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[*] posted on 7-23-2011 at 06:48 AM


I agree to agree Cardon Man!! I have a Daiwa Regal 5500 that has caught some very nice fish!! Honestly though, I cast my conventionals, level wind and not, further than the spinner.

Very frustrating when you see fish chasing bait, just beyond casting range. I've ended up with more than a few of DT's examples trying to get my lures out to the fish!!!;)

McFez, my tackle box weighs so much I use it as ballast to trim the ride out on my 17cc.:yes: Seems I always wanted that ONE lure I did not bring!!




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[*] posted on 7-23-2011 at 07:27 AM


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I agree to agree Cardon Man!! I have a Daiwa Regal 5500 that has caught some very nice fish!! Honestly though, I cast my conventionals, level wind and not, further than the spinner.

Very frustrating when you see fish chasing bait, just beyond casting range. I've ended up with more than a few of DT's examples trying to get my lures out to the fish!!!;)

McFez, my tackle box weighs so much I use it as ballast to trim the ride out on my 17cc.:yes: Seems I always wanted that ONE lure I did not bring!!


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[*] posted on 7-24-2011 at 12:02 PM


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40# braid, about 20' of 20# flouro top shot, skip the mono.


I also use this setup for shore fishing. It's worked pretty well for me so far. My rod is a little heavier though, I use a Seeker 12-30lb. My spinning reel is a Shimano Spheros 5000 with upgraded drags.
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[*] posted on 7-24-2011 at 07:12 PM


40# braid, 20# flouro topshot....i use uni to uni knot and it works great; always has...better invest a little bit more and get a true saltwater certified spinner so it lasts you more than 6 months down here...wash off thoroughly after each use even with the certification...i even "saltaway" mine..



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[*] posted on 7-25-2011 at 07:39 AM


This is my "light setup to. I join then together with end loops and haven't had a failure yet. The loop knot I use is super easy and putting a new top shot is quick. The knots are really small so you don't feel much as it goes thru the guides.

half twist then feed loop thru.




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Maybe, but never for a beach rod!;)


Agree to disagree. Not that I own a Stella...but I lust for one badly.
Stella aside...there are more affordable spinning reels that have the drag and capacity to catch big fish from shore.


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[*] posted on 7-25-2011 at 11:00 AM
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The Kunnans were one of the first, decent, affordable rods from Asia that I can recall. I've still got one that I use from the mid 80's.


I always thought they were in South Carolina, made rods and golf shafts, but the factory burned down. Anyway, have four different Kunnans, some Ugly Sticks, Seekers etc all from yard sales or swapmeets in San Diego. Yard sales in a fishing town keep the costs down..~8^)

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[*] posted on 7-25-2011 at 11:36 AM


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The Kunnans were one of the first, decent, affordable rods from Asia that I can recall. I've still got one that I use from the mid 80's.


I always thought they were in South Carolina, made rods and golf shafts, but the factory burned down. Anyway, have four different Kunnans, some Ugly Sticks, Seekers etc all from yard sales or swapmeets in San Diego. Yard sales in a fishing town keep the costs down..~8^)

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This is my understanding as well. I got 3 at a g-sale for cheap and then went home and researched them. They are actually pretty sought after by many. I thought they were cheapies when I got them as part of a huge lot, I was in for a pleasant surprise.
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[*] posted on 7-25-2011 at 11:49 AM


Thanx everyone, I was out of touch for a while so didn't get to follow this as the posts came in. Everything is making pretty good sense to me except...Most folks say braid to floro, Im OK with that. But most folks talk about fairly short floro sections, I had envisioned floro the distance of a cast (to avoid "wind" messes with braid) and braid backing. Someone want to educate me on the short vs long topshot question?Thanx again for all the input.
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[*] posted on 7-25-2011 at 03:24 PM


not sure if you know or not but make sure your rod guides are rated for braid. If they are cheap guides, braid under tension will cut a grove into them, and this grove will cut your braid.


I used to fish braid, but went back to Mono or co-polymer p-line with a flouro leader. The reason is I fish mainly for roosters from the beach. The lure of choice is a 3 oz ranger, which creates a lot of line speed when cast. Being that I use baitcasters only, it is a matter "when", not "if" a backlash will occur. Braid has zero stretch, so when a backlash occurs a 3oz ($15) lure goes zinging out to sea, when the backlash stops the spool and the braid can't absorb the hit being that it has zero stretch, so it either parts or cuts itself. With mono the line stretches rather than breaks, usually saving me a lure.

Braid also sucks in the abrasion resistance area, and when fishing from the beach 9 times out of 10 there are rocks within "rocking" distance. Not sure how many big fish(and lures) I have lost when fishing braid and a fish takes you into the rocks, one nick with braid and it's all over. Adios amigo

Braid also costs way too much. I can buy 3000yds of 40lb p-line for about $80, where braid would cost $450 for the same quantity. I don't see enough benefits to warrant the cost, that is unless I was bottom fishing 500' down, then the zero stretch would pay off as one could feel the take.

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[*] posted on 7-25-2011 at 04:23 PM


I could very possibly be wrong on country of origin on the Kunnan rods! I was told by the salesman, at Turner's Outdoors in Orange,Ca., that the were "inexpensive Asian" rods. Love the one I have! I wonder whose blanks they used?

:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin: I watched a 3oz chrome and prism Kroc go at least 100 yards out after a heave and backlash episode at La Ribera yesterday. Dra. Bajabass got a good giggle out of the expletives that followed. :rolleyes:

On my heavy beach rig I have 65lb braid and about a 50 yard topshot of 40 lb mono. The light rods are 15 and 20lb mono. The stretch does help save most lures from launch, but not all! Usually when the bait/fish are breaking just beyond normal casting range!!! CRAACK!! Adios cien pesos!!




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[*] posted on 7-25-2011 at 04:59 PM


kunnan used their own blanks. They called it Spiral tech, if you look closely at a kunnan you can see it, the filaments are spun around the rod. Most graphite rods are rolled carbon sheets.
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