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Mike99km
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You guys get on our case when we get upset about giving turn by turn directions to the places we have found and love. Please read the above and check
yourself. We know we can't stop the progress we just don't want to encourage it. I don't want to hi-jack this, so feel free to start a new tread if
you want to take to me to task.
MMc
You live the life you settle for.
"Never teach a pig to sing it frustrates you and annoys the pig" - W. C. Fields.
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bent-rim
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Me and the bride of 20+ years spent a long week in Cabo at some fancy resort. We could of gone to Paris for less money. I was used to those hotels
in Baja that were cheap that we would stay at when I was on a dirt bike trip with my buddies. It was a burn. The food and Margarita's were under
whelming and very pricey. I've thought about taking her to the real Baja, but after a drive down Soda Lake Road on the way to Ojai to stay at the
resort there I was convinced otherwise.
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tiotomasbcs
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Sorry, Texas, but Cabo sucks! You're locked into your hotel or the Bars! You have to search out a beach! Open spaces? Feels like La, La land.
Did you ever have to e3xplore the beaches, pueblos of Baja? get lost and sleep in your car on a lost beach? I think not. Travel Agents built the
place. Once it was beautiful! Condolocos? Mc Donalds? Pleeeze! Of course Mexicans love it? They are in Love with TeleNovelas!! That is
not how we should judge it! Look at Cancun or Cancun. Asi es.  Tio
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by Mike99km
You guys get on our case when we get upset about giving turn by turn directions to the places we have found and love. Please read the above and check
yourself. We know we can't stop the progress we just don't want to encourage it. I don't want to hi-jack this, so feel free to start a new tread if
you want to take to me to task.
MMc |
Mike... turn by turn directions to the coast you surfers named the Seven Sisters existed before many of you were born... The Lower California
Guidebook 1962 edition for one... Offbeat Baja in 1977 gave an excellent road log to that coastal road... the AAA has mapped it... Nomads giving
updated road conditions to those long existing maps and books aren't to blame.
It isn't maps or directions that bring in rif raf... it is GOOD ROADS. Blame the Mexican government who paved Hwy. 1, who paved the Santa Rosalillita
road, who built a dirt highway almost to Punta Blanca along the coast from Santa Rosalillita... When anybody can drive in, anybody will!
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capt. mike
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baja tourists who want to run the country, and the country to run, their way - what they conceive or perceive as best for the geography and
demography.
what a joke.
the mexican citizens and government will decide.
both Cabo and Los Cabos are great if you know where to go and what to do. I'll take a week in los Cabos at a top flight beach resort anytime. Many are
Excellent and deals are rampant. On the other hand if i choose to tent camp on a sand spit with lean to shade and sand up my arse its easy to find
those venues too.
and if Cabo is too glitzy go to the east cape where it is 100% all good!!
the Van Wormer hotels or Pescadero are top flight for what they can offer at the price points.
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oxxo
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Los Cabos is the pits. People are murdered in the streets everyday (but only after they sell you a timeshare first). The beaches are filthy. The
weather sucks. The beer is warm. There are run-down RVs everywhere. The locals are unfriendly. And don't drink the water......you will caca until
you die!
Stay away, stay far away.
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DianaT
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Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
Los Cabos is the pits. People are murdered in the streets everyday (but only after they sell you a timeshare first). The beaches are filthy. The
weather sucks. The beer is warm. There are run-down RVs everywhere. The locals are unfriendly. And don't drink the water......you will caca until
you die!
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Nice try. 
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Originally posted by capt. mike baja tourists who want to run the country, and the country to run, their way - what they conceive or perceive as best
for the geography and demography. what a joke. the mexican citizens and government will decide.
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[Edited on 1-9-2011 by DianaT]
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Marc
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It's sad to return to a place you fondly remember and find it very much changed. My hometown Lafayette, Ca is almost unrecognizable to me from the
'40's. Same said for Honolulu in the '50s. And the isle of Maui; Wow. sidewalks in Kehi!! and hotels!!
The biggest jolt for me in the last few years (besides gas stations in BOLA) was Hong Kong. I couldn't find my old hangouts. I was with my wife so
maybe it was just as well.
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Dewey
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Hello Mike
I have been going down to the 7 Sisters area and other places with good surf in Baja since 1962. It is easier today. I don't think there are any
secret places to surf, I know Woody does not agree. For me, there are two types of surf spots, easy ones to get too and harder ones to get too. The
harder they are to get too the less people go.
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David K
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Exactly... and is it so bad if other people enjoy the surf with you or on any other of the 365 days you are not there???
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karmatourer
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The only Costco I know of with an ocean/cruise ship view!
