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Ateo
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Will be going thru GN maņana with no papers so I'll give you an update. We have passports but haven't been checked in years. In El Rosario right now
and there's nothing I can do to get a tourist card. Hopefully if caught, like I was 10. Years ago, I'll pay a small fine and go tot he bank in GN.
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willardguy
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go to la pinta parking lot go around the east side around the old rv park head off to the cemetary and into town get a cold beer and a couple tacos
and continue heading south. we've been doin it for a couple decades.
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thebajarunner
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It is cat urine
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Howard
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I just don't get it
Some of the people that are posting on this thread seems like they wear their premeditated deceptions as a badge of honor. We have all forgotten to
take care of things but to by design, thumb their nose at another countries laws is beyond me. These people would probably be the first to scream if
a Mexican snuck illegally into the USA without papers and demand them to be deported, or worse.
JUST DO THE RIGHT THING AS IT IS NO BIG DEAL TO FOLLOW THE RULES FOR PROPER DOCUMENTATION TO ENTER AND STAY IN MEXICO.
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
George Bernard Shaw
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BajaGringo
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Howard
Some of the people that are posting on this thread seems like they wear their premeditated deceptions as a badge of honor. We have all forgotten to
take care of things but to by design, thumb their nose at another countries laws is beyond me. These people would probably be the first to scream if
a Mexican snuck illegally into the USA without papers and demand them to be deported, or worse.
JUST DO THE RIGHT THING AS IT IS NO BIG DEAL TO FOLLOW THE RULES FOR PROPER DOCUMENTATION TO ENTER AND STAY IN MEXICO. |
Amen
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Roberto
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Curt63
Most importantly, if you do not have the valid paperwork (stamped) and you are in Mexico illegally YOUR AUTO INSURANCE IS INVALID.
You will have some serious issues to bribe away if you are in a traffic incident (your fault or not)!
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This is not correct, and has been repeated several times. How do you know this?
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Bajaboy
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We stopped at San Ysdiro immigration in June to pick up our FMTs. The guys there remembered us from our many visits. They said the bank was no
longer open. We asked how to pay. They said we could pay anytime, anywhere as long as we did it before we left. We were not checked headed south.
We tried to pay one day in Vizcaino but the bank could not take our money. The immigration guys forgot to give us the paperwork for the payment. We
asked the manager if he could verify that we tried to pay to which he refused. Fortunately, we were not checked northbound.
We'll try again in September.
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rts551
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The sneaks do this thinking they are so smart. EVERYONE knows the routes around, including immigration and the military. More than once I have
seen the military checking on people on those back roads.
My immigration friends just smile and say fine - but they may have to pay the price later. What price?don't know, I guess it depends on what
situation you might find yourself in.
Why risk it? getting the paperwork is too easy and in the scope of things, cheap.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Howard
These people would probably be the first to scream if a Mexican snuck illegally into the USA without papers and demand them to be deported, or
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Thats funny, Howard. To whom would they make these blussterful demands?
Are you having bad dreams?
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Cielomar
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Came though GN in mid-June and no check. I talked the guy up in Spanish a bit and that may have helped. I brought an ATV in a trailer and was
checked at Tijuana. Wanted to see the original title and registration along with my passport. Bottom line, don;t take chances and have everything in
order. Its not that hard. Besides, we are all terrible at bribbing. Not part of our culture (at least not on the low end).
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
So. All those posts that talked about the immigration office closing there were just so much nonsense.
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No, not nonsense, but rather, they were closed at the time and have reopened since. Think of the San Clemente/San Onofre check point heading north on
I-5. Sometimes it's closed, other times, not.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ateo
Will be going thru GN maņana with no papers so I'll give you an update. We have passports but haven't been checked in years. In El Rosario right now
and there's nothing I can do to get a tourist card. Hopefully if caught, like I was 10. Years ago, I'll pay a small fine and go tot he bank in GN.
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As I posted above, it apparently is no longer a "small fine," as per what EMD-1 told me, unless $100 dollars a pop is "small" to you.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
The sneaks do this thinking they are so smart. EVERYONE knows the routes around, including immigration and the military. More than once I have
seen the military checking on people on those back roads.
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In all my years of traveling in Mexico, I've never had the military check on my immigration status. They're only interested in wether one has drugs or
arms onboard and could care less about anything else, including if one is smuggling computers and other such items that require one to pay an import
fee. I doubt you've seen them checking papers on those back roads.
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David K
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I find all three of Bajatripper's posts above to be 100% correct from my experiences, as well.
If your insurance was purchased at BajaBound.com or Discover Baja, the lack of a tourist card has been clearly stated by both agencies as having NO
affect on the policy being honored. I do think both would recommend that we all obey immigration laws, however. Sadly, those laws are a bit obscure as
to when and where the tourist card is needed.
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Ateo
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| Quote: | | As I posted above, it apparently is no longer a "small fine," as per what EMD-1 told me, unless $100 dollars a pop is "small" to you.
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Nah. $100 dollars ain't small to me. Ouch.
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Howard
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Let me amend part of my post on this thread
"JUST DO THE RIGHT THING AS IT IS NO BIG DEAL TO FOLLOW THE RULES FOR PROPER DOCUMENTATION TO ENTER AND STAY IN MEXICO."
OTHER THAN THE B.S. ONE HAS TO GO THROUGH TO GET AND KEEP RENEWING THEIR FM-2 AND FM3
[Edited on 7-23-2011 by Howard]
We don't stop playing because we grow old;
we grow old because we stop playing
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toneart
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Let's see.......it could be open, it could be closed. They could ask for papers or they could not. They could do something today and not
tomorrow........NOTHING is consistant.
Who cares about a 72 hour limit, or a free 7 day card, or the tourist zone, or where the line is.......just get the thing. It's gonna be cheaper than
the fine.
It's like 4 wheel drive........better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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Was this it?
Mexico teaches patience
...to the Monks among you who already bring patience skills with you.
When it comes to Mexico it is difficult to get the straight story because, unlike the U.S, their government policies, and especially their
implementation, are inconsistent. Yes, it is easy to get frustrated, but when you are in Mexico this is one of the thing you have to accept. Those of
us who have traveled and/or lived in Mexico much of our lives know this.
You have to learn "la onda"...the way it is done. And I don't mean there is only one way. What I mean is, you have to learn how to wend and wiggle
your way through the maze. Knowing some Spanish and showing respect goes a long way.
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BajaBlanca
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the GN immigration office was indeed closed for a long time and even tho it is haphazard, they sometimes check now and sometimes don't.
in san ysidro, the office, we were told, is open 24/7 for payment. you just have to wake the guy up depending on what time it is
that being said (I really like that expression), when we drove to puerto nuevo, we were stopped by the military, fully armed and pointed at us, in
the middle of absolutely nowhere and our vehicle was searched. well, sort of searched. seems they are not too excited about dogs, even tho Rex is the
most friendly dog on the planet !!
[Edited on 7-24-2011 by BajaBlanca]
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woody with a view
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we get stopped "out there" in the middle of nowhere and look at it as positive. guns and all. Mexico's only chance rests with these young men......
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
we get stopped "out there" in the middle of nowhere and look at it as positive. guns and all. Mexico's only chance rests with these young men......
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Chance to do what? Harass fishermen?
Mexico is doing the same thing they whine about when the US does it....militarizing the border.
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