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fishabductor
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It's taken as a suppository. |
yeah, stop by... we'll save the big chunk for you.
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
coulda been worse amigo...a little up and to the left!!! jejejee |
Oh Yes... you are right on about that Shari.
I was surfing in Miami back in the mid 60's and a Manowar jellyfish washed up on my surfboard and wrapped itself around my groin area! Wow, you
cannot belive the pain I had. It was just a bad scene man! Very bad. I was screaming at the top of my lungs. I was 16 years old at the time!
[Edited on 3-30-2011 by Bob H]
The SAME boiling water that softens the potato hardens the egg. It's about what you are made of NOT the circumstance.
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Marc
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I always like to sleep of of the ground. In my van or truck or if in a tent , on a cot. So my Bud sleeps outside for a week. This was at BOLA. He
leaves his bag out all day. Guess what!! 
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The little vs big is not really the best rule to follow. You could get hit by a juvenile of a larger species that is not all that toxic. A better
but by no means perfect rule is to go by the size of the claws. The species with larger more muscular claws can rely more on their size/strength to
subdue their prey. The more delicate small clawed varieties are relying more on their venom to do the dirty work so it tends to pack more of an
unwelcome punch. Regardless, it's gonna hurt so do your best to avoid contact. By the way, the rumors about younger ones packing more of a punch due
to lack of control are just that......rumors. That is not true for scorpions.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by elbeau
My understanding is that young scorpions do not have control to meter how much venom they inject so you basically get everything it's got, while the
larger ones technically have more venom, but they sting you in doses that are smaller than the young ones. |
I've heard that about Rattlers as well. Don't know if it's true, but I've heard it.
Yep....that's what I heard. |
Well now you have seen it on the internet, so it MUST be true.
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jeans
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| Quote: | | Got up at 5:00am, pulled on my shorts and went to the WC for my morning constitutional. After doing my bidness, I rise from the throne, pull up my
shorts, turn to the lav to wash up and bingo, my outer right thigh starts hurting like a bad bee sting. |
TMI
| Quote: | I realize that something small is in my shorts and it's biting me. (Note to jeans: maybe you can just ignore the 'something small in my shorts'
retort that surely is coming, OK?  ) |
OK....this time
Mom always told me to be different - Now she says...Not THAT different
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You were hit by a Centroides ... they have a neuro toxin which you listed just about all the Sx's of.
You can ID them by they're pale coloring, Very small P-nchers and the tail circles to the left.
For the most part no Tx is indicated, you can take a benadryl and of course Pacifico/Tecate in copious amounts.
Healthy folks as you stated will be fine in 12-24 hours.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
coulda been worse amigo...a little up and to the left!!! jejejee |
Oh Yes... you are right on about that Shari.
I was surfing in Miami back in the mid 60's and a Manowar jellyfish washed up on my surfboard and wrapped itself around my groin area! Wow, you
cannot belive the pain I had. It was just a bad scene man! Very bad. I was screaming at the top of my lungs. I was 16 years old at the time!
[Edited on 3-30-2011 by Bob H] |
Something I once read in a survival book was that in olden days the most common place for a man to be bitten by a black widow spider was in the
scrotum, since these hung down in the old outhouses, into the spider's neck of the woods, so to speak.
In reference to scorpion seriousness/size relationship, I've always understood it to refer to the size of the scorpion species, not the size of
maturity.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfdoc
You were hit by a Centroides ... they have a neuro toxin which you listed just about all the Sx's of.
You can ID them by they're pale coloring, Very small P-nchers and the tail circles to the left.
For the most part no Tx is indicated, you can take a benadryl and of course Pacifico/Tecate in copious amounts.
Healthy folks as you stated will be fine in 12-24 hours. |
It's hard to tell which way the tail circles after a smack from my slipper. I just got nailed in my bed an hour ago, but so far nothing more than a
bee sting. A couple of 85 degree days & they get real active. Killed a big one on the patio this afternoon.
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Glad everyone is alive to talk about their bites on here! I 've never tried it, but a friend was with a group and someone brought along a black light
(insert posters, long hair, and dirt weed here ) and said you'd be stunned at the amount of scorpions that were revealed in the dark of night when you
turned it on. I just always forget to add "black light" to my camping list and therefore never have one to try this out.
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took you that long to realize theres something small in your shorts jim? we all werent laughing at you down there jim. honest.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
coulda been worse amigo...a little up and to the left!!! jejejee |
Living in AZ that happened to me, in THAT spot you are describing.
I went to the doctor and I asked him if he could keep the swell but remove the pain!!! 
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One other point
After being stung many times, you mentioned no big deal regarding the aftermath.
