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DENNIS
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US STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY FOR MEXICO
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/tw/tw_5440.html
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woody with a view
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stay home. spend your feeble $'s locally. i won't, but who cares....?
[Edited on 4-22-2011 by woody with a view]
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Woooosh
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"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of
Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."
Oh well. At least come down for the cheap gas, then wait three hours in line to get back with half a tank. (320 cars per line at San Ysidro today)
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
(320 cars per line at San Ysidro today) |
It's a holiday here. The traffic going over to the Buf is just like a summer Sunday.
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J.P.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of
Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."
Yes and most ot the U.S. citzens that were killed were Dirty in so much they had dubious connections down here. |
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sancho
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I'm the only one left I know that will drive across into Mex,
although friends will fly down to the Resorts, Vallarta,
CSL. I think the term US Citizens killed in Mex, has a very
LOOSE meaning. They may be US citizens, but I agree most
have a 'dubious' connection to Mex, not the casual
Gringo tourist
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Woooosh
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Of course no innocent Americans or casual tourists were killed or we would have heard about it from the Union Tribune, right?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Cypress
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In all honesty, there are some very dangerous neighborhoods in the US. Been to a few of 'em. I'll take my chances down in Mexico any day or night.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of
Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."
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it would be helpful if they told us how many were cholos and other ne'er-do-wells.
perhaps tell us how many of the dead gringos had prison or gang tatoos.
need to expand on the description of bodies so it doesn't scare soccer mom tourists away.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
In all honesty, there are some very dangerous neighborhoods in the US. Been to a few of 'em. I'll take my chances down in Mexico any day or night.
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Actually, there are, and have been for a very long time, neighborhoods around Ensenada that when the sun goes down, the police wont go there.
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Barbarosa
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
"More than a third of all U.S. citizens killed in Mexico in 2010 whose deaths were reported to the U.S. government were killed in the border cities of
Ciudad Juarez and Tijuana."
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it would be helpful if they told us how many were cholos and other ne'er-do-wells.
perhaps tell us how many of the dead gringos had prison or gang tatoos.
need to expand on the description of bodies so it doesn't scare soccer mom tourists away. |
I don't think there's any helping folks up here. After all, folks in Calif are scared off by the report of a drug-related death in Juarez. They
honestly don't seem to grasp that it's like someone in Fargo feeling in peril over a death in Chicago. After I came home, many folks insisted they
knew of the peril I had been in better than I did. Actually argued vociferously in total ignorance about the situation in Baja.
One friend really dug in, so I asked her if she had *any* first hand knowledge. She began relating the story of a dead friend. Got my attention.
Turned out the guy died in a mc crash and the story was about getting his body across the border. bfd
Barbarosa
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Bajahowodd
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Many good points made. In my opinion, the current situation is insustainable. But, not until the next presidential election cycle, will any changes be
possible.''That said, I fear that once that election cycle gets into gear, things are really going to get ugly. Figure that the cartels will try to
influence the election, not with advertising, but with body count.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Figure that the cartels will try to influence the election, not with advertising, but with body count. |
And candidates of their own. If they control legislators, they control the country.
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bonanza bucko
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I used to stay in a hotel across from Union Station and two blocks from the US Capitol building in Washington D. C. If I walked out the front door
and turned left instead of right...to cross the street to Union Station I was in imminent threat of being mugged or worse.
I submit that downtown Mexicali is safer than downtown Washington, D. C.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bonanza bucko
I submit that downtown Mexicali is safer than downtown Washington, D. C. |
Probably is. Those Democrats will buy you with food stamps and eat you. 
DK told me to say that.
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Bajahowodd
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Aw geez....
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briantroy
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Downtown Mexicali feels like Mayberry when compared to some of the neighborhoods of San Diego, or much of LA for that matter. I have been
visiting/part time living in TJ my entire life and never hesitate to travel there. There are certain areas you will not find me visiting, but there
are also places up here in East Oceanside you will not see me visiting either. Just a shame very few of my friends will go to TJ/Rosarito/Ensenada
with me anymore. Oddly enough, only my female friends don't seem to have a problem accompaning me.
These endless lands and unique waters are not simply soil and sea. These elements of earth and water are as much a part of me as my blood and organs.
And the people that populate this corner of the world lift my spirit to heights that allow me to see what is truly important; The beauty of life. And
that is the essential gift.
– B. Florez, Mission of Souls.
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MrBillM
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Vacation Planning
TJ or Watts ?
Mexicali or Barrio Logan ?
Gringo or Latino Ghetto.
The Kind of choices Tourists are faced with everyday.
No matter how absurd it is to compare Sh-tholes in U.S. cities to Vacation spots South, somebody can be counted on to do it.
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Marc
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My little 95 Lb wife reads "Gods Middle Finger" says let's go. She has been all over Baja and the Sierra Madre with me. Her schedule has not allowed
for more than those two trips south during the past three years.
[Edited on 4-23-2011 by Marc]
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norte
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Its everywhere. Don't fool yourselves
Puerto Penasco (Rocky Point)
http://www.kold.com/story/12563364/consulate-clarifies-trave...
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