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[*] posted on 1-24-2011 at 09:01 PM
So what's the canary in the coal mine for Baja?


Is it Pompano leaving?
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[*] posted on 1-24-2011 at 09:22 PM


MrBillM moves in next door :lol::lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 1-24-2011 at 09:48 PM


People leave all the time, I'd lean more towards a soulpatch view. It's changed a lot in my 35 years of vacationing south but now that I can spend more time there (retired!!) it's still better than other alternatives for me.
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[*] posted on 1-25-2011 at 06:32 AM


On the east side, empty fish boxes. Pacific side still looking good. Everything inbetween is mystical.
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[*] posted on 1-25-2011 at 07:20 AM


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Is it Pompano leaving?


What am I missing here? Will someone fill me in please? Gods...I must had been asleep at the wheel again !




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[*] posted on 1-26-2011 at 07:20 AM


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Is it Pompano leaving?


What am I missing here? Will someone fill me in please? Gods...I must had been asleep at the wheel again !
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[*] posted on 1-27-2011 at 10:24 PM


I think the canary would be America.
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[*] posted on 1-27-2011 at 11:29 PM


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Originally posted by soulpatch

I guess it depends when you started going and what your basis for comparison is.


Very wise, soulpatch.

The 'begining' is each nomad's first trip. And that explains much of the disagreement we have on this board as to how things should be.

I distinctly remember reading, as a kid, that Daniel Boone felt crowded if he saw the smoke rise from his neighbor's chimney. That was close enough. It was time to move.
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[*] posted on 1-27-2011 at 11:49 PM


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So what's the canary in the coal mine for Baja?


i did not know there was a coal mine in baja :lol:
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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 06:47 AM
Pompano leaving this site?


Will someone throw me a bone here....what da hell is this post about ? :o



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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 07:04 AM


he bugged out for fishing holes, further south i think. up and left baja. something about letting the better half take the wheel for a change.

i think he'd done it all here anyways.....




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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 07:21 AM


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he bugged out for fishing holes, further south i think. up and left baja. something about letting the better half take the wheel for a change.

i think he'd done it all here anyways.....


Wow!
Thanks for clarification.




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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 09:14 AM


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Is it Pompano leaving?



I didn't know he was leaving for good. He only wanted to rent out his house.
I got the impression that he came to the conclusion that life is short and wanted to go out and look around for a while. After all....he is a Nomad. :biggrin: [I know. That's kinda corny, but it's true]
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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 09:24 AM


Been Coming to Baja for 53 years...Had a house on East Cape (Pulmo)...Fishing in the Gulf has declined exponentially...Pacific (Asuncion Area and others) still good...Guess the commercial guys (Japanese longliners and seiners) have screwed the gulf. Had a good trip just 2 weeks ago to Mulege...Good yellowtail and pargo...
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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 09:31 AM


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Been Coming to Baja for 53 years...Had a house on East Cape (Pulmo)...Fishing in the Gulf has declined exponentially...Pacific (Asuncion Area and others) still good...Guess the commercial guys (Japanese longliners and seiners) have screwed the gulf. Had a good trip just 2 weeks ago to Mulege...Good yellowtail and pargo...


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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 03:04 PM


Pompano has pulled out, headed south. He's a fisherman. Good luck Pompano!:yes:
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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 03:18 PM


I don't think there will be a "canary moment". It's incremental. If you see thousands of Mexicans running north past you towards the US border, it's time.



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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 03:28 PM


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I don't think there will be a "canary moment". It's incremental. If you see thousands of Mexicans running north past you towards the US border, it's time.

They are already running north. You must be looking the other way?:o
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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 03:40 PM


a friend who i worked with who lived in 29 palms laughed when i bought a place over looking the coronado islands on the u.s. side.

he seems to think the mad dash would begin any day now and had armed himself, as all of the folks would soon be invading the high desert. i told him why would they go where the lack of shelter/water/food was most extreme?

Larry James just smiled and said he was ready!




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[*] posted on 1-28-2011 at 04:28 PM


I don't know what it is, but I feel it's closing in...........

To illustrate;

In October while visiting Punta Chivato I thought I would go down to Santa Ines. It's the turnoff heading south just before you go into the hills approaching Mulege.

It is on the southern end of Shell Beach. Have never been there. Thought I'd throw some croc's in the water and have a beer. 3-4 miles in on a pretty good road and you hit the beach, a very beautiful beach, with no one there, no one for miles.

Standing in the 78 degree water casting away watching Corvina or something similar chase my lure and tease me, I hear a sound behind me. A Marina stake bed truck with a dozen soldiers are out of the truck and 2 jefe's are approaching me. They ask what I'm doing there, I tell them.

:?::?::lol::lol::?::?:

They ask for my passport, license and copy all the information down. Then they ask me if I had seen any boats, I said no. I find out that it is a popular spot for drug smugglers to offload their wares, meet up with a truck which heads out to the highway..........

Off they went, and I did too as my little bit of paradise got a bit tarnished with my attitude as well.

It's ****ing everywhere. What's the chance of an encounter that could turn nasty? Hell I don't know, but now that incident is forever etched in my mind. Like the image of severed heads and bodies hanging from bridges in Baja Norte, etc. etc.

I'm not one to lament over the ways things were. Change is good, but not this change. Will I still go to Baja? Ya, I'm going next month. Will it be the last trip, I don't know.

I very close friend of mine has thrown the towel in on Baja. One that has been going down almost yearly for over 20 years.

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