerks that see their 72 virgins as more important than the
lives they snuff out!! Don't hate muslims but the Islamic religion preaching of the Koran/Quran clearly directs the killing of infidels, which is US
if you are not of their religion, so take it as you will.
A number of us here feel for the families losses in the Twin Towers and those that fought the brave fight that went down in a field instead of where
the terrorists wanted it to go. We will keep a close EYE and be prepared hopefully to defend ourselves. The difference with an America invasion is
that someone coming in trying to take us over by force will find too many of us are armed! Not only that but with know how of how to use our weapons,
bet your booty on that,LOL!!
Hatred, no just not accepting they love us and want our way of life to continue! Get the new energy fuel supplies going on these new invention and
natural gas, then let them all eat their SAND! Now, again I don't hate them but I damn sure do not love them either--- BURN OUR FLAG LOOSE MY
UNDERSTANDING OR ACCEPTANCE OF ANYTHING YOU HAVE TO SAY!! Take Care and Travel Safe--bajafun777
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MrBillM
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Matching Hatred ?
? Skipjack says:
" There's enough hatred on this thread to match anything overseas ".
Yeah, Sure, you Betcha.
Look at all the Violence being generated and the danger of Blood in the streets. Moslems in America are hiding in their homes afraid to walk the
streets for fear of having crazed Nomads detonate Bombs or Decapitate them on Camera for other Nomads to celebrate over.
As Alan Colmes would say, It's the Same Thing.
Crazy Dang people "musing" over burning a Koran and the other side actually burning infidels. Or, anybody else who happens to be handy.
Even that so-called "Moderate" Moslem we're paying to travel the Moslem world in our behalf said that America has to share in the blame for 9/11
having created the atmosphere.
BullScheisse.
The Islamists picked the fight, murdering thousands. It should NEVER be Forgotten and NEVER Forgiven.
[Edited on 9-12-2010 by MrBillM]
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Today is a great opportunity to look into what we know. Drop the anger and emotion pointed at innocent campers or innocent people and consider the
science.
Within a few hours they said 18 arabs led by Bin Laden did it, then later the FBI said no evidence to indite Bin Laden, the named Arabs were not
listed on flight lists nor is the any photo evidence to show them at the airport or on planes? Why?
Mohamed Atta was named the ringleader,his passport was claimed to be found in tact on the ground of WTC. Who is Atta?
We attacked Iraq and Afghanistan and now blame Muslims but didn't blame them for 911?
They say the three buildings fell down due to two being hit by a planes and the fires, but Building 7 wasn't hit by a plane and had little fire?
Never in history has any steel building fell due to fire, nor do buildings fall within their own footprint at freefall.
6 of the 911 Commission members have asked for a investigation as they feel their investigation was limited and failed to answer questions about what
happened.
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sanquintinsince73
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Man, this thread went south in a heartbeat. Overall I think that the memories of those that perished were honored by each of us in our way. I did
watch the 9/11 specials all day and so did my young ones. It was important for me to have Louis & Leah (9 & 6) watch this on television so
that they'll understand that there are evil people in this world and that the ultimate goal of Islam is to be the true and only world religion.
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Bajafun777
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gnukid, Where did you get such B.S. from?? In the first few hours after the Twin Towers a lot of misinformation came out and apparently you still are
using it. It is what it is and yes the nuts named did it and yes we fell short on it to allow it to happen. Take Care & Travel Safe
bajafun777
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RIP 9/1/11 victims. Your needless deaths will be avenged. If that's a highjack, so be it.
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Tautophony Sheesh, a minute ago this thread was titled "chocolate chip
cookies"....(no, I won't repeat that)
As a Canadian witnessing the events of 9=11 on tv, I shared the horror and disbelief....and have been traumatized as a have many of you.
I am not convinced that all is as has been presented....and doubt the truth about events of that day will come to light for some time...
Response was poorly handled and has only deepened the wound of difference...
Gnu presented info that must be considered....don't shoot the messenger just because you can't wrap your mind around the message.
Oh, where are the cookies?
Darn, I did repeat myself
[Edited on 9-13-2010 by motoged]
Don't believe everything you think....
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I will never forget this horrific incident as long as I live. On 9/10/2001 I flew into SeaTac Airport on my way to do an investigation in some small
little town in Washington State. The following day while interviewing a person at their home, suddenly the television that had been on some channel
began breaking the news of the tragedy. Over several hours while I was interviewing people at several different homes all of the televisions were
tuned to the destruction.
I remember how sick I felt knowing that some terrorist group could get into our country and cause so such devastation. I ended up being stranded a few
days until they cleared the air for flights. Even after they cleared the air, flights were still hard to arrange. I am thankful for our freedom but I
think we need to tighten it up on immigration issues so we make it much harder for people who want to kill us to get in.
This lithograph was made by the daughter of an Investigator friend of mine right after 9/11. It is very descriptive of what happened. She made forty
of them for the United Way and they went fast!
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toneart
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Pompano (Roger) is a friend. His post was not political. It was to remember the victims of 911. That fateful day was an emotional event for all of us,
regardless of our ideology. Roger has a big heart and obviously was disturbed at the way the string went south.
However, that is what happens on the Baja Nomad.  I wish it were otherwise. Such
an earth changing event, of course, triggers stream-of-consciousness, thoughts. Political opinions that cause emotional hurt are not exclusive to any
one party. They are, in my opinion, inappropriate in regards to this topic. I DO understand why Roger withdrew his initial post.
Thank you for your post, Roger!
With reverence, RIP to the victims.
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I don't believe it possible to think of so much mayhem and death without wondering why. Questioning has it's place in the grieving process. It's a
step toward closure.
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We all are and have experienced Post Traumatic Stress from this horrible incident. I am not surprised to see the outpouring of memories, grief and
anger. A horrible thing happened to all of the victims of that tragedy. We are all victims of that terrible act of terrorism.
I appreciate Pompano's posting on this topic, a simple request to remember those who died that fateful day. Those who die are often lost in the
rhetoric that follows and their loss is beyond measure.
This is a very sore wound, one that scars our collective consciousness and in many ways will never fully heal. On occasion these feelings will come up
again and we experience grief. Along with that grief comes questions, an attempt on our parts to make sense of the senseless, we try to make the thing
whole by getting our minds around it, anger that this could happen, and under it all a powerful sense of impotence and sadness, deep sadness. It is
far easier to be angry than to be sad. We all deal with our sadness differently.
Thank you Pompano for honoring those who died and to all Nomads who are trying in these posts to come to some understanding, resolve about this
horrible tragedy that has so profoundly affected us all.
God Bless America and all of us. We will never forget.
Iflyfish
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Dear Pompano, I Really, Really Heart You
With all due respect to Co-pilot, of course.
Tautophony - "Excessive repetition of the same [thing]."
"The unpleasant effect of tautophony will be readily perceived in the following sentences: 'The general ordered the captain to order the soldiers to
observe good order.'--'We went in an enormous car.' By a substitution of synonyms . . . we avoid the unpleasant repetitions in these passages, and
increase their strength: 'The general directed the captain to command the soldiers to observe good order.'--'We went in a large car.'"
(G. P. Quackenbos, Advanced Course of Composition and Rhetoric, 1889)
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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After 9-11 and the Iraq invasion, I had the opportunity to talk with many locals in Baja Sur. One thing I noticed is that they supported the
underdogs(arabs), that it was horrible that the towers came down, but that it was about time the U.S. got humbled. It kind of shocked me that they
felt this way, but it was their opinion.
Perhaps some of you might have experienced this opinion.
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