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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 12:25 PM


Bottom Line------You can't fool Mother Nature.
Remember that old commercial?? Was that Thunder??????:o
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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 12:33 PM


This is something I can agree with!!

The Sardines keep coming back, so Why do the Nuts keep Crying" The Sea of Cortez is Ruined"?????'

I have Observed the taking of Sardines for Years , just like in the Photos, yet they keep coming back, time after time??

It maybe that some of this Bull Puckey is designed to "Scare people'', get them to sent theri Money so theses Nuts can buy more DOPE. Could that be possible??
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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 12:35 PM


Notice! Notice!!

Skeet/loreto has just been awarded "The Fisherman of the Centruy"" by the Masterbaiters Club of America.

Thanks to all who voted for me.

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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 12:40 PM


Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
Quote:
Originally posted by mtgoat666
[the sardines evolved from the same single cell organism that you evolved from.





Gracias mtg, There is nothing wrong with a
thread EVOLVING, there is that damn word again,
into something other than what the original intent
was, DK your boy GW gave this housing mess traction
6 yrs back. Put the blame where it belongs


Lots of "blame"------does little good---------need to correct the situation. Obama appears to be purpetuating it--------Bush & Team (& others) did warn about the apparent impending disaster---------but yes, lots of blame including mainly the public who bought into this pipe-dream. Always extremes both good and bad, in a Free Market or Democracy (Republic)---------that is what makes us GREAT!!!! the chance to prosper, and yes, make mistakes. Long term we are sure prospering if you look around with an eye couched in optimism.

Argueing is a waste of time.

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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 12:41 PM


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It maybe that some of this Bull Puckey is designed to "Scare people'', get them to sent theri Money so theses Nuts can buy more DOPE. Could that be possible??


exactly! at the end of the day it's all about people craving dope!

do you think we could genetically engineer a sardine that yields a high when smoked or snorted? could smart college educated gal cross breed cannabis with sardine? would the democrats fund that scientific research? you bet they would!
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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 12:56 PM


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Nuts can buy more DOPE.




Couldn't have said it better, those dope smoking left
wing hippie
conservation/evironmentalists, give me a good redblooded
Alcoholic anytime
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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 01:08 PM


I would like to suggest to one and All for you to read "The Sea of Cortez" by Ray Cannon then get a copy of the Log from the Sea of Cortez and read it

I bought my copy of the Log from the Sea of Cortez by Steinbeck-Ricketts at the Entrance to the Campus at Berkerley.{i was afraid to get too close as some of those nekid Motorcycle riders would get me!!}

I used both of those books as my guides while Fishing the Sea.
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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 01:25 PM


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I would like to suggest to one and All for you to read "The Sea of Cortez" by Ray Cannon then get a copy of the Log from the Sea of Cortez and read it

I bought my copy of the Log from the Sea of Cortez by Steinbeck-Ricketts at the Entrance to the Campus at Berkerley.{i was afraid to get too close as some of those nekid Motorcycle riders would get me!!}

I used both of those books as my guides while Fishing the Sea.








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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 05:08 PM


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Do not depend on a bunch of Monkey Butt Sierra Club Type College Students to tell you "Like it is????




Perhaps the The Jacques Cousteau Observatories in Baja are Monkey Butts too?




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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 05:14 PM


They know what chains to pull to get more funding... Calling something a crisis will help.

Saying the the world was heating up and polar bears no longer had ice to sleep on really worked at raising billions and fooling the masses.




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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 05:38 PM


DK For Pres!:o:o:o:o :fire:

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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 05:42 PM


Geeeezzzuuuuuzzzz,
This thread has demonstrated quite well the theory of devolution:barf:

Wonder what that family in Agua Verde is up to these days?




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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 05:52 PM


Steinbeck and Ricketts were TIDEPOOLING Skeet. Its a great yarn and an interesting perspective, but the book is pseudoscientific and those conditions were 70 years ago.

Your blanket dismissal of science in favor of your personal recollections is an unfair fight. Sorry, we'll get more scientists.:no:




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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 06:41 PM


I strongly urge anyone to go to the Sea of Cortez with a boat and start investigating the Fishing{Not just within a days ride of Loreto}, You doubfull Nuts should go out to Mercanaries Reedf{35 miles on 030 out of Loreto} and come back and tell the Truth about what you found and Observed.

