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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 10:21 AM
Coyote Ugly...to feed or not to feed???


We had a little gathering out here at the Blowhole a few nights ago to BBQ some yellowtail with amigos who caught them and the dogs started going nuts.

A local vigilancia guy was here and grabbed his spotlight thinking he was gonna catch some abalone poachers as it was low tide. But what he found was a rather mangey, old, weak coyote skulking around near the patio.

The poor old guy looked in rough shape and wasnt at all scared of the people gawking at him...he seemed disoriented. I felt sorry for him and brought some fish out to him but caught a scolding from some of our guests about feeding the wildlife.

But I just couldnt help myself...the dogs got used to the idea of having him around and even the cats went up to him for a sniff. He slept that night under a bush and was there again in the morning. I fed him a half a corbina and he gorfed it down and had another nap on the rocks...later that day...he disappeared. It was one of those neat baja experiences.

It was a pleasure to share our lunch and watch him for a few hours...hope he gained some strenght and carried on.

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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 10:27 AM


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The poor old guy looked in rough shape and wasnt at all scared of the people gawking at him...he seemed disoriented. I felt sorry for him and brought some fish out to him but caught a scolding from some of our guests about feeding the wildlife.

But I just couldnt help myself...


Shari,
We have coyote sightings all the time in our canyon behind our house, and we would never feed them.

But, one look at your photo and I would probably feel the same, along with your story of this one hanging around looking sadly at you.

You are a very caring human being!

[Edited on 12-1-2010 by Bob H]
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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 10:32 AM


juan figured he was either real old or sick...either way, he won my heart with those eyes all right...I too am not one to feed wildlife at all but in this case....I caved in.



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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 10:42 AM
Lucky Coyote? ... maybe


shari....coyotes are coyotes. Humans have feelings. No mysteries there.

Here's what happens when you try to domestic them ..too much.
Mother Nature does not like it when you disrupt 'The Plan.'

http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=8571#pid63400




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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 10:54 AM


ohhhhhhhhhhhh we had a similar experience just a couple weeks ago. Les heard lapping at the back door and thought it strange that our dog Rex would be drinking anything in the back...he opened the door to see a mangy old caoyote drinking some water out of a bucket.

the coyote took off and I took the bucket of water into the empty lot next door and left it there .... amidst much ridicule from Les, I assure you :biggrin:

Next day the coyote was under our picnic table, in the back under the palapa, dead as a doornail. So bizarre that he came so close and yet, I guess he figured he had nothing to lose and water to gain.





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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 11:27 AM


Feed him and the next thing you know he'll be chewing on someones child or pet. They're supposed to be wild. Live and let die.
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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 11:39 AM


While I in general don't approve of feeding wild animals I find it difficult to fault you for having a kind heart.

I'm aiming the old motorcycle south this weekend and will likely pay you a visit sometime next week.
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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 11:55 AM
disoriented warning sign


disoriented....I seen that too. I c/c a article for you (below)


Take your food items for the critter away from your area...like up in a ravine or whatever....the animal will find it. I feed them when in need....




Rabies


Rabies is a viral disease that attacks the central nervous system, and without preventive treatment, is almost invariably fatal to wildlife. The virus, found in the saliva of an infected animal and transmitted through a bite or scratch, manifests itself in two forms, "furious" rabies and "dumb" rabies.

The local animal control officer or police department should be contacted if a coyote is displaying odd behavior, for instance, if it appears disoriented, unafraid of humans.

Symptoms
The symptoms, which appear anytime from two weeks to three months after exposure and vary in each species, cause marked changes in behavior. An animal with the "furious" form can become aggressive, disoriented, and snap or bite at anything in its way; whereas, an animal with the "dumb" form is unnaturally tame or friendly.

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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 12:03 PM


yep Blanca...I looked around for him thinking I'd find his cold stiff body and know that at least he had a yummy last supper...he was not at all aggressive just very weak...back legs were stiff...maybe kidney failure...anyway...viva coyotes.



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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 12:19 PM


A coyote came up last winter, keeping a distance because of the dogs but at the same time close enough that we couldn't ignore his presence after a couple of days. I put the dogs inside and then started walking east towards the volcano with a half a bag of dog food on my shoulder, making sure I passed close enough to the coyote that he would get the scent, which he did.

I opened up the bag, spreading the food on a small rock mesa about a km or so behind the house and then moved back. The coyote approached slowly, looking around to make sure it was safe before finally reaching the food.

While he was eating I was able to get a good look at the animal. Obviously an older dog, very thin and with a bad back leg that appeared to have been hurt recently in a fight. Could have even been one of our dogs no doubt.

I chose that location as it was a distance from our home and offered a lot of protection in the brush and topography surrounding it. I figured it would be as good a location as any for the animal to hang out and recover.

