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captkw
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HOLA, I think I new mike a long while back...did he have the trailer with bamboo side's/fenceing next the road at the river ??? and the guy that ran
the place back in O heck,,I guess 85 or so, big mike,big john,big bob,, FISHING machine ....I thought I would never lose my memery..... and I miss the
bakery....over the year's I have seen that river(bad term) wipe out that area time and time again,,,sorta like a bad ex,,show's up once in a
while,,and after she's gone so is everthing ,,baja bound !!(soon) yee haaa.....Keith & li tasha
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pompano
YES< I knew the older guy sitting in the chair ,, with white shirt,,great pic's K&T
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captkw
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triggers
taking out guy's on the sly(no lic.) I'd head offshore early.start with tuna and dorado,after2,3,4 hr's let's head back inshore for serria's for
ceveche grumble,grumble,then I'd re-rig and find some rockpile's,ok,drop um....I got a big one, one guy yell's,,somtimes a double,,fish get's to
color,then into the boat,,the guy looks dazed & confused,befazed he say's that isnt the first fish,it musta got off and this little guy somhow got
on,I look at him and calmly say welcome to trigger fish...lb for lb the toughest fish in the ocean,,he look's at me like I'm crazy (true) and rebait's
& drop's,,bang up come's another BIG ,THIS is a BIG fish he scream's and get's to color,a trig,has happend lots of times
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Skeet/Loreto
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Vag> If you could just relax and somehow "Look at all sides of any Question" you would be a much better Himan Being.
And I do not beleive that I descended from a MONKEY!!!!!
Yes about 10 years ago my wife worked for a years for a Church and I {Speaking Sanish} held a position helping my fellow Mexico Friends getting
invilved.
Then the Pastor started teaching aganish FreeMasonry{I being a 50 year Member} there fore my Wife and I departed.
When Arriving in Amarillo same thing Happened so we are no longer involed with a Church but do like to listen to the Good words of Joel Olsteen on
Sunday Evening.
The Trouble with you Sierra Nuts is that you do not have the Ability to observe ,study, or see the other side.Is it not Great that we as Americans can
Beleive as we wish with out having some Liberal, DOPER, from the Sierra club telling us what to do with our lives!!!
I will bet you are also a Member of PETA who by the way wants Turkey Texas{Home of Bob Wills} to change its Name to TUFURKEY.
Now just think of the "Brillance of that Request.
I think maybe Vag you are Un Happy with your Life so you Blame Religion for your Own Shortcomings.
God Bless you and Merry Christmas
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sancho
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
I do not beleive that I descended from a MONKEY!!!!!
God Bless you and Merry Christmas |
No Anthropology Classes? OK, but how did Magellen
circumnavigate on this FLAT earth? FYI, it wasn't
a MONKEY
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wessongroup
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And on this side .... William Jennings Bryan ...  we are NOT descended from apes...
And to think he was a liberal Democrat .... 
Hey Sketter ... now how the hell did that happen... just saying ....
Not sure on if he wasn't into the Environment... but, would think not ... just guessing ...
Things sure do change over time...
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capn.sharky
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Was this tread about the fish in the Sea of Cortez or about dumping on Skeet. Hey, he was there when some of you guys were still in pampers. He has
seen the fish count go up and go down. He sees the glass half full --- and thats a good thing. No guys, the sky is not falling. Lighten up a
little. Sharky
If there is no fishing in heaven, I am not going
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capn.sharky
Was this tread about the fish in the Sea of Cortez or about dumping on Skeet. Hey, he was there when some of you guys were still in pampers. He has
seen the fish count go up and go down. He sees the glass half full --- and thats a good thing. No guys, the sky is not falling. Lighten up a
little. Sharky |
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motoged
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No fish? Fewer fish?
It's kinda like when the resources are gone or seriously depleted, no one calls you up to instal sprinklers.
I guess we could blame the liberals.
Or the capitalist corporations who don't give a sh#t about anything except grabbing the biggest handful they can for as long as they can.
Occupy that thought for a minute !
Don't believe everything you think....
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Skeet/Loreto
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Question:
Why is it that none of those "Cry Baby Sierra Clubs Nuts" have obtained a Vessel and gone to the Sea of Cortez and Investigated the "Truth" about the
Fishing.???
Yes there has been a decline in certain Areas such as Loreto due to several reasons, the Major reason is there are not that many SportFisherman going
out and bringing in reports of the fishing.
The cycle of fishing was disturbed by the massive taking of the Squid out of several areas. It caused the Fish to move out and away from Shore to
deeper Water.
It is caused in certain area of the Massive taking of Sardines and other bait fish by three or four Boats.
It would take a 1,000 Boats across the Mouth of the Sea to stop the Cycle of fish going and coming.
The Fish are There Come on Down and Catch some??
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
No fish? Fewer fish?
It's kinda like when the resources are gone or seriously depleted, no one calls you up to instal sprinklers.
I guess we could blame the liberals.
Or the capitalist corporations who don't give a sh#t about anything except grabbing the biggest handful they can for as long as they can.
Occupy that thought for a minute ! |
Less than a minute my friend...
In the case of us in the home improvement business, the government destroyed the resources by their manipulating the normal and natural activities of
the home lending institutions (see Barney Frank and Chris Dodd f'ing-up the banks with their "everyone deserves a home" BS).
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Pompano
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Motoged...I'm gonna think about Baja.
Think of the crooked liberals or the crooked conservatives?
Naw...would spoil my breakfast.
