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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 08:22 AM
An accident waiting to happen...


I have been subscribed to Ensenada.net for the last few months and they have some very informative news for the local Ensenada area..and also other national and international articles. This one this morning stated, "No emergency exits at Papas and Beer". As I remember, they were open for business the very next day after the fire.

Have you been in that place on the weekends? Its wall to wall people packed in like sardines...anyways...the news reports an "irregularity" in their safety regulations..

I have never tried barbequed sardines...but people...geez..this is an accident just WAITING to happen...only in Mexico...maybe close the place till they get emergency exits?
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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 11:22 AM


Packed on the Weekends? Must be the 3 day
Cruise Ship Passengers
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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 11:58 AM


...also an illegal 2000 liter propane tank on roof.



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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 12:17 PM


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...also an illegal 2000 liter propane tank on roof.


Judas Monster!!!!! That place is a BOMB waiting to go off!!!!

No thanks.

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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 04:51 PM


Emergency exits.....sometimes.

Propane tank on roof....possible.

MORDIDA....a must!

Just like getting out of traffic tickets.....a little $$ can make things easier for all. Isn't that how it works?
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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 05:10 PM


but isn't papas and beer completely open on the ocean side ? it has been eons since I went but I remember it as totally open with no walls ...




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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 05:14 PM


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but isn't papas and beer completely open on the ocean side ? it has been eons since I went but I remember it as totally open with no walls ...


Not this one, Blanca. Maybe Rosarito?? The Ensenada facility is two blocks off the water.
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thumbup.gif posted on 1-9-2012 at 05:42 PM
Disco inferno


Never been there, never intend going. None of my close friends or folks I would anticipate having an intelligent conversation with, no Nobel laureates, etc. would neither.

So, in the immortal words of The Trammps:

Burn Baby Burn!




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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