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CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
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bajadave1
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Nomad toons could be changed to the whiners board
nothing has been posted to that board in years.

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Iflyfish
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Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
The game is called “Kick Me”. It is played to acquire stroking by getting others to “dump” on them.
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Are you saying that they play kick me to gain sympathy? To have others step in and say nice things. An indirect way of generating praise?
We all need stroking to survive, after infancy we acquire those strokes via social interactions. If we can't get positive strokes negative ones have
the same value. Ever notice how if you ignore a child they will escalate and get you to pay attention? They are acquiring negative strokes from you.
Some people get addicted to getting negative strokes and will maneuver to acquire them from you, hence the name of the game "kick me". It seems odd
and convoluted if you are not a "kick me" player.
Ain't It Awful players will get strokes by engaging you in dialogue about how bad things are. This dialogue can go on forever and become a pastime,
like discussing the weather or baseball, how poorly other women dress, the crime in Mexico, the superiority of Republican thinking, the virtue of
Texas and Texans, you get the idea.
Here's wishing you that there is only one Turkey at your table today!
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Mengano
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Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Ain't It Awful players will get strokes by engaging you in dialogue about how bad things are. This dialogue can go on forever and become a pastime,
like discussing the weather or baseball, how poorly other women dress, the crime in Mexico, the superiority of Republican thinking, the virtue of
Texas and Texans, you get the idea.
Here's wishing you that there is only one Turkey at your table today! |
Incredible. You tell us about the Ain't it Awful players and then conclude your statement with an "Ain't it Awful" statement. Wouldn't a non-game
player merely have said "Have a Happy Thanksgiving"?
Doctor, heal thyself!
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DENNIS
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Since this thread has been retired to the analyst's couch, it should be left to fall asleep.
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mcfez
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McFez says.............I am the defender of Baja!
I totally agree with JESSE's original post here. I for one....understood what points he was making.....I say also that there are idiots in here at the
BN that simply are here to install negative remarks towards topics of Mexico.......and DO NOT EVER present positive commentaries about Mexico. Who?
Certainly Mengano (Fulano)....Baja 1943....a few other others. Zero positive commentaries.
Hell...I can post 100% negatives about Mexico too..... dangling heads off bridges.....mass murder.....drug infested cities and
towns......hookers....It's hell down there folks!
Hell...I can post 100% negatives about United States too.....let's pick out Anaheim for a example..home of the famous and over crowded
Disneyland.......In 2003, Anaheim reported murder (9), robbery (410 reported incidents) and aggravated assault (824 incidents), 1,971 burglaries were
reported, as well as 6,708 thefts, 1,767 car thefts, and 654 car accidents...and 43 cases of arson.
Wow! this was 10 years ago and for ONE town in good ol' USA. DONT TRAVEL THERE....YOU'LL DIE!
The majority of us will simply talk about the good fun we had at Disneyland....and some of us will include the negative aspects of going to
Disneyland. We all know that there is danger in all cities...and the smart traveler will stray away from the ghettos and red light
districts.......just as you should when traveling Baja...Mexico....Germany...Belize...Russia...so forth. For anyone to keep pounding away with
negative remarks about Disneyland.....and zero positive commentaries...we all know that that person has mega issues with life. This is the same when
idiots such as Mengano displays 100% negative remarks and debates.
Baja is just as safe and fun as you may wish to make it...with good foresight and judgement calls. I'm a big guy. Had my days running a few NightClubs
and Mom n Pop Bars...runs to the Sturgis Motorcycle Rally....as well as the Redding runs......but I wouldn't be stupid to be walking downtown TJ,
Ensenada, San Felipe......at 3 a.m. Oh.....include Anaheim!
So yes....I too am sick and tired of reading garbage from BN's here that promotes 100% negative.
My good BN amigo here...DENNIS....says freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship. I do indeed agree with DENNIS.....probably
more so than him! I am not some BN here that exchanges 100 % positive remarks....posts of 100% positive topics....fact is...I am sure my reputation
here has a "blemish or two" :-) ! However.....I do not post 100% negative remarks as a few do here. This is what I believe JESSE was trying to point
out......100% outright anit Mexico remarks.
For the average traveler, the USA is fairly safe, but the numbers do not lie. There are more than 200 million guns in the USA and more than 50 murders
a day, 10 times the rate of Germany. Nearly 5000 people die a year in truck crashes, about 6000 pedestrians die on the streets and 31000 people end
their own lives. The USA now leads all nations in violent crime and leads all nations with incarcerations now standing at 2.3 million. American
citizens also make up the greatest number of criminals serving time in overseas prisons. Militias, hate groups and other right wing radicals all
spread their message of violence and are known to throw around the odd pipe-bomb. The government is not much better, spending a whopping $600 billion
a year on defense in order to contain the handful of nations hostile to it.
