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BajaBlanca
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TUNA BOAT SIGHTING !!
BAD NEWS: Now, I always thought that these boats were illegal, especially when they came in so close to shore ...well, Pedro Sors, the TV fishing
reporter, who recently stayed with us, told me that they are PERFECTLY legal. They have special permits that allow them to come in / travel up and
down the coast as far as they want.
GOOD NEWS: What Mexico IS doing, he says, is slowly but surely buying back the permits. So that eventually, we will not see more tuna or shrimp boats.
near or far from shore.
Let's hope it's true and not so manana m a n a n a MANANA so as to not make a difference in the end.
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Those boats come in quiet often Blanca. Last month two came in complete with helicopters. Helicopter came into town and bought up all our cigs and
beer.
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[Edited on 9-27-2011 by rts551]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Those boats come in quiet often Blanca. Last month two came in complete with helicopters. Helicopter came into town and bought up all our cigs and
beer.[Edited on 9-27-2011 by rts551] |
Ahhhh, so the tuna boats are good for the economy....
Don't believe everything you think....
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silver lining - must be tuna around.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Those boats come in quiet often Blanca. Last month two came in complete with helicopters. Helicopter came into town and bought up all our cigs and
beer.[Edited on 9-27-2011 by rts551] |
Ahhhh, so the tuna boats are good for the economy.... |
the world has 6,775,235,700 people, and at least 4.5B like to eat fish for dinner once in a while... the boats gotta fish somewhere to satisfy those
appetites! if not baja, then will be elsewhere!
worldwide per capita fish consumption is 44 lbs/year,... so fishermen and aquaculture need to generate >264,000,000,000 lbs per year worldwide.
at least all that fishing is good for the economy!
[Edited on 9-28-2011 by mtgoat666]
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yup...as much as we dislike it, the businesses in town like it when dozens of hungry, thirsty, out of smokes guys come into a village...plus lots of
people trade caracol etc for meat from their freezers.
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about a month ago we had 12 of these boats on the horizon at one time !! At the time though, I thought they were all breaking the law - blatantly. I
didn't get a picture, but i should have. It was prety impressive. there wouldn't have been enough beer and cigs in la bocana to take care of them all
!! that's one way to pee locals off can u imagine NO beer here ??? ugly ugly ugly
The boat in the above picture I posted sold fish to the coop - several pangas met the big boats and went back and forth a number of times.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Those boats come in quiet often Blanca. Last month two came in complete with helicopters. Helicopter came into town and bought up all our cigs and
beer.[Edited on 9-27-2011 by rts551] |
Ahhhh, so the tuna boats are good for the economy.... |
the world has 6,775,235,700 people, and at least 4.5B like to eat fish for dinner once in a while... the boats gotta fish somewhere to satisfy those
appetites! if not baja, then will be elsewhere!
worldwide per capita fish consumption is 44 lbs/year,... so fishermen and aquaculture need to generate >264,000,000,000 lbs per year worldwide.
at least all that fishing is good for the economy!
Untill all the fish are gone then the ocean dies and the humans that eat all that tuna.
[Edited on 9-28-2011 by mtgoat666] |
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David vs Goliath
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The questions that I would ask are: From which country do these boats come from? With regard to permits sold to fleets from foreign countries
(countries other than Mexico), how does that help the Mexican economy (besides the revenues from the sale of permits)? Are these permitted tuna boats
adequately and sufficiently regulated/inspected so as not to deplete fish stocks to a damaging level? Same question with regard to limiting/policing
fishing to permitted levels of tuna and not other types of fish.
I don't know, maybe I am just misinformed or maybe just naive, but if I were to see tuna boats in the SOC near La Paz or Loreto or even Cabo, I would
admittedly be very cynical about it.
10 -15 years ago when I was doing some sport fishing off of Dana Point in Orange County, California, I would watch the sport fishing fish reports and
occasionally I would see yellow tail counts go up really quickly, then commercial fishing boats would be seen and in two days the fish counts would go
down from several hundred per day down to 6 or 7 caught per day from sport fishing boats.
I admit it, as a sport fisherman, I am cynical when it comes to the proper regulation of commercial fishing.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
yup...as much as we dislike it, the businesses in town like it when dozens of hungry, thirsty, out of smokes guys come into a village...plus lots of
people trade caracol etc for meat from their freezers. |
Pardon the ignorance but what is caracol?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by castaway$
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
yup...as much as we dislike it, the businesses in town like it when dozens of hungry, thirsty, out of smokes guys come into a village...plus lots of
people trade caracol etc for meat from their freezers. |
Pardon the ignorance but what is caracol? |
a sea snail. or more accurately a conch. the meat inside is used in a variety of dishes.
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rts551, Thanks sounds like something I just might have to try on my next trip down. Where do you usually get it? We travel the length of the peninsula
and stop all along the way.
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Pacific coast. Is where I have always seen them. The Coops dive for them for selling or canning. I know the Punta Abreojos Fish store (Pescaderia)
in La Paz sell the canned ones and sometimes fresh.
The store in La Paz. Fresh fish!!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
silver lining - must be tuna around. |
Spoke with friend in Samoa Woody. He said last trip they did 9000 miles without a set, never got the net wet.
What's happening is that the boats are going into any fishery they can as the tuna are drastically depleted. That is why we're finding seiners in
uncharacteristic fishing grounds.
Global warming and changes in fish migration patterns is making a difference also, the whole neighborhood has changed.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by castaway$
rts551, Thanks sounds like something I just might have to try on my next trip down. Where do you usually get it? We travel the length of the peninsula
and stop all along the way. |
We also gather them up on the beach after a storm. But like all shell fish, they are technically prohibited.
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caracol is most excellent...many people here prefer it to abalone and makes a wonderful seafood c-cktail and ceviche with the fresh white part of
it....really delicious.
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does the local coop or officials enforce the rules on collecting them?
| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
caracol is most excellent...many people here prefer it to abalone and makes a wonderful seafood c-cktail and ceviche with the fresh white part of
it....really delicious. |
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lots of people pick them up off the beaches when the tide goes out and nobody I know got in trouble that I know of.
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I have no idea about getting them off the beach but I would guess HERE it is a NONO
caracol is for sale in our local coop store here in la bocana
I heard the coops have canned goods now for sale at walmart but I am not sure if that is in cabo or la paz ...
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