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Bajahowodd
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Many informative posts on this thread.
I tend to believe, as has been mentioned before, that Mexico intends to ferret-out those who live full time or long term in Mexico on a tourist visa.
Seems to me that when they start entering this info into the system when you apply, they will ultimately have a way of tracking the 180 days in one
year piece of the puzzle.
No doubt that they have not made it convenient to "stop the clock", especially if one blindly mails their cards back.
Personally, I sympathize with the authorities about trying to eliminate "illegals". But, as DK mentioned, they also can be shooting their own foot by
seemingly making it more difficult for tourist to go to Mexico.
Bottom line for me is when I see a post on this forum from someone who was denied the FMM form because the computer shows they had already spent 180
days in a given year. Then, people will have to decide for themselves whether to either not visit Mexico, or enter as an illegal and keep their
fingers crossed.
By the way, can anyone educate me on just what the law means as to 180 days? Is it in any given calendar year, or is is in the year that begins when
you obtain your FMM?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Many informative posts on this thread.
I tend to believe, as has been mentioned before, that Mexico intends to ferret-out those who live full time or long term in Mexico on a tourist visa.
Seems to me that when they start entering this info into the system when you apply, they will ultimately have a way of tracking the 180 days in one
year piece of the puzzle.
No doubt that they have not made it convenient to "stop the clock", especially if one blindly mails their cards back.
Personally, I sympathize with the authorities about trying to eliminate "illegals". But, as DK mentioned, they also can be shooting their own foot by
seemingly making it more difficult for tourist to go to Mexico.
Bottom line for me is when I see a post on this forum from someone who was denied the FMM form because the computer shows they had already spent 180
days in a given year. Then, people will have to decide for themselves whether to either not visit Mexico, or enter as an illegal and keep their
fingers crossed.
By the way, can anyone educate me on just what the law means as to 180 days? Is it in any given calendar year, or is is in the year that begins when
you obtain your FMM? |
Another Nomad posted that he 'confirmed' that there is no 180 days out of a year limit for tourists... as originally stated when the new FMM form was
introduced...
That would be a reason why we would need to turn it in at the end of each trip (to stop the 180 day clock during the year), so we could get a full 180
days of Mexico travel.
Of course, that also meant that the $23 dollars were only good for each trip and not the total 180 day period... so we would need to pay every time we
go south, even if we just went for 10 days and again for 10 more days a month later.
Such a joke!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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I posted somewhere in here before that I spoke to the Mexican Immigration official at San Ysidro. He told me that if I am caught with an expired
tourist visa I could be fined and deported from Mexico. He bluntly told me to just throw it in the trash can and get a new one when I came back to
Mexico.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Such a joke! |
Yeah...More American interpretations of the obvious to serve their own purpose.
Wake up, folks. Do what's required by Mexico....not what you think would make them feel good.
Throw the gawwwwwdammmmm piece of paper in the fireplace until Mexico tells you, ecplicitly, that they require it to be returned.
They have never done that officially.
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fatoldcapt
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On the question of Rules or Laws from the INM I read the following from the copy I still have of a Migratory Form for Foreign Tourist (Tourist
Visa/Card/Permit). 2009, From the back: (in part)
Warnings
Tourist
Valid only for 180 days, with no possibility of renewal, starting at the date of entrance
Will be authorized to request an extention until completing 180 days of stay.
Instructions for filling out the Migratory Form
(down a few lines)
The foreigner will retain the Exit Section of the migratory form authorized by the Migratory Authority and will have to hand it in to that Authority
upon leaving the country.
Lastly, at the bottom of the back:
Keep this in a safe place as it will be requested when you leave the country.
If you lose this immigration form, you will have to pay a replacement fee.
I have never turned in a Tourist Visa except on this last trip in April. Only then because they entered the information in a computer when that free 7
day Visa was issued in Mexicali.
So I started this line of discussion mainly to post information about the Tourist Office saying we could mail the forms to their PO Box in Chula
Vista, CA. That is a convenient option for me.
2.- You can send your immigration form to our State Secretariat of Tourism P.O. Box #2448 Chula Vista Ca. Zip. 91912, and we happily can deliver it to
Immigration ( We call the Immigration office and they told us that you don't have to return it personally).
I wish to god the authority in place would make the whole matter more realistic. But we are talking about a Foreign Government. We can’t even get
our’s to do things that make sense. Good Luck to us all!
Aaron
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BAnn
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FMM
Our fm3 was due in May of last year. We waited for the goverment to figure out the new regs, we waited a month and the lady that was doing our papper
work still did not know how to renew the fm3. So we went back north with out the new fm3. Checked back with her when we came back to San Felipe last
fall, now she says we have to pay a fine of $800.00. Is there a way to go around the fine?
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BajaBlanca
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I don't think you can get around it but for sure get another person to do your paperwork. that is just ridiculous that she didnt renew it in time ...
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