See the top ten countries that ranked.....not the place to travel!
http://listverse.com/2008/04/08/top-10-most-dangerous-places...
[Edited on 11-24-2011 by mcfez]
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
My good BN amigo here...DENNIS....says freedom of speech is the freedom to speak freely without censorship. |
Thanks Deno. I appreciate your comments.
I do want to say, however, and as long as Jesse and I are agreeable on mutual respect, that Jesse's points, those concerning negativity, were and are
the furthest thing from my mind.
My point, albeit muddled, was that in Jesse's effort to point out a problem, he also was tacitly [others...not so tacit] offering a solution....that
of stifling a free flow of dialogue, and to me, that's repugnant. Jesse's, and others, proposal for an ideal, their ideal, form of speech here is
denied in my estimation.
Now...Jesse, and others, may object to this, and that's alright. I'm only saying it as I saw it.
Anyway....have a good day, Deno, and thanks again.
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Iflyfish
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Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Ain't It Awful players will get strokes by engaging you in dialogue about how bad things are. This dialogue can go on forever and become a pastime,
like discussing the weather or baseball, how poorly other women dress, the crime in Mexico, the superiority of Republican thinking, the virtue of
Texas and Texans, you get the idea.
Here's wishing you that there is only one Turkey at your table today! |
Incredible. You tell us about the Ain't it Awful players and then conclude your statement with an "Ain't it Awful" statement. Wouldn't a non-game
player merely have said "Have a Happy Thanksgiving"?
Doctor, heal thyself! |
Ouch, got me……well played.....thank you!
I guess there is some truth to the old adage that a Sadist is someone who gives pleasure to a Masochist. I needed that…..thanks, that hurt so good!
Given your response I am sure you will love my Thanksgiving gift to you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCzVyRJlJgc
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Skipjack Joe
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Back to the Kick Me game:
I've been watching it here on nomads for a decade without understanding why it was going on. I knew it was being repeated for a reason because the
choice was made over and over but I couldn't figure out what the 'victim' was getting out of it. Now it's getting clearer.
BTW, I wonder if a negative thread about too much negativism cancels each other out somehow.
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Iflyfish
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Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Back to the Kick Me game:
I've been watching it here on nomads for a decade without understanding why it was going on. I knew it was being repeated for a reason because the
choice was made over and over but I couldn't figure out what the 'victim' was getting out of it. Now it's getting clearer.
BTW, I wonder if a negative thread about too much negativism cancels each other out somehow. |
Double negative, funny!
For some fun see if you can find the game "NIGYSOB" (Now I Got You You SOB) in this thread. This game is one in which the protagonist gets to triumph
in their superiority by finding the "flaw" in the other, it's a Persecutor/Victim game. The protagonist is operating out of a position of low self
esteme and gets to feel superior by unmasking the other player as a fraud. There is usually a lot of repressed anger toward parental figures who
treated them harshly. It is a way to express repressed hostility and to reinforce their existential position. Their basic position in life is I'm Not
Ok and You Are NOT OK either! They are nihilists. These people can be dangerous if they play the game in the 3rd degree. Prison populations have a lot
of these folks in them, they were often abused, and may deeply deny their abuse so keep acting it out on others.
First degree games result in minor irritation, second degree causes social disruption and third degree involves tissue damage. One has to be careful
when playing with folks like this. First degree players are just not fun at your party, if they ever get invited.
I will play for a while if I am bored just to see the game play out, like watching your favorite bad team who can't score a point.
Iflyfishwithturkeyonmyface
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Oddjob
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Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
For the average traveler, the USA is fairly safe, but the numbers do not lie. There are more than 200 million guns in the USA and more than 50 murders
a day, 10 times the rate of Germany. Nearly 5000 people die a year in truck crashes, about 6000 pedestrians die on the streets and 31000 people end
their own lives. The USA now leads all nations in violent crime and leads all nations with incarcerations now standing at 2.3 million. American
citizens also make up the greatest number of criminals serving time in overseas prisons. Militias, hate groups and other right wing radicals all
spread their message of violence and are known to throw around the odd pipe-bomb. The government is not much better, spending a whopping $600 billion
a year on defense in order to contain the handful of nations hostile to it
See the top ten countries that ranked.....not the place to travel!
http://listverse.com/2008/04/08/top-10-most-dangerous-places... |
McFez, where did you get your statistics on the US leading all nations in violent crime? Your listverse.com site doesn't show the US in the top ten
that are listed. Please give accurate facts.
