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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 12:21 PM
Extorting just Gringos


I was reading another post...and saw part of this question there....and felt is was a bit of a overkill about San Felipe.

So I post this question to anyone who has been in San Felipe:

What's your experience with any San Felipe law enforcement?


I myself have never had any negative issues arise. Fact is...the cops downtown have been outright friendly.




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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 12:30 PM


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Extorting just Gringos

What's your experience with any San Felipe law enforcement?


never even talked to a cop in san felipe - just talked to a couple soldiers at road blocks.

if the are "extorting only gringos" then that seems fair. gringos got more money than locals. i am all for progressive fees.
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 12:35 PM


They extort everybody at the right time. Tell a Mexican that extortion is reserved for tourists [gringos] and, if they weren't so gracious, they would laugh in your face.
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 12:36 PM


My first post here and it has to be this...

Progressive anything is NOT fair, nor is it equitable. Fair is us Gringos paying the same as the residents.
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 12:38 PM


Never had any dealings with them so far. nancy
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 12:42 PM


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Progressive anything is NOT fair, nor is it equitable. Fair is us Gringos paying the same as the residents.


That blanket statement doesn't work. There are accepted variables.

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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 12:59 PM


Have been stopped several times in San Felipe, always for something that I did - run the stop sign, speed, etc. The police always requested me to go to the police station to pay the find. I always did. I have never been asked or hinted for mordida. Each time I was at the station there were several Mexicans there paying fines but no other Americans. Never been stopped for something I didn't do.

Have been stopped on the Fed. highway 5 and told to slow down, but 2 Mexican plated cars stopped with me were ticketed.

That my 16 year experience here.




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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 01:20 PM


2 Easters ago I got a ticket for running a stop sign wich I did not!
The cops where right behind Me and I knew this! Some idiot Mexican on a quad continued right through an alto sign after I had stoped and tried to procceed so I stopped again and there lights went on.

So I pulled over and tried to explain to her what happen, gave Her My drivers licence She spoke no english, so the other cop came over and He did. I explained again no good. Yet they where right behind Me? Had to follow them to the Station.

Then had to wait 2 hours for the clerk to get back from lunch. The whole time I was worried that my ticket was going to be expensive.
The ticket was only $13.00.

So on a Holiday be cautous and let the B###ds cotinue to brake the law if you are American or Canadian you are the one who will get pulled over. By the way thats all they had in at the station was Americans.

[Edited on 02-05-2011 by Jim/Liisa]

[Edited on 02-05-2011 by Jim/Liisa]
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 01:25 PM


So far my interaction with the police(both federal and municipal) in San Felipe have been positive. Even when I was having a dispute with a Mexican business owner and landlord. Unlike the horror stories I have heard, they were courteous and patient with my lack of Spanish language skills. The outcome was even in my favor.
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 01:42 PM


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if the are "extorting only gringos" then that seems fair. gringos got more money than locals. i am all for progressive fees.


That's funny, man.

For those of you who think that la policia pick on gringos only, have you ever tried to look like a Mexican as much as you can to reduce your mordida extortions? Just a thought, works for me.
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 01:49 PM


Over the last 15 yrs., my Mex travel has been limited
to San Felipe. I too, have never talked to an SF cop. I
believe the smallness of SF lends itself to less of
a mordida mentality. I think the SF cops know the
importance of Gringos to their economy, especially
the El Dorado residents. I have read of Mexicali traffic
stops, which, knock on wood, I hope to avoid.
I'm sure Mex Nationals deal with this often, though
probably with a less costly mordida request
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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 02:34 PM


I have been a regular visitor to San Felipe for 7 years and have never had any interaction with the Policia there except to say hello when I see them on the Malecon. I've had 1 friend pulled over in Mexicali (for speeding) who did get the mordida "bite" and another friend who was pulled over for speeding in Mexicali (he wasn't, I was in the car right behind him) and the cop tried to put the bite on him, but left when I pulled over and parked to wait for my friend. So I know of experiences like this in Mexicali, but have never heard of it in San Felipe.



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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 03:35 PM


First trip through San Felipe in 1965 (as a kid)...
First trip without parents driving my own car in San Felipe was in 1974...
A zillion trips between then and now (last trip through San Felipe was July, 2010)...

0 contact with police.




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[*] posted on 4-24-2011 at 07:17 PM


I avoid the polica, they are all corrupt.
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[*] posted on 4-25-2011 at 08:45 AM


I've never been stopped by a cop in San Felipe and I can't remember ever talking to one.
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[*] posted on 4-25-2011 at 10:26 AM


In my 23 years of traveling to Baja I have had no bad experiences with the cops in San Felipe or anywhere else for that matter. I have had my car searched once by municipal cops in Rosarito, there was nothing to find...they sent me on my way with a smile. Last year I interacted with Federales when my friend had an accident....they were not only professional but very helpful too.



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[*] posted on 4-25-2011 at 11:59 AM


I think part of the problem with stop lights is that their laws are different than ours. In the states you are allowed to enter the intersection on a yellow light as long at you're not still in it when the light turns red. Mexican cops will ticket you if you enter the intersection on a yellow light. Or perhaps the yellow light is so short that it changes to red before you come out.

I'm not absolutely sure of this but that's how I now drive through Ensenada and no longer get cited for that infraction.

Never had problems at San Felipe.
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[*] posted on 4-25-2011 at 03:02 PM


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Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Mexican cops will ticket you if you enter the intersection on a yellow light.



I was thinking about this very subject, did a little looking,
can't remember where I read it, but it did state a flashing
yellow intersection light means stop, do not enter intersection
But I would be careful not to be rearended by a Mex local
behind you coming thru
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[*] posted on 4-26-2011 at 09:52 AM


I was stopped in San Felipe a couple of years ago for blowing a Stop Sign.:( When I asked, "what Stop Sign", the officer took me by the arm and marched me back to the intersection to show me the sign. When we got there he found there was no Stop Sign.:O I guess somebody had stolen it. He let me go.:tumble:
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[*] posted on 4-26-2011 at 10:09 AM


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I was stopped in San Felipe a couple of years ago for blowing a Stop Sign.:( When I asked, "what Stop Sign", the officer took me by the arm and marched me back to the intersection to show me the sign. When we got there he found there was no Stop Sign.:O I guess somebody had stolen it. He let me go.:tumble:




Now, Jorge....you know some of the stop-signs are invisible. They can see them, but we can't. It's a very spiritual thing, those signs. :?:
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