However, it really does depend on where you are stung.
I was stung on the very lower left corner of my thumb nail in the skin on a Thursday late at night while I was sleeping. I killed the little bugger
with the remote control from my TV.
However, by morning my right arm was numb up to my shoulder. It felt as if my arm was asleep. By Friday afternoon, the numbness went to my elbow.
It wasn't til Sunday morning until my arm was back to normal.
So I think it depends on where you get stung. I was stung on my back near my waste line, and had no issues other than a bee sting type of pain.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
Last week while at our cabin in Baja I finally got tagged by a scorpion.
Went something like this:
Got up at 5:00am, pulled on my shorts and went to the WC for my morning constitutional. After doing my bidness, I rise from the throne, pull up my
shorts, turn to the lav to wash up and bingo, my outer right thigh starts hurting like a bad bee sting. I realize that something small is in my
shorts and it's biting me so I slap my thigh hard. Out drops a small scorpion which I quickly dispatch.
(Note to jeans: maybe you can just ignore the 'something small in my shorts' retort that surely is coming, OK? )
I had always heard that the little guys were way worse than the big ones but this was really no big deal: The sting location was just a small red
spot, no swelling. About 30 minutes later my right groin was a little sore. About an hour later my tongue had a metallic taste and maybe a little
swollen. This lasted most of the day and by the evening it was gone. One thing I noticed was that if I sat down to rest, my leg would hurt much more
than if I was walking around.
Some people in camp said the little ones were mild and some said the big ones were mild, anyone know the facts? |
".....Of above thousand species of scorpions some twenty have the poison enough in their venom to affect the humans. So if unfortunately you got a
scorpion sting, stay cool as the chances of being getting poisoned is only 2%.On a regional basis most poisonous scorpions are the one from México,
South of Americas, Africa’s(Arizona),and some Middle East countries".
Maybe you should get a place in the Middle East :-)
Glad you are okay! The kids found one of these buggers on the floor of our bathroom last week. I was thinking.....wow, that be a hell of a dance to
walk on that little feller at 2 in the A.M.!
So I guess we should check the floors, racks, .....whatever... before settling in at our vacation homes.
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
On a regional basis most poisonous scorpions are the one from México, South of Americas, Africa’s(Arizona),and some Middle East countries".
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The bad scorpion in mexico is reportedly in the state of Durango, or so I am told.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by fishabductor
| Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
On a regional basis most poisonous scorpions are the one from México, South of Americas, Africa’s(Arizona),and some Middle East countries".
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The bad scorpion in mexico is reportedly in the state of Durango, or so I am told. |
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Mexico has hundreds of different types of scorpions. Some are extremely micro located. Some of which are more hazardous than others. A generally
recognized and accepted nasty alacran is the red bark scorpion which you can google and read all about.
A bad scorpion string may cause the eyes to jerk around involuntarily and also cause foaming at the mouth. If this happens, don't wait, get to a
doctor --- this is a medical emergency. An anaphalactic shock reaction can close off an airway and demand a tracheatomy. See antihistimine below.
A better-than-nothing prophylactic is to swallow three benedryl tablets as soon as you can after the sting. The antihistamine will work anywhere from
around "somewhat" to "very effective". Mexican doctors are experts when dealing with antivenin and they administer a skin pop reactance test to see if
the victim would have a bad reaction to antivenin. The antivenin does reduce pain and swelling, usually in a dramatic fashion.
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Bob:
"Oh Yes... you are right on about that Shari.
I was surfing in Miami back in the mid 60's and a Manowar jellyfish washed up on my surfboard and wrapped itself around my groin area! Wow, you cannot
belive the pain I had. It was just a bad scene man! Very bad. I was screaming at the top of my lungs. I was 16 years old at the time!"
As an analyst I could comment, but will refrain this time, just this once Bob!
Iflyfishbitingmytonguesometimes
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fishabductor
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for jellyfish...the best cure is pee. pee in a cup and pour it on the affected area...or have a friend or to give you a "golden Shower" it beats a bad
jellyfish sting anyday.
anything with ammonia works, but pee is usually readily available. Windex also works good, but is not usually found on the beach.
For scorpion bites, soaking the bite area in extremely hot water for a 30 min kills the venom. this also works good for Stingray stings.
I have used all the above remedies for the above bites/stings and they all work. I drew the line at having my friends pee on me, as I had a suffienct
supply of my own and it is immediate relief.
[Edited on 4-5-2011 by fishabductor]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by surfdoc
You can ID them by they're pale coloring, Very small P-nchers and the tail circles to the left.
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Unfortunately, now, it's not the only thing that circles to the left.
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