If the fishing is so good why do you need to go 35 miles ( about 1/2 the way to the mainland) to catch fish? When I was at Puerto Escondido in 1973 they were catching Dorado off the pier on the entrance, has that happened recently?
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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 06:48 PM


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I strongly urge anyone to go to the Sea of Cortez with a boat and start investigating the Fishing{Not just within a days ride of Loreto}, You doubfull Nuts should go out to Mercanaries Reedf{35 miles on 030 out of Loreto} and come back and tell the Truth about what you found and Observed.

If the fishing is so good why do you need to go 35 miles ( about 1/2 the way to the mainland) to catch fish? When I was at Puerto Escondido in 1973 they were catching Dorado off the pier on the entrance, has that happened recently?


In July, 1973 I saw a yellowtail caught from the pier at Puerto Escondido... that was amazing... then a few months later, Hwy. 1 was completed and a paved highway funneled anyone and any kind of car south.

I say, rip up the damn highway... the real fish killer!!! :?: :wow: :lol:

(Things change... and you can blame almost anything you want to serve your agenda) :light:




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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 07:05 PM
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hola, please excuse my grammer......25 year's or so ,I came back to the santa cuz ca. harbor, around noon.then limit's were 5 fish per person(salmon).I was having a hard time getting full limet's,so was coming back to port, late.monterey is like most marine/lake place's,,the wind is calm in the mornig and building as the day wear's on. so Im pulling up to the ramp dock and and the boat that is about leave had 2 honey's on her,, so, I start the small talk& when I asked where their going,,they stated " were going out a couple miles take water sample's. we are marine boioigest..I almost fell outa my boat,1/8 mile out it was blowing 25 knots!.. book train/or with time on the water,,BIG difference! marine bio's can suck my ----- K&T

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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 07:21 PM


Capt. I see you edited your post. What did you edit? I am elated that you hang out down here in the southland -- now we have our very own Baja Sur Skeeter. You started your post by saying "Please excuse my grammar" then you slammed us with the worst. That's a helluva an idea. You know you're gonna kill the English language in the next few sentences so you apologize before hand! What a concept!

I don't fully understand any post you have made to date so your apologies are not worth ploughing through your mis placed thoughts. The last one will be the last one I bother with to look for the colorful old gent behind the garble.
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[*] posted on 12-20-2011 at 08:43 PM


Hola,I respectfully agree with you ....for if I argue,that would make TWO fool's,,merry Xmas all...K&T:lol::lol:
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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 07:35 AM


I am now 10% "stupider" for having read the last two pages of this thread. The ever brilliant Skeet surrounded by a galaxy of pseudo-intellectual super stars...Classic!
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[*] posted on 12-21-2011 at 08:52 AM


Arriving in Loreto in1967 I started fishing wigh Alvaro Murillo in his wooden Panga for $20 a Day staying at the Hotel Oasis for $9 a Day with 3 meals.
Caught all the fish we wanted in a short time. Also could catch yellowtail casting from the Shore{They were chasing Sierra in and out.
Spent 4 years at San Nicholas with the Enrique Murillo Family catching 25 Lb yellowtail from Shore. Then along comes the Feterlizer Boats taking all the Sierra. The yellowtail moved out and started feeding on Mackarel in Deep Water.

Later as the Park came in and lots of pressure was put on the Tourist Fisherman, they quict coming to the Loreto Area. Therefore there was not as many fish Reported.
The lack of fisherman, the taking of the Shrimp from the Bay all caused the yellows and the Dorado to change their area and Cycles. One of thos places where there are so many Fish is on the Reef 35 miles North of Loreto.

2 years ago I fished the Mulege Area and saw fishing like it had been 15 years prior. This past two years have shown some very large fish ans well as lots of them. I personally think many of the Pressured fish in the Sea has moved around to the pacific Side.

I watched many times when the Sardine Boats would come in and take the Sardines, yet here they are ,back in the Millions and sure enough here is a Boat to catch some more

Much of the time the Sport Fisherman of today, depends on Electronic Devices to find his Fish instead of watching the Birds, reading the Wind and Waves, etc. They will go back to their GPS site of the last time and wonder what happened to the fish. Fish Move all over and in and out of the Sea of Cortez!!

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