Quote: | Originally posted by karenintx
Yesterday was beach day. Three couples and one dog on a beautiful secluded beach. Watching the whales go by, eating our picnic lunch and talking
about how we love living here. On the way home we stopped at Costco to pick up a couple of things...steaks & wine for dinner. Yes, I am talking
about Cabo...my home now!
There are several non-tourist places to go in this area. At this point in my life I like all the amenities Cabo has to offer. Sorry it does not meet
your approval. In my younger years I may have enjoyed living in other parts of The Baja but not now.
Diane T said it "nicely", "Just because it is a place I do not care to visit, does not mean it is NOT "real" Baja, and it does represent Baja!
And yes I have visited several other towns and places in BCS. All of them were nice to visit but not my cup of tea...like Mom said "if you can't say
anything nice then don't say anything at all.
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karmatourer
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Exactly my feelings!
I have lived here for all of 2011 and couldn't be happier.
I have also lived in LaPaz and Merida and after a grand total of 9 days,I prefer Cabo.
If the detractors don't like,please stay away.
I could care less how Cabo "was" 20,10 or even 5 years ago.I like it just fine as it is now.
Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
Los Cabos is the pits. People are murdered in the streets everyday (but only after they sell you a timeshare first). The beaches are filthy. The
weather sucks. The beer is warm. There are run-down RVs everywhere. The locals are unfriendly. And don't drink the water......you will caca until
you die!
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Mike99km
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Did I say ant thing about the sisters? My issues regard both sides of the coast. My first trip was 1960 and I've watch it change. I agree that they
are no secrets places. I just hate when the adventure of finding a place on your own and the wonder of discovery is taken away. I didn't want to
hi-jack this thread and am sorry I'm was involved.
MMc
[Edited on 1-10-2011 by Mike99km]
You live the life you settle for.
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BillP
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After reading the responses here, the only logical conclusion one can come to is one mans trash is another's treasure, and that Baja seems to have
something for everyone!
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David K
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Quote: | Originally posted by Mike99km
Did I say ant thing about the sisters? My issues regard both sides of the coast. My first trip was 1960 and I've watch it change. I agree that they
are no secrets places. I just hate when the adventure of finding a place on your own and the wonder of discovery is taken away. I didn't want to
hi-jack this thread and am sorry I'm was involved.
MMc
[Edited on 1-10-2011 by Mike99km] |
Mike, I apologize for an assumption I made... however, lets not regret open discussion to get things out and maybe solve them. You did come down on me
for a trip report or maps posted that where requested by another Nomad and they were in the area of the 'Sisters', so it seemes you have a sensitivity
to that. It is just a dirt road and I never mentioned surfing or beaches in that thread.
Now, if we here on Nomad all love Baja and are the caliber of character that doesn't leave trash on the ground and otherwise like what you like, why
is there an issue here about exchanging info on roads with each other?
Also, how does something here (or in a guidebook) take away any wonder of discovery? Isn't going there in person so much better than what you read or
see a photo of? I don't know about you, but I can go to the same place in Baja and see new things and make new discoveries, each time.
Again, just an exchange of thoughts here... maybe you will see that your brother and sister Nomads also like what you like and it is okay if they
visit a place you also visited. Worry more about the non-Nomads who use a graded or paved road to come to someplace, leave trash on the ground, play
music all night long, spray grafitti on the rocks... I never see this sort of thing on any of the 4WD roads that have been in guidebooks, maps, or
Internet for years.
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Bajahowodd
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Quote: | Originally posted by oxxo
Los Cabos is the pits. People are murdered in the streets everyday (but only after they sell you a timeshare first). The beaches are filthy. The
weather sucks. The beer is warm. There are run-down RVs everywhere. The locals are unfriendly. And don't drink the water......you will caca until
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The price of your condo just dropped!
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805gregg
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But now in Cabo you can buy Crack and Cocain and go to a strip club right on the Malecon, full service degeneration.
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osoflojo
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OXXO and Karen...a-men.
To the rest of you Cabo bashers it is not Cabos fault that you dont know the lay of the land, spend to much money and have a horrible time. Look in
the mirror and see what created such issues. I have been waiting for Bajajudy to chime in here but she probably put a round in her computer at the end
of page one. All of you nay-sayers stay away, go the Cancun or that cesspool Costa Rica or whereever you think Nirvana is and leave us Cabenos
alone......
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sanfelipebob
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After 50 years of camping all over baja, Gonzaga was always a favorite, I enjoy kicking back to a NY Steak dinner, Grey Goose Martini, while watching
the fleet come in at Ruth Cris Cabo Marina ! Sorry.... is that a Cohiba I smell ???
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Bajahowodd
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Wow. Glad you can afford to do that. On my budget, I'm relegated to watching the fleet come in from Solomon's Landing while scarfing fish tacos and
drinking Pacifico.
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