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mcfez
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Please give accurate facts.
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McFez, where did you get your statistics on the US leading all nations in violent crime? Your listverse.com site doesn't show the US in the top ten
that are listed. Please give accurate facts. |
Hey oddjob...had you read the entire story (page)...you would had seen the story under: "bonus" added to the top ten places......at the very last of
this news account.
I love trolls like you.....
I suggest that perhaps the reading level at listverse.com was well past your Anarcho-primitivism life style. May I suggest this book for you....
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Oddjob
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McFez, please try to interpret your post a little better before you add your silly digs and attachments and attack my reading level. You are claiming
that the US is the MOST violent country in the world and that is not true according to your link. Getting mentioned as a bonus without a ranking
doesn't put it in the top ten.Go back and read it very slowly and try really hard to grasp it.
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mcfez
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Quote: | Originally posted by Oddjob
McFez, please try to interpret your post a little better before you add your silly digs and attachments and attack my reading level. You are claiming
that the US is the MOST violent country in the world and that is not true according to your link. Getting mentioned as a bonus without a ranking
doesn't put it in the top ten.Go back and read it very slowly and try really hard to grasp it. |
Oh...be a man and admit that you messed up. If you cant...I understand.
"You are claiming that"......no...the news account was. Go back and read it very slowly and try really hard to grasp it :-)
Old people are like the old cars, made of some tough stuff. May show a little rust, but good as gold on the inside.
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Iflyfish
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Quote: | Originally posted by mcfez
Quote: | Originally posted by Oddjob
McFez, please try to interpret your post a little better before you add your silly digs and attachments and attack my reading level. You are claiming
that the US is the MOST violent country in the world and that is not true according to your link. Getting mentioned as a bonus without a ranking
doesn't put it in the top ten.Go back and read it very slowly and try really hard to grasp it. |
Oh...be a man and admit that you messed up. If you cant...I understand.
"You are claiming that"......no...the news account was. Go back and read it very slowly and try really hard to grasp it :-) |
I think that the difference lies in how one defines violence. Is the invasion of a foreign nation without provocation considered violence? Is the
displacement of 2 million people in that country considered violence? Is having the highest per capita prison population in the world considered
violence? Is being the largest arms dealer in the world considered to be violent because that country supplies arms to nations engaged in civil wars?
Is a nation considered violent if it engages in assasination and the overthrows of elected governments? I think it's a matter of perspective.
If one is to look at person/person violence then Latin America Nations hold the prize for the six most violent nations in the world. Not a prize one
would want to hang in the living room.
Iflyfish
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Mengano
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Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
I think that the difference lies in how one defines violence. Is the invasion of a foreign nation without provocation considered violence?
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Are you talking about the German invasion of Poland in 1939? The Iraqi invasion of Iran in 1980? The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990? The Japanese
invasion of China in 1937? The Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1979? Or some other invasion?
Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Is having the highest per capita prison population in the world considered violence? |
Isn't imprisoning lawbreakers a method to prevent violence? Isn't having a high per capita prison population and a low per capita crime rate an
indication of an effective law enforcement system?
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
I think that the difference lies in how one defines violence. |
I used to define it by the amount of blood on my shirt. Have things changed?
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Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
I think that the difference lies in how one defines violence. Is the invasion of a foreign nation without provocation considered violence?
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Are you talking about the German invasion of Poland in 1939? The Iraqi invasion of Iran in 1980? The Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990? The Japanese
invasion of China in 1937? The Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1979? Or some other invasion?
Quote: | Originally posted by Iflyfish
Is having the highest per capita prison population in the world considered violence? |
Isn't imprisoning lawbreakers a method to prevent violence? Isn't having a high per capita prison population and a low per capita crime rate an
indication of an effective law enforcement system? |
Hey Chuck? don't you have a job since you got laid off? or a girlfriend since the last one dumped you?? does your Rabbi know what you do all day and
the type of hate and bitterness you spew all day??
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Mengano
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Hey Chuy! Does this post sound a little too negative on Mexico and Mexicans to you?
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JESSE
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Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
Hey Chuy! Does this post sound a little too negative on Mexico and Mexicans to you?
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I don't feed trolls Charles, so tell us what happened with your ex latina wife who dumped you?? why are you so bitter towards Mexicans? did she take
all the money? ran away with the milk man?
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