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Eli
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Mi nombre
I started to write this explantion on the Viva, Viva, Viva Mexico post and decided that it really deserves it's own space and besides, we were kind of
drifting from the orignal purpose of the post by discussing my name there.
I sure didn't mean to ruffle feathers, I really do belive that gender really is irrelevant to what we have to say.
Honestly, just thought all these years that most everyone knew I was a woman. And when k-rico brought it up, I thought; oh he is new to reading my
posts, (I haven't posted much the last couple of years and he and others that didn't know me from the past would like to know).
I always thought Eli pronounced L-E was a common nickname for Elizabeth.
Maybe because I think in Spanish as well as English.
I also acknowledge that Eli pronounced E-lie a common name for a male in Hebrew.
I still think Eli is ambiguous.
My true and legal name is Sally Elizabeth. Here in Mexico I have been called Sara or Sarita since I was kid, (for what that is worth).
When I first stated posting on the old Baja Amigos board, it was almost all male contributors. Two things that I did not want to influence peoples
perspective of what I said was in regard to my gender or who my father was. I wanted my words to stand on their own. Of course, that was only the
first year more or less, and than once I had established myself neither mattered anymore. And I still don't think it does.
Oh, and not that this is relevant to my opinions and how I express myself, I am just a plain and simple ol hetero-female.
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Woooosh
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"I am just a plain and simple ol hetero-female"
I think the lesbian "Elizabeths" go by Lezzi... lol
I have never given gender a second thought when reading posts or looking at screen names. It may matter to some people- but I def know better than to
match wits with a woman at a keyboard. In person I can hold my own- but let a woman sit and simmer in front of a computer... and I'm toast. It's
better for me not to know.
[Edited on 9-17-2010 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Sallysouth
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From one Sally to another, I can say that I love reading your posts and think you are one very special woman! Nice to hear your voice again Sara!!
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Eli
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Hi Sally, Good to connect again.
Wooosh, good point.
By the way Wooosh is ambigous on the gender as is K-rico and Lee, now that I think of it, hummmmm. Why do I think Y'all are guys, and who
cares...........
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Udo
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Looks like we all need to start posting our photos as our avatars to end the confusion.
I'm with woooosh, when reading posts, they all appear gender-neutral.
Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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sanquintinsince73
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Me da igual, Eli. Me gusta reading your post's.
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Gypsy Jan
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No Gender Confusion for Me
Hi Eli (Sara),
Your voice has always been distinctive; your posts are something that I read and savor over and over again
I was never concerned or confused (well, really I never cared) about your gender.
The way you write, the pictures you paint in words are too valuable to be classified in he/she ID ghettos.
Just my humble opinion as a human being.
[Edited on 9-18-2010 by Gypsy Jan]
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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k-rico
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Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Your gender seems blatantly obvious by how you write. I never even gave it a second thought.
Saludos. |
That's an interesting comment. I was the one who thought Eli was male when I commented on the following and used masculine pronouns to refer to Eli,
probably just because I have a friend named Eli, and he's a he.
How does the following convey the gender of the writer?
Originally posted by Eli
"Dennis, I am certainly your friend, after all I am a friendly sort of soul. I admit that I have always walked in my own little world, you are right I
don't want to see the problems, I cannot resolve them, so I look for the good where ever I can find it. One of my favorite games is to see if I can
get a groucy clerk in a store to smile, not always, but usually I can.
I have always been in awe of the graciousness of humanity, more than not where ever I go people are kind to me. I prefer to walk among the people who
live a simple life as I do, maybe that is why. I really don't know why I am so blessed, but I sure do like my world."
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DENNIS
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So...why are you saying this???? You're a bit more vocal these days than you've been in the past.
What's up in your life that you seem to be drawing your friends to join?
I'm only curious, Eli, as I tend to be.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Gypsy Jan
Your voice has always been distinctive; your posts are something that I read and savor over and over again
I was never concerned or confused (well, really I never cared) about your gender.
The way you write, the pictures you paint in words are too valuable to be classified in he/she ID ghettos.
Just my humble opinion as a human being.
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Wonderful sentiment, Jan.....so well written.
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
How does the following convey the gender of the writer? |
I think you can. Here's one of Eli's fairly recent posts which I think clearly convey her gender.
Quote: | Originally posted by Eli
I do know that when it is time to come home to Baja, every day for the last week or so I start counting the days; 7 more nights and I will be home in
my own bed, 6 more days and I will be able to take a shower in my own beautiful bathroom, 5 more nights and I will see the stars again, 4 more
mornings and I will see the sun rising off the Sea of Cortez, 3 more days and hopefully Tio Cat will be meowing Grammmms at me, (although my grandson
always puts out food and water for him, my cat pretty much disappears when I leave and is a bit lean when I return, I wonder where he hangs when I am
gone?), anyway, two more afternoons and I will be hugging my family at the airport, just one more day and night I will finally be HOME sweet home!
