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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 06:34 PM


Dennis, you marooon. I am ITALIAN, not mexican. You are probably more of a pocho than I am. And what you have in your hand is the only place you're going to get any satisfaction for it.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 06:36 PM
We confuse most Mexicans...


The Mrs. is from Barranquilla and I'm from Riverside. When they hear her speak Spanish, they think she's an American practicing the language.



Her Spanish is quite good. But she gets mistaken for an Americana wherever she goes which is always good for laughs.:lol:




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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 06:53 PM


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Originally posted by DENNIS
Suficiente... y mas, cuando es necesesario. Quieres mas, pocho?
Digame. Su vida Mexicano es puro frauda. Un otro cabrón hombre sin pais.
Chupa que yo tengo in mi mano, cabron.


Man, that was funny to read. My Spanish is not that good, but I was so pleased to understand every word above. Dennis, can I quote you? I want to be able to use it as soon as possible. Somebody said something about stepping on his own 'verga', I am going to incorporate that into it too.

No derogatory intent to you, Roberto, Italians are very cool people.

I don't know why, it just seems funnier in Spanish.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 07:10 PM


Just My thoughts on This, What goes around comes around, I try to live by this saying and it seems to work. Treat people poorly and they will treat you the same. Treat people with respect and dignity and they will treat you the same. A good example would be Shari from BA She treats everyone with respect and I hope she gets ( I think she does) the same respect back. Color, race and nationality shouldn't matter at all.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 07:14 PM


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Color, race and nationality shouldn't matter at all.



They don't....except for people who are unsure of themselves.
I was....once upon a time.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 07:19 PM


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Dennis, can I quote you?



Feel reasonable.
PayPal link to follow. :lol:

Thanks.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 07:20 PM


Dennis I don't know you but after reading many of your posts I'm thinking you are OK, I don't even know what color, race etc. you are, because it doesn't matter. Maybe we'll sip a brewsky together some day.
All the Best Rick
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 07:40 PM


It's all about the golden rule...period!
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 07:50 PM


I didn't know what the golden rule was so googled it , yep you are right
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 07:59 PM
The Golden Rule for those that don't know it


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I didn't know what the golden rule was so googled it , yep you are right


Treat onto others as you would like to be treated yourself...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 08:21 PM


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Dennis I don't know you but after reading many of your posts I'm thinking you are OK, I don't even know what color, race etc. you are, because it doesn't matter. Maybe we'll sip a brewsky together some day.
All the Best Rick



Thanks Rick. I'll buy the first box.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 08:42 PM


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....Stole their land too.



Every time I hear that the US stole land from Mexico I ask about the land stolen from the Native Americans by the Mexicans. The US did not steal anything....they won a war.:?:




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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 09:48 PM


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As for those people who refuse to work for an American who's married to a Mexicana--it could be that who they are really refusing to work for is the Mexicana. Nothing like nouveau riche in their own country. Going from being poor and having nothing to suddenly being considered to be wealthy can cause some people to adopt an attitude of superiority with their countrymen--it seems quite common in places I've been.


The victim mentality plays well on both sides of the border. We actually have a lot in common - we both think our governments are run by payasos trying to take advantage of us. ;D

That being said, I would have to agree with Bajatripper that some wealthy Mexicans can be divas - mostly toward their own countrymen . . .
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 10:39 PM


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Quote:
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I didn't know what the golden rule was so googled it , yep you are right


Treat onto others as you would like to be treated yourself...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golden_Rule


or... "He who has the gold, rules." :saint:




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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 10:48 PM


I moved here 31 years ago and did not know Spanish and I am not Mexican. I have always been treated with much respect. I was on the first tourist comite in San Quintin. I cooked for 5 Governors of Baja. The first day I took my kids to school the Nuns kept asking for something. I knew a few words and would tell them my husband would be here in 2 weeks. He got here 2 and 1/2 months later. A true Mexican always late. By then everyone in town knew me. I was the gringa and everyone tried to help me. Now people say i am not American I am more Mexican then many from here. I have always felt if you came here you need to learn the language the same is if you go over there you need to learn the language.
I have a sailor mouth for bad words in Spanish. It has never offened anyone that I know of.
P-nche is proper for Kitchen helper. But in slang it is something else.
You get treated the way you want to be treated. If you treat someone with respect they will respect you. If not you get what you deserve.




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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 10:49 PM
People Who Need Other People


Are the Dumbest People in the World.

I think Loony Barbra said that.

Or, something close.

All of this B.S. about what a "People" think is just that. The opinions run the gamut depending on each person's experiences and personal attitudes.

Just like with the Rednecks and others, it's usually the "Disadvantaged" Classes that hold the grudges figuring that, somehow, the fact that their life is Scheisse is because some other group oppressed them and not the fact that they're losers.
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[*] posted on 3-30-2011 at 11:27 PM


I am seen as part of a large Mexican family down here. At first my Mexican family constantly interfered with me negotiating directly with anyone offering services- like plumbers, electricians and the dreaded firewood guy. They say they'll get a better price and better service if they are present when we work out the deal. I don't know if they are right or not, but I suspect they are. That tells me my family thought other Mexicans would take advantage of me as a "gringo" (I do hate that word) if not for their interference. In fairness, my family is mostly from the Mexico mainland (Torreon) and they aren't very fond of Tijuanernos- which could be part of the problem too. I know my Vet charges me more than Mexicans because he thinks I can afford it. I know he donates his services when people can't afford to pay- so I roll my eyes and pay. It's a little bit of a Robin Hood thing- but I am a willing participant. The daily interactions I have with Mexicans arounf town are very pleasant actually- whether it's a Taco stand or a cashier at Home Depot. I have made it a mission to reach out to Mexican drivers by waving thank-you when they actually stop and alternate at a stop sign. I think at times I may prejudge Mexicans more harshly than they do me- especially when driving through TJ. lol



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[*] posted on 3-31-2011 at 08:32 AM


"Last June I had work in Haiti. Everything I said above does not apply to this country and I will write about my trip if anyone is interested."

I'd like to hear about that. Write in "Non Baja trips"
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[*] posted on 3-31-2011 at 09:04 AM


I have been well received and thought of while in Mexico by everyone I have encountered so far. I think that you get what you give. Of course there will be exceptions to that rule.



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[*] posted on 3-31-2011 at 09:38 AM


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I have been well received and thought of while in Mexico by everyone I have encountered so far. I think that you get what you give. Of course there will be exceptions to that rule.


That is true anywhere you go on this planet. Each country/culture has its own flavors, colors and quirks but deep down inside, people are people wherever you go.

Making the effort to learn to read and write the local language fluently goes a long ways to change perceptions. Human nature generally mistrusts when one doesn't understand/comprehend. Good communication breaks down those walls and I have lived that truth while living and working on different continents throughout my life.

Do some locals down here ask for the "Gringo Rate"when pricing their wares/services? Sure.

Do some folks NOB think they can (and do) pay less to Mexicans up there offering their services? Sure.

The human species is far from perfect, no matter what color the skin or language they speak.

Flame on...




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