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lachicana
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GRAFFITI
Does anyone know if all the graffiti on the rocks through Cartavina will ever be removed? Does the government have any plans at all?
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Pompano
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lachicana...it has been removed... several times and for several years. It just keeps coming back ....with a lot of 'advertisers'.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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DENNIS
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It's at it's worst around election time here. The same people who would have one incarcerated for writing on the landscape, have their names written
on rocks throughout the valleys.
I still see one for "Margarita" who I believe was running for Governor back in the eightys.
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slimshady
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Sand blast them!
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Pompano
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Actually....I have a confession to make.
My name is Pompano and I am a graffiti-ist.
...BUT...I use crayon!
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Plesae remember that you are in Mexico,much differ that in the States where you have Tax payers Money to pay for the removeal{Except in South Central
La and Eastern la.
Stop at the place just North of Sta Catavina and look at it real close. It is very differnt and interesting.
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k-rico
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It was a cold rainy day in TJ and while at a PEMEX I saw two cops pull up to a couple of teenage guys walking down the street, tackle them in the mud
next to the street, and cuff them face down with their knees in their backs.
Spray paint cans that fell out of a backpack rolled down the street. It was a good thing to see.
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lizard lips
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I still see one for "Margarita" who I believe was running for Governor back in the eightys. |
She was CUTE Dennis....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lizard lips
She was CUTE Dennis.... |
Yeah...She was. It was also unusual at that time to see a woman running for office.
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Phil S
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Todays graffiti is like 'tomorrows' cave paintings. Some day, history will record these comments regarding graffiti. And some day, Roger's photo's
of his crayon graffiti work will be in museums maybe five six hundred years from now. Along with the boulders they are written on!!
[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]
[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]
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Skeet/Loreto
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I have often wondered:
What does a Graffiti Artist get out of painting on Someone else;s Wall. Sexual maybe!!
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bajabass
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They are not usually "nekid" at the time Skeet! 
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
Todays graffiti is like 'tomorrows' cave paintings. Some day, history will record these comments regarding graffiti. And some day, Roger's photo's
of his crayon graffiti work will be in museums maybe five six hundred years from now. Along with the boulders they are written on!!
[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]
[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S] |
Funny that you should put it that way, Phil, I had been planning on making a graffiti thread for some time pointing out this very aspect of it. I'm an
"Old Road buff" (as likely are most people who ever traveled it) and graffiti comes to mind every time I'm looking for "legitimate" old roads.
Graffiti, and the dates that accompany much of it, is one of the principal clues that one is, indeed, on the Old Road and not on a more recent service
road put in for access to power lines and the like.
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shari
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that would be really interesting bajatripper...thanks for this sideways view of graffiti and it's meaning and historical value...made me stop and
think about it...differently....an interesting idea about new road/old road differences...some of the old roads are decomissioned and sort of taken
out of existance and forgotton about...it would be interesting years from now to see what was written on these old roads...camino real comes to
mind...definately something to ponder today.
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Martyman
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I love the gang bangers, bad-burro graffitti scratched on a toilet seat. WTF? Do they think "I'm putting my name on this turd receptacle?"
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
| Quote: | Originally posted by Phil S
Todays graffiti is like 'tomorrows' cave paintings. Some day, history will record these comments regarding graffiti. And some day, Roger's photo's
of his crayon graffiti work will be in museums maybe five six hundred years from now. Along with the boulders they are written on!!
[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S]
[Edited on 9-20-2010 by Phil S] |
Funny that you should put it that way, Phil, I had been planning on making a graffiti thread for some time pointing out this very aspect of it. I'm an
"Old Road buff" (as likely are most people who ever traveled it) and graffiti comes to mind every time I'm looking for "legitimate" old roads.
Graffiti, and the dates that accompany much of it, is one of the principal clues that one is, indeed, on the Old Road and not on a more recent service
road put in for access to power lines and the like. |
You might enjoy this post I made in 2003 Steve: http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=37127
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durrelllrobert
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History per Wikipedia
The term graffiti referred to the inscriptions, figure drawings, etc., found on the walls of ancient sepulchers or ruins, as in the Catacombs of Rome
or at Pompeii. Usage of the word has evolved to include any graphics applied to surfaces in a manner that constitutes vandalism.
The earliest forms of graffiti date back to 30,000 BCE in the form of prehistoric cave paintings and pictographs using tools such as animal bones and
pigments.[3] These illustrations were often placed in ceremonial and sacred locations inside of the caves. The images drawn on the walls showed scenes
of animal wildlife and hunting expeditions in most circumstances. This form of graffiti is subject to disagreement considering it is likely that
members of prehistoric society endorsed the creation of these illustrations.
The only known source of the Safaitic language, a form of proto-Arabic, is from graffiti: inscriptions scratched on to the surface of rocks and
boulders in the predominantly basalt desert of southern Syria, eastern Jordan and northern Saudi Arabia. Safaitic dates from the 1st century BCE to
the 4th century CE.
Bob Durrell
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MsTerieus
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I have often wondered:
What does a Graffiti Artist get out of painting on Someone else;s Wall. ... |
I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land?
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durrelllrobert
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I have the same question about some homeowners in Mexico: what does a homeowner get out of building it on leased land? |
Zero property tax for one. This is not just in Mexico: you must know that about 1/3rd of the homes in Foster City are on leased land and back in
Maryland, Virginia (and other eastern states) land lease is not uncommon. The annual land lease here is less than half theprice of renting a mobile
home space in the US and guaranteed for 10 years at a time.
Bob Durrell
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
guaranteed |
I've watched these "guarantees" be obliterated by bulldozers in the past. It's one of all words that has no place in Mexico.
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