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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joerover
Doug
Since you have given up on policing your web page ...
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I very much appreciate your obvious concern. However, another (very) inaccurate statement.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
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We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by joerover
create a 2 post per day limit for each computer, |
You're a real problem solver, arncha. Why not go for ultimate peace and just close down the site?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
should I now leave the rest of the party because they're around? |
If it's a lousy party because of the host's guest list, yes. Why would you even ask that?
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Doug, what's your idea on the future of this place? Are you interested in cleaning it up? My hope is that all you would have to do
is give the word, to rally support from the productive majority.
Or perhaps I'm wrong; does anybody else care about regaining civil discourse around here?
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Hard for me to look into a crystal ball and see what the future holds for the Internet, streaming media, and online bulletin boards (or other
information sources)....
..but nothing's going on right now here that hasn't gone on in the past. Multiple times - and with different folks. And frankly, some of those
"productive majority" have indicated they love it, and others hate it. Go figure.
And you're right - in another post - there's only so much I can do with the (pretty significant) time I spend here almost every day (trips to Baja
being the only exception to this).
There are too many "balls in play" here to go over - and some of it needs to be done privately, as usual.
It seems everyone will have a different definition of what needs "cleaning up", as well as what "civil discourse" is. I've found the variation in the
latter to be quite a challenge for years and years now.
Thank you also for your concern. I appreciate it. 
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Doug
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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BajaNomad
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BTW... solutions-focused comments/suggestions regarding the administration of this site are always welcomed. In public or in private. There's a
forum for it.
Thank you.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
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Skeet/Loreto
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I have been on this Board, coming over from the previous Owner Oh so many years ago.
The Board did a very good job until the "Bunch" got on and started all of the BS about Fulano, Jihad, etc.'
I have to admit that sometimes it is difficult to pass by the Post.
Could it be that Doug could make the off Topic completely out of Site and open only to those who agree if they go onto the Board???
Most of the Posts by the "Bunch' is all False Lies made up to get attention. Ifeel for some of the Youngsters who get on their Threads and beleive all
the Bull Puckey, but some do beleive it!!
What a Shame.
Skeet/Loreto
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wessongroup
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Well .... here is something for real... albeit a bit removed from the geography of SOB.. but, still some 4 x 4 location ... and some kind of vehicle
... and the kind of folks right here... less some of the other ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFwPXEeJ3aI&feature=fvst
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
...all of the BS about Fulano, Jihad, etc.'
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Not really much, if anything about that except in off-topic Skeet. Avoiding the off-topic forum would solve that pronto.
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...Could it be that Doug could make the off Topic completely out of Site and open only to those who agree if they go onto the Board???
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Thought I did that when I concealed that forum on "Today's Posts" - and made it only accessible by password?
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Most of the Posts by the "Bunch' is all False Lies made up to get attention. Ifeel for some of the Youngsters who get on their Threads and beleive all
the Bull Puckey, but some do beleive it!!
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Yep. People need to stop feeding the trolls!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
Thank you Skeet. 
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Why do people always have to make an announcement?
Seems strange to me.
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This appears to be the part in Iflyfish's psychological analysis from Dr. Berne's book where the victim says something to get attention.
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I was thinking of that same post by IFlyFish from yesterday. A "kick me" thing by a victim to gain sympathy. You don't have to announce you are
leaving if you really want to leave- you just do it. He needs to reinvent himself a third time anyway- just like Baja has.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
But I do think it is real and that it is a problem that there currently are folks who fear to post on this board because of the aggressive behavior of
a few and the prevalence of personal and often vicious attacks.
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Begs the question, does it not, that if there are so many silent participants, they comprise a willing audience and If that had no value, it would
cease to exist at the moment it started......but it doesn't.
Wonder why?
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That is a case of "freedom of speech" infringing on the rights of others and I think it is negatively impacting the free flow of information and the
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Rights? What rights? Nobody has a right to tell others what to say as long as that said adheres to the written rules interpreted by the author and
administrator.
I contend that the fractuous behavior has intrinsic value to the site. Of course, grossly inappropriate behavior has no place here.
BajaNomad has earned a reputation as THE word on Baja issues, and has done so in the midst of turmoil as well as peaceful dialogue. This isn't a
garden party.....neither is Baja. They're both tough places to deal with.
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wessongroup
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Think National Enquirer ....
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
...I do think it is real and that it is a problem that there currently are folks who fear to post on this board because of...
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I agree with you completely. Somewhere though, because of the variation of sensitivities, there needs to be a mark set for the "middle ground" (or,
the "line", if you will). Where should that be? Everyone will have a different opinion. How much more moderation will be
required to raise that "level"? Who's going to do it? While never to everyone's approval (or anyone in particular - other
than myself I suppose), I've done my best to remain consistent in applying those rules, and that's always the key issue, it ends up being the
judgement of when those rules are being violated. Again, everyone's opinion/judgement differs. We all carry our own set of sensitivity
levels - including the interpretation of written communications and the intent the author had.
Ayyyy.... yaaaay yaaaay.
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When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
This isn't a garden party.....neither is Baja. They're both tough places to deal with. |
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Implying that it's obvious, I suppose, and perhaps something derogatory about me because I didn't see it.
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It was your party?
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Seems like there's always been BS flying around the forums, a little more now maybe...bigger difference I see is more posting from folks who live in
Baja full-time with all the issues that come with that. Maybe less posting about exploring the outback too (myself included, though living in TX
didn't help...).
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Thanks Doug:
It seems to me that what we need is more Self Control!
That is difficult in these times. The need for the small "Bunch" to Post threads and use such Offensive Wording is a good example of the workings of
their small minds.Again "What does it do?? Why all the wording about Jihad, Fulano, trying to theaten someone by Posting their Address:
It does seem Cowardly doing it on a Computer.
Let us all try to keep the Good Part of this Board going. It does a great service for many People including the First timers and their many Questions.
"Control our Desires and keep Our Passions within Due Bounds"
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DENNIS
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Skeeter....Stay away from OT. It's an evil place and will ruin your day.
Keep Christ in Christmas.
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DENNIS
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Sooo...anyway..........
Jesse...stick around and take what's good from the board and give back in kind. You are a high-value poster and a fun target.
Jes kiddin'.
Just sleep on it, Amigo.
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Jesse, I always looked at your posts, I assume you are a Mexican National, just guessing I don't think there
are more than just a few on BN, your perspective is often different than us P-nche Gringos.
By the looks of things, seems you have a few other readers.
D, nice Ricky Nelson reference
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
D, nice Ricky Nelson reference |
Ohhh freakin' nooooo...............enlighten me, please.
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