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My brothers and I did an experiment once on what coyotes like to eat. One night after dinner while camping at San Rafael we left out a can of Denny
Moores beef stew, a can of chili and a can of tomates all mostly empty. The next morning the tomatoe can was the closest to camp, then the chili can
further away and then the Denny Moore can was the farthest away and licked clean. Our conclusion was that coyotes like Denny Moore the best. My oldest
bro thought it was due to the aged beef in it.
In the book "The Land of Shorter Shadows" by Earl Standley Gardner 1948 he tells of finding a newly born coyote that he kept as a pet. Good reading.
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wilderone
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"We are infringing on their turf, we are just guests in their [home]"
In Lake Tahoe it is a crime to shoot a coyote and people have been fined and prosecuted for killing a coyote. It is also a crime to feed the bears.
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sanquintinsince73
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"We are infringing on their turf, we are just guests in their [home]"
In Lake Tahoe it is a crime to shoot a coyote and people have been fined and prosecuted for killing a coyote. It is also a crime to feed the bears.
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My brother's got a place in Nevada City and he and his wife have coexisted peacefully with the "wildlife" for many years.
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shari
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never fed bears but I have shared a berry bush with them...it was more like them sharing their bush with me...allowing me to pick too....as long as I
didnt look at them and stayed on my side of the patch....I did share my corn crop with them though!
One of the most beautiful things I've ever seen was a cougar mamma and her 2 kits walking down our path in front of the cabin...I will never forget
that tail...she never got any of our cats but if she ever did....well...there are lots of kitties looking for good homes. I chose to live in cougar
country an accepted the risks.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"We are infringing on their turf, we are just guests in their [home]"
In Lake Tahoe it is a crime to shoot a coyote and people have been fined and prosecuted for killing a coyote. It is also a crime to feed the bears.
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I imagine you agree that the law against feeding bears is a good one---it far too often leads the bear to an early death.
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I like wile e coyote.
Road runner is a mean, mean bird.
Shoot road runner, save wile!
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Believe in live and let live. Plenty of coyotes around my place. No problems, they mostly eat rodents. Wolves have established themselves, endangered
I think, they'll go for your livestock. There's no shortage of cougars, not endangered, they'll take your livestock. Bears, both black and grizzley,
no problems. Sorta nice having 'em around. They're all neat critters. But, I don't feed 'em.
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shari
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it is a well known fact that ANY human habituated wild animal are at far greater risk to get dead...which is what bothers me about all this popular
whale petting...it puts the friendlier animals at risk.
we are often asked if we feed the sealions...a BIG NO!!! dont need to...they are super curious just lookin at us.
but...an old dying critter....well...I make an exception to my dont feed the wildlife rule...gotta take cases one at a time as individual
circumstances...kinda like mexican law!
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go for it , I would
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
it is a well known fact that ANY human habituated wild animal are at far greater risk to get dead...which is what bothers me about all this popular
whale petting...it puts the friendlier animals at risk.
we are often asked if we feed the sealions...a BIG NO!!! dont need to...they are super curious just lookin at us.
but...an old dying critter....well...I make an exception to my dont feed the wildlife rule...gotta take cases one at a time as individual
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You did the right thing sis. Coyotes are magnificent, intelligent creatures, masters of survival. It amazes me how they have adapted to human
encroachment.
carpe diem!
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yeah, they're magnificent alright until you've seen all your neighborhoods dogs and cats picked off by them; i speak from personal experience
here...by feeding them they get friendlier and friendlier and before long and before ya know it, they are dining on your puddy tat or chico
perro...trust me here....at our northern home in washington their population is at epidemic proportions now and housepets are disappearing daily.
dyslexia is never having to say you\'re yrros.
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I think it's quite clear here that no one is advocating a regular wild animal feeding program by any means. The gist of the thread seems to be
humanely helping out an old straggler in need and good judgment prevailed.
Good for you Shari!
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A few months back there was a coyote down the beach in Bahia Asuncion that started to become a problem----he was taken care of. And for visitors with
pets, we have seem small groups of them in the town near the beginning of town in the early evening time----beautiful to see, but just watch your
pets.
Feeding a nosy bear and making a judgement call to feed an old sick coyote looking at one are two very different things. Most people would probably
put out some food for the old coyote. But I know we would be very careful to protect our pets from association with the possibly very sick
coyote---but that also is a judgement call.
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
But I just couldnt help myself...the dogs got used to the idea of having him around and even the cats went up to him for a sniff.
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[Edited on 12-3-2010 by DianaT]
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Ken Bondy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegemichael
yeah, they're magnificent alright until you've seen all your neighborhoods dogs and cats picked off by them; i speak from personal experience
here...by feeding them they get friendlier and friendlier and before long and before ya know it, they are dining on your puddy tat or chico
perro...trust me here....at our northern home in washington their population is at epidemic proportions now and housepets are disappearing daily.
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I understand, mulegemichael, I have lost pets (cats and rabbits) to them also, and that was sad but I considered it to be my fault. They were here
before I was, and they are just doing what they have to do to survive. We live in a canyon area and see or hear them almost every day. We are much
more careful with our animals now and have had no "incidents" in decades. The fact that they have nailed a few of my pets does not change my opinion
that they are magnificent animals. I don't advocate feeding them, of course, but the situation shari described is unusual and I think being kind to
an old one was the right thing to do.
carpe diem!
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Sometimes I am a grouchy old bear....does that mean you won't feed me if I show up? 
Don't believe everything you think....
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Nahhhh... we'll feed ya,
right after we neuter ya, worm ya, dip ya in a hot flea bath, and send ya to obedience school
djh
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Sometimes I am a grouchy old bear....does that mean you won't feed me if I show up? |
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
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I know that I am going get a lot of slack for saying this: we use a cup or two of dihydrogen monoxide (DHMO) for the real sick coyotes. Sometimes it
is just needed for for poor creatures. It's rather painless to swallow, and the animal will not suffer anymore.
[Edited on 12-3-2010 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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mfez, Dihydrogen monoxide? Water?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DianaT
| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"We are infringing on their turf, we are just guests in their [home]"
In Lake Tahoe it is a crime to shoot a coyote and people have been fined and prosecuted for killing a coyote. It is also a crime to feed the bears.
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My son shot two bears last year IN HIS BACK YARD in Weaverville, Ca.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
mfez, Dihydrogen monoxide? Water? |
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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