Much more important is Baja:
...we need to bring back the totoaba..
..buy lots of limpet mines. 
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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wilderone
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Skeet, educate yourself:
http://www.seawatch.org/newsroom/proposed_regulations_effect...
http://geo-mexico.com/?p=3546
http://www.mexconnect.com/articles/3157-overfishing-in-the-s...
http://www.bajalife.com/v4pg58.htm
http://www.sfbg.com/39/36/news_sea_of_cortez.html
http://fire.biol.wwu.edu/trent/alles/Sea_of_Cortez.pdf
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durrelllrobert
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| Quote: | Originally posted by vgabndo
Environmentalist protections saved our buddy the Brown Pelican. It came off the ESL in 2008. Ron Le Valley Photo |
...so the Sierra Club is responsible for their comeback and the brown pelicans had nothing to do with it themselves?
Bob Durrell
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Skeet/Loreto
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Wildone:
Your Posts of Internet websites is not EDUCATION!! Most if not all of that stuff is Bull Puckey put forth by People who have never been on the Sea of
Cortez!!!
I will stack my 40 years fishing the Sea and making observations from the Education of an Investigator aganist all of that Bull.
You just do not understand that you have to get out on that Water, day afte Day, watch the Birds, observe the changes in the Water, dive around the
islands, talk to the old time mesican Fisherman, in other words be a Part of it and be honest about what you see.
Do not depend on a bunch of Monkey Butt Sierra Club Type College Students to tell you "Like it is????
Still no One has Answered the Question::
Where are all the Sardines that you see in the Photos coming from?????????????
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Still no One has Answered the Question::
Where are all the Sardines that you see in the Photos coming from????????????? |
the sardines evolved from the same single cell organism that you evolved from.
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wessongroup
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As you requested .... Where have all the sardines gone... isn't there a song like that ...
I love Skeeter... he has a position and isn't afraid to PUT IT UP and defend it ... that's what it's all about IMHO .. I like to fun with Skeeter...
and that's all it is to me... joking around about various issues .. which have been real problem solvers for us all .... make a living, rise kids,
save for your future and our country's ... and serve in defense of same when needed... as an American
Here's a guy, who did much the same thing... He had his own "idea's" on sardines too... and his ideas are now the basis for the return of same ...
Sorry Skeeter, learned about this guy in Marine Biology class, (1969) from extra reading ... he was my kinda of scientist ... "Ed Ricketts was a
beer-drinking, philosophizing, skirt-chasing col- lege dropout".... with good idea's...
So hang in there all ... think some of you are awfully close ........ given this outline on this fella's lifestyle ...
"More than a half-century after Rick- etts’s death, sardines have at last returned to the northeastern Pacific. “The Mon- terey fishery was built on
some good year classes that came in the early 1930s, when sea surface temperatures were warm enough for sardines to reach high pro- ductivity zones
off of California, Ore- gon, and Washington,” explains Richard Parrish, a fisheries biologist who helped build the model that is now used to man- age
the reborn sardine industry. The model sets harvest quotas based on esti- mates of existing sardine biomass and on sea surface temperatures known to
affect sardine reproduction and survival.
It’s an updated version of a concept advocated by Ricketts and by California Department of Fish and Game biolo- gists in the 1930s, which was never
im- plemented before the sardine crash."
http://www.sharonlevy.net/PDFs/BioScience%20Cannery%20Row.pd...
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mtgoat666
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spurious info from college educated know nothings!
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Still no One has Answered the Question::
Where are all the Sardines that you see in the Photos coming from????????????? |
the sardines evolved from the same single cell organism that you evolved from. |
here is another bunch of baloney from those dang college educated know nothings:
The Pacific sardine (Sardinops sagax), a small, pelagic plankton-feeding fish, reproduces
rapidly and prolifically. Pacific sardines supported the United States’ largest and most
lucrative commercial fishery from the 1910s through the 1940s. Sardine stocks then
entered a steep decline, probably due to natural oceanographic cycles: fossil evidence
suggests that Pacific sardines have experienced such “boom-and-bust” cycles about every
60 years over the last 1,700 years, independent of fishing. In any case, the U.S. fishery
collapsed in the 1950s and commercial fishing ceased altogether in the 1960s. However,
since the 1970s, the Pacific sardine has rebounded, and currently enjoys excellent
abundance and a high growth rate. California fisheries managers consider the resource
recovered, although managers note that the developing sardine fishery must be carefully
regulated to avoid any impact on the ongoing expansion of the population. Management
is attentive and proactive, with an FMP in place and an innovative system of catch quotas
based on environmental conditions. In 2001, NMFS listed Pacific sardines as "not
overfished" and "with no overfishing occurring" throughout Washington, Oregon, and
California. In British Columbia, the northern edge of the recovering population’s range,
Canada’s DFO considers the sardine “not at risk”. Pacific sardines are usually taken with
purse-seines, a method that, in this fishery, produces little bycatch and negligable habitat
damage.
source: Seafood Watch® Pacific Sardine Report
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Same college geniuses who said we were going into an ice age in the 70's...
Then said we going into global warming in the 90's...
and now we know that warming and cooling are NORMAL and have been for centuries... even long before 'evil' fossil fuels kept us alive in the winter.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
[the sardines evolved from the same single cell organism that you evolved from. |
Gracias mtg, There is nothing wrong with a
thread EVOLVING, there is that damn word again,
into something other than what the original intent
was, DK your boy GW gave this housing mess traction
6 yrs back. Put the blame where it belongs
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