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durrelllrobert
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Quote: | Originally posted by toneart
Troll she may be, but I am not getting that. At least, I don't think she is a retread.
The retreads have been popping up a lot lately, mostly in Off Topic. They carry the same themes and targets, and their writing styles are easily
identifyable. These old retreads hammer out the same tired stuff year after year: Vengence ; against BajaNomad for getting banned;
hatred ; of Liberals, Mexicans, Mexico and Mulege in particular; hatred for specific Nomads; racism; false impersonation of Nomads and making
up lies with the intent of character assassination on other websites.
Aimee is different. Her themes are religion, injustices and now...Mexican military incursions into the U.S. Who knows if she is legitimate or just a
goof/troll? I am leaning towards thinking she is legitimate. I don't detect hatred or any political axe to grind.
Where she bears some similarities to retreads is: myopathy, vehemence and obcession. Her thinking appears to be muddled, but persuant to a particular
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...but in her last post she stated:
"The fact is that I would prefer not to be a part on "Baja Nomads"
Not that I shive a git one way or another.
[Edited on 8-15-2011 by durrelllrobert]
Bob Durrell
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DENNIS
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I wonder what answers would have come up if no Americans had been present. I stand by my original assertion. |
It may have been interesting to hear their take on the rest of the same story....that is, how do they feel about Gen. Pershing pursuing Villa into
Mexico.
I doubt the same indifference would have been heard.
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I wonder what answers would have come up if no Americans had been present. I stand by my original assertion. |
It may have been interesting to hear their take on the rest of the same story....that is, how do they feel about Gen. Pershing pursuing Villa into
Mexico.
I doubt the same indifference would have been heard. |
I've got a real interesting article about that very subject that really put that expedition in a whole different light. I'd be happy to drop off a
copy with you on my upcoming trip north, if you care.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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A real Mexican would likely take pride in such invasions |
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Out of curiosity, Jesse, how do you feel about Pancho Villa's midnight ramble through Colombus, New Mexico? |
Villa was a revolutionary, a guerrilla fighter and an outlaw all in one. I see the raid simply with historical curiosity, but it doesn't mean much
politically to me. It wasn't an action taken by the goverment, it was the action taken by a very interesting man who lived a very interesting life.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
A Mexican security helicopter landed at a Texas airport by mistake last week too. Oops. I think the places incursions occur should be fenced or a
line drawn so everyone knows where the border is. If it was a big deal, there would be a fence- right? It also helps to recognize the USA flies
military drones over Mexico collecting information and we have security operatives in Mexico... so it goes both ways.
[Edited on 8-11-2011 by Woooosh] |
I would just like to let you guys know this kind of thing happens more then you think. I don't feel it is such a big deal as long the the two
countries communicate about what has happened and why and maybe how to prevent it. Now others perhaps get upset by this when US military forces
"accidently" enter Mexico in many cases makes an extremley big deal about it. Something to the effect that the "gringos" have violated "soverign"
mexican territory. The US drone issue you bring up is true, but it is at the request of the Mexican government to help with their war on drugs, and
this issue was kept quiet to the mexican people because if they knew US drones were in mexican airspace the people of mexico would be up in arms. I
want to share with all of you an icident that happend in San Diego in 2007 when I was still on active duty. One of my sister units had boats
operating out of Coronado NAB and it was the not the regular crews of these boats but some of the higher ups that wanted to take a joy ride. Well long
story short they ended up in mexican waters by mistake, the mexican navy didn't do anything because they Identified the boats as being US military
but they did make some phone calls one being to the Commander Navy Region Southwest to complain about "American Military Boats intruding Mexican
waters." So not such a big deal unless it is the US miltary making the mistake.
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I've got a real interesting article about that very subject that really put that expedition in a whole different light. I'd be happy to drop off a
copy with you on my upcoming trip north, if you care. |
So Dennis, is that a "no, I don't care"?
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by JESSE
Villa was a revolutionary, a guerrilla fighter and an outlaw all in one. I see the raid simply with historical curiosity, but it doesn't mean much
politically to me. It wasn't an action taken by the goverment, it was the action taken by a very interesting man who lived a very interesting life.
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Actually, he was General of The Army of The North....as you know. It's difficult to imagine that someone that instrumental in the affairs of the
country could fart without having implications to the business of the government.
That's pretty much as Carranza saw it as well. That's why he had him aerated in Parral.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
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I've got a real interesting article about that very subject that really put that expedition in a whole different light. I'd be happy to drop off a
copy with you on my upcoming trip north, if you care. |
So Dennis, is that a "no, I don't care"? |
oooops...Didn't see this one, Steve. Thanks for the offer, but I can't make plans with so many variables.......when?
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Barry A.
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In the late 1800's, the American Army invaded Mexico illegally several times looking for Geronimo and his band of followers, spending many days
rambling about in Sonora and Chihuahua.
Tho a few got upset on both sides, most just ignored it.
To a much lesser degree, and on several occasions, fingers of Mexican Army regulars entered the USA in pursuit of------you guessed it-----Geronimo,
and Cochise and Mangus Colorado, etc. etc.
Other than a flurry of diplomatic complaints, nothing further happened. Most simply felt that anything that resulted in the killing and capture of
Apache was just fine.
Barry
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
In the late 1800's, the American Army invaded Mexico illegally several times looking for Geronimo and his band of followers, spending many days
rambling about in Sonora and Chihuahua.
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Yeah....Mexico was the Pakistan of our Wild West.
Go get'em, Boys.
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
In the late 1800's, the American Army invaded Mexico illegally several times looking for Geronimo and his band of followers, spending many days
rambling about in Sonora and Chihuahua.
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Yeah....Mexico was the Pakistan of our Wild West.
Go get'em, Boys. |
Yep, but unlike Osama BL, the Army never caught Geronimo----he surrendered (several times), mostly on HIS terms, the last time in the remote Skeleton
Canyon of SE Arizona-----My wife and I visited that site in our 4x4 about 9 years ago, and hung-out for a few hours--------lots of spirits were
present, & there was a slight throbbing in the air, and eagles screamed at us as they circled above---------fun, fun!!!!!
Barry
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