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BajaWarrior
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Turtle egg harvesting. Wrong!
A friend of mine sent me this, what a shame...
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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bajario
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Where is this?
I'm going to ask because I have no clue on Turtle eggs.
1. Could they possibly be gathering them to harvest for a better survival rate and release them into the wild when they can survive w/o predators. Or
are they the predators and will eat the eggs?
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David K
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Location? South Pacific Islands? Are they 'endangered' there?
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Sallysouth
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I'll take a wild guess and say the later question is the answer.They should all be jailed and fined.Awful!!It really doesn't look like Baja
tho...maybe the mainland?
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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BajaWarrior
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Costa Rica, and yes, they sell them.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
Costa Rica, and yes, they sell them. |
I don't think this is Costa Rica.Turtles are protected by the government. The turtle laying beaches are Federally Protected Zones and the only way you
can get on the beach is to pay and be escorted by uniformed guides.
I am confused. Are the turtles in the photo all dead? To my knowledge they only come in to lay eggs at night. They will not come in during daylight.
They will not come in at night either if there are any lights at all. That includes houses and flashlights.
If it is in Costa Rica, the turtles are probably Olive Ridley. They are not big enough to be Giant Leatherbacks. It would either be Playa Grande on
the Guanacaste Coast, or on the Caribbean side.
The Olive Ridley come in on the Caribbean side near the city of Limon. That population is more black than Latino. The people in the photo are clearly
Latino.
Just a few poachers are successful, during the night, but mostly they are run off by the uniformed guards. Then there are raccoons that also dig up
the turtle eggs.
Again, these photos do not make sense to me. How can this be happening in broad daylight? What are the people really doing? They don't look like they
are being sneaky. They look pretty relaxed. If they are poaching eggs, why not take the turtles too?
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ELINVESTIG8R
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They may be taking them to a hatchery so they are not harvested by poachers and others.
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mcfez
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The literacy rate in Costa Rica is 94.9%, one of the highest in the world. Boy......fooled me. Where the hell is Green Peace?
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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BajaWarrior
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaWarrior
Costa Rica, and yes, they sell them. |
This is the only information I have on this, so one could put any text he wanted along with these photos.
I too don't want to believe that this would occur in this day and age.
Haven't had a bad trip yet....
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flyfishinPam
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For what its worth
http://lapamelareinadepesca.wordpress.com/2010/05/30/do-you-...
critical thinking.... it ain't for everyone!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Thanks Pam!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I'M GLAD THERE IS NO NEED FOR MY SECRET WEAPON!
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DianaT
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Worth a lot! Thanks---good reading.
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mcfez
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I couldnt watch the third video. Sic
It's real amazing how the highest intelligent life form can F*** up this planet of ours. We're just primates really.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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flyfishinPam
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skeet I am now extremely critical of NGO's after seeing them here from the inside and how they are having an affect of the ways we live our lives
here. It was a very painful realization that I am still going through but I assure you I am NOT encouraging donations to NGO's, just the opposite.
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ELINVESTIG8R
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A FORMER POST OF MINE
All I know is that back in the olden days of Baja 1967-1968 the poor sea turtle I saw butchered in San Felipe was cut from its shell alive and was
literally hacked into pieces while still squirming and flailing its legs and head. I swear I even heard the poor thing scream. The butcher did not
even have the decency to kill it first. It was a horrifying sight to behold and I never ever watched one be slaughtered again much less eat one. I had
nightmares for a long time after that.
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flyfishinPam
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I was offered sea turtle a few times but turned it down. Tried the eggs but don't really like the flavour. I kill animals and eat them but believe
that they should not suffer prior to being killed or during the killing and that they should be dressed out only after their life has left them. I
used to not be able to take a creature's life but have since realized that killing for food and survival is part of life. maybe I am digressing
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mcfez
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| Quote: | Originally posted by flyfishinPam
I was offered sea turtle a few times but turned it down. Tried the eggs but don't really like the flavour. I kill animals and eat them but believe
that they should not suffer prior to being killed or during the killing and that they should be dressed out only after their life has left them. I
used to not be able to take a creature's life but have since realized that killing for food and survival is part of life. maybe I am digressing
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Funny....I never had a issue killing for food or buying killed. Since the farm here.....getting to know animals on a daily routine....one notices the
personalities of the animals. Turkeys especially. Yes...I said turkeys. I've had goats, chickens and turkeys killed by stray dogs and coyotes. Makes
ya change the ol thought pattern.Felt very bad about my Turkeys death. My wife has already turn to Vegetarianism. Me.....very hard to see kills
now....even the fish I catch!
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Cypress
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mcfez, Turkeys! A good book about 'em, "Illumination in the Flatwoods" by Joe Hutto. Have as many as twenty wild ones that visit spring and fall. Very
interesting birds.
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baitcast
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In the early 60,s on special occasions,my daughters birthday and such we would have a turtle feed at the Fernandez place,PaPa it seemed would always
have atleast one in camp when we stopped in for our annual vacation.
When watching the first time sent my daughters running,they always cut the throats first then one of the kids in camp would drink from the
cut,when I asked what it tasted like he would say very good with blood running down his chest and it made him very strong looked a little like a vampire.
They were eating them long before we showed up and won,t be stopping any time soon,its easy to feel sorry for the things but stop in at a
beef processing plant and watch how they get the job done there!!!!!
Just be happy your at the top of the food chain.
Rob
Anyone can catch fish in a boat but only \"El Pescador Grande\" can get them from the beach.
I hope when my time comes the old man will let me bring my rod and the water will be warm and clear.
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