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bajafam
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Hmmm, didn't really give it much thought, though I suppose from the Viva Mexico thread I assumed Eli was a male. Not sure why though...I guess because
I have a male cousin named Eli. At any rate, I find your posts very eloquent and lovely to read. So, thank you for that!
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k-rico
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Skipjack Joe,
There's certainly a feminine tenderness to those words. Interesting topic.
[Edited on 9-18-2010 by k-rico]
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Eli
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Jan, how truly eloquent, how kind of you to say.
Skip Jack, Your right, the grammmmms is a dead give away. I had forgotten that I had written that, I wonder was it a year or two ago.
K-rico; As I assume you agree and most everyone will concur, gender doesn't matter, sometimes it comes thru in my writing, most likely much of the
time, but not always.
Kate; You can call me anything, but late for dinner, jeje. Someday, I am going to make it to La Paz to one of those Nomad meets, and I hope we finally
do sit down to break bread.
Sanquinteen, thank you, another proof that gender is ambivalent.
Soulpatch, what is obvious to one leaves another obliviously in the dark. Don't know why I said that, it just flowed so nicely, I have to leave it
here.
Udo, your proof positive, that a picture doesn't help, I think you are the guy in the picture, but sometimes I wonder if you both are sharing the
writing.
Dennis, why did I say what I said when I commented to you that I am certainly your friend, etc. ect.? I felt your comment compeled me to explain my
perspective of the Mexican community, which is really how I see the whole world. I am kind of naive, and I like me like that. I am almost 60, I don't
think that my wonder of humanity is ever going to change, hope not!
Or why am I commenting on who I am? I guess because Lee kind of jumped me about my perspective on the gender issues related to my calling myself Eli
and I felt the need to explain.
Or why am I writing now, when I am usually quite and sometimes don't even visit the board for months at a time?
I bet if one looks back on the dating of my post, they would find that most have been written in the summer, when I am (happily) alone and far from
home, but for sure I miss Baja. I note that many who write here are craving Baja as they write.
Unlike my need to paint, which is absolutely daily, the urge to write is hot and cold. I write when I have something to say, most of the time, I have
nothing to convey.
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bajafam
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Me too Eli!! There are days when the word sjust come tumbling out faster than I can get them to line up coherently on paper (or screen) and then there
are days when I just listen. Please, don't feel the need to explain yourself...or your name...or your gender. Please, just continue to grace us with
your words when you have something to say. And your thoughts when you don't .
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Gypsy Jan
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Thank You
Eli, all I said was truth.
Dennis, thank you for your kind comments.
“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow mindedness.”
—Mark Twain
\"La vida es dura, el corazon es puro, y cantamos hasta la madrugada.” (Life is hard, the heart is pure and we sing until dawn.)
—Kirsty MacColl, Mambo de la Luna
\"Alea iacta est.\"
—Julius Caesar
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Natalie Ann
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Eli by any other name would still be... sweet Sarita.
Abrazos fuerte a ti, amiga.
nena
Be yourself, everyone else is already taken.
.....Oscar Wilde
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Udo
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Thanks, Eli (my mother's name also). 
My wife Jana never posts on this board, but she is a Baja trooper and I'm so proud of her that she loves Baja as much as I do and we can fully share
our passion. She deserves to be in the photo with me.
Quote: | Originally posted by Eli
Udo, you're proof positive, that a picture doesn't help, I think you are the guy in the picture, but sometimes I wonder if you both are sharing the
writing.
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Udo
Youth is wasted on the young!
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Sallysouth
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Yep, what Natalie said!!
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Baja Bernie
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Thinking back
Sara, I don't know why but as I read your 'mother' post, Viva Baja, and now this one my heart takes me back to a young lady who had just crossed the
border to be with her father...the guy we all know as Jimmy Smith. I remember how introverted she was and just plain scared by being in the States.
These feelings are then coupled with my picture of the same young lady looking so lost in the Tijuana Airport as she helped her dad on his last trip
back to Los Barilles.
I felt that I was back in Barilles visiting with your family and how your granddaughter taught this old guy...how to properly fold freshly washed
clothes..."No! like this". Your grandson and his comment about his grand papa scratching his back...Yep! I remeber so many things.
The things you have brought to your family and the role you have played in Baja...and the land of the little people would amaze the casual visitor.
Thank you for allowing me to name you friend and more.
My smidgen of a claim to fame is that I have had so many really good friends. By Bernie Swaim December 2007
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