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BajaBlanca
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maybe check the magazine to make sure you were not cited inside it somewhere ???
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Ateo
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Yeah, I know some surf photographers who would be peeed if someone stole their photograph. Most of them put "copyright blah blah blah" embedded in
the picture just so people can't steal them. Just my $.02.
Having said that, what average person is gone add that to every picture?
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ateo
Yeah, I know some surf photographers who would be peeed if someone stole their photograph. Most of them put "copyright blah blah blah" embedded in
the picture just so people can't steal them. Just my $.02.
Having said that, what average person is gone add that to every picture? |
I am not mad... I am honored they thought it was front cover material (I sure didn't think so)! However, it would have been nice if they either asked
me or credited me.
Blanca, no credit inside according to Ferna. That photo was not posted on Nomad, it was only in my Baja Blog... so no mystery as to how they got it or
who it belonged to.
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Roberto
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| Quote: | The major difference between my posting maps and photos and a magazine doing it, is my web site and my posts on Nomad are NOT for PROFIT or INCOME...
Just for education. The magazine is using my photo on the cover to help sell the magazine... so it has value. A credit would have been nice, that's
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David, what you don't seem to get is that, regardless of profit or anything else, if I take a picture, or publish a map, you are not the one that gets
to make the call of who can publish it. It's MY WORK, not yours, and that's exactly what "copyright" means.
Try, for once, to be objective. Why would I have the right to decide which works, created by someone else, require permission and which do not. It
just doesn't make any sense. I don't want to get into an argument or a spitting contest, I just hope you will see that your stance on this is totally
one-sided and unfair to others who create works, regardless of your motivations in posting them on a website.
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DENNIS
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A signed release is necessary if the work is used commercially. Unfortunatly, it would cost millions to pursue that in Mexico.
Haven't you heard US Pop tunes re-recorded in Mexico on the radio down here? Lots of them. Just today, I heard some Ranchera singer with a clamp on
his nose singing Downtown...the hit by Petula Clark in the 70's. This place is a bigger artist rip-off than China.
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rts551
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David how about you recent articles on that gringo magazine. you used other peoples research without ever citing their work.
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Bajatripper
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David
Congratulations on the selection of your photo for that magazine cover, and totally agree that they should give credit where credit is due.
McFez--I like a lot of your posts, but I think the one above--which is uncalled for--does you a disservice. You let David bring out the worse in you.
Too bad, since you take the hit. I don't know you yet but can say I look forward to meeting you some day.
I can also say that I can't help but think a little less of you when you post things like that when they are unprovoked (or did David edit something
out that I missed?).
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
| Quote: | | ...are NOT for PROFIT or INCOME... Just for education. The magazine is using my photo on the cover to help sell the magazine... so it has value
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David, what you don't seem to get is that, regardless of profit or anything else, if I take a picture, or publish a map, you are not the one that gets
to make the call of who can publish it. It's MY WORK, not yours, and that's exactly what "copyright" means.
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While I can't say what the law says specifically, I do know that while attending three different US universities, as students we could make all the
copies of books and articles we wanted to "for educational use only." University libraries usually have the most number of copy machines on campus for
a reason.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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fdt
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A lady came to me at the hotels trying to sell me advertising. I now recognized the photo.
I let David know about it.
Oh..... now it hit BajaNomad forum and the controversy and DK bashing begins.
As DK wrote, he is not upset, credit should have been given and was not.
I spoke to the woman and she told me that her picture editor had told her she had written permision from the author to use the picture, I asked her if
she ever saw the pemision and she said no, she trusted her person.
How they found the picture to use on the magazine says a lot because they most probably used a search engine and that directed them to DK.
How many here can search for a specific Baja California subjet or theme and get their site come up as in this, was probably the case and David K's pic
came up.
A well informed Baja California traveler is a smart Baja California traveler!
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Roberto
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Fernando! What rock did you crawl out from under?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Roberto
Fernando! What rock did you crawl out from under? |
Heyyyy....no way, Roberto. I know Ferna and this isn't him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCFMDLakxaY
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Roberto
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Well, DENNIS. Nice to see you have a sense of humor, at least some of the time.
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David K
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I never noticed this on my Facebook message in-box, but I got a reply concerning the use of my photo by that magazine... and it seems to be a point of
shame that they used it and never asked me first (again, I would have said they could)...
Hola sr. buenas noches mi nombre es mirna ortega y me llamo la atencion su comentario sobre la revista bc y mas, se que las fotos publicadas son de su
autoria, una disculpa de antemano, a mi me invitaron a participar en este proyecto lo cual dije que si al principio pero despues ya no me involucre
mas y fue presisamente por que no tenia la certeza que todo lo publicado fuera realmente de la revista., de verdad me da muchisima pena con este
problema de las fotos, dejeme felicitarlo que son muy buenas fotos por cierto... Me despido y dejeme contarle que la revista no salio a la venta ni
publicada fue cancelado este proyecto.
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vgabndo
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So it looks like the magazine cover was a mock-up to use to sell advertising, and the whole thing never flew. That would be a very rare book cover if
it exists.
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