I continued to bring the animal some food and a gallon of water in the days that followed. Even though it quickly learned the routine it always kept a safe distance until I moved back away to eat his daily meal. This routine went on for about 8 to 10 days as I recall. I did notice that the animal was putting on weight and moving faster so I took that as a good sign. Once he seemed to be moving well and looked healthy I made the decision to cut off the food trips.

It just seemed to me that it was the only way the animal would get back out on his own, if that was ever going to happen...
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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 12:34 PM


There's times for tough love and times for compassion with wildlife---he looks like he needed some compassion, what a nice thing to do for the old coyote.
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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 01:10 PM


The coyote is part of nature. Its not a domesticated dog. They don't have thought or emotions. The coyote didn't think "Thank you human for the food." And it might have been the flocker that attacked and killed my dog right on our patio, right in front of us, in broad daylight. I say, "shoot the b**stards."
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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 01:18 PM


Probably would hand out food---most people cannot stand seeing a starving animal of any type, but I sure would not allow my pets anywhere near what possibly is a very sick coyote, let alone be close enough to sniff -----parvo is everywhere down there----and the coyote looks like it could have mange---very contagious.



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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 02:05 PM


A compassionate act, Shari. Good for ya.

As we are ALL part of nature, sometimes the Creator might lead us to care for those beings less fortunate....it is a choice we all make daily, whether we are doing it consciously or not.....and Shari's act was "natural".

To think that lap poodles have more "thoughts and feelings" than wild animals is ludicrous....or that all animals have none is even more so.

As a coyote is part of nature (as stated below), it only follows that a coyote eating your dog is a very natural act....whether it did it in the outback or on your patio.

Folks talk to their pets often as extensions of themselves, but that is all we are ever doing when we talk with another human if you really think about it.

BTG, sorry you lost your dog....but, if you are right, your dog had no thoughts or feelings during its last breaths....so don't worry about it....if your dog suffered beyond just the physical realm, then I guess critters have some capacity for thought and emotion :light:



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The coyote is part of nature. Its not a domesticated dog. They don't have thought or emotions. The coyote didn't think "Thank you human for the food." And it might have been the flocker that attacked and killed my dog right on our patio, right in front of us, in broad daylight. I say, "shoot the b**stards."


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A compassionate act, Shari. Good for ya.

As we are ALL part of nature, sometimes the Creator might lead us to care for those beings less fortunate....it is a choice we all make daily, whether we are doing it consciously or not.....and Shari's act was "natural".

To think that lap poodles have more "thoughts and feelings" than wild animals is ludicrous....or that all animals have none is even more so.

As a coyote is part of nature (as stated below), it only follows that a coyote eating your dog is a very natural act....whether it did it in the outback or on your patio.

Folks talk to their pets often as extensions of themselves, but that is all we are ever doing when we talk with another human if you really think about it.

BTG, sorry you lost your dog....but, if you are right, your dog had no thoughts or feelings during its last breaths....so don't worry about it....if your dog suffered beyond just the physical realm, then I guess critters have some capacity for thought and emotion :light:



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The coyote is part of nature. Its not a domesticated dog. They don't have thought or emotions. The coyote didn't think "Thank you human for the food." And it might have been the flocker that attacked and killed my dog right on our patio, right in front of us, in broad daylight. I say, "shoot the b**stards."


[Edited on 12-1-2010 by motoged]


POW! :lol:




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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 04:05 PM


I feed the squirrels on the back deck when I feel like it....almonds and walnuts...

I let the bears eat the apricots if they can find them...

I let the birds eat the Mountain Ash berries (don't know how to stop them:?:)....and then they fly into the living room window and leave red poop on the window....sometimes knock themselves out:(

I hope the cougars don't eat me....but if they did, I hope I am dead first:cool:

The risk of rabies is real, so thanks for the info McFez on that.

How come Wiley never caught the road runner?




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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 04:15 PM


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parvo is everywhere down there
[Edited on 12-1-2010 by DianaT]


How come I've only caught two if they're everywhere? I love parvo frito.:spingrin:
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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 04:48 PM


My wife insists on feeding feral cats. As a result we have a garage full of them.

We could use a few coyotes...




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I feed the squirrels on the back deck when I feel like it....almonds and walnuts...

I let the bears eat the apricots if they can find them...

I let the birds eat the Mountain Ash berries (don't know how to stop them:?:)....and then they fly into the living room window and leave red poop on the window....sometimes knock themselves out:(

I hope the cougars don't eat me....but if they did, I hope I am dead first:cool:

The risk of rabies is real, so thanks for the info McFez on that.

How come Wiley never caught the road runner?



Wile E. Cyote 'never' caught the Road Runner, instead of spending all his money on those Acme gadgets, he should have ordered a takeaway.



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[*] posted on 12-1-2010 at 05:33 PM


Good for you Shari! - that poor ol' moggy was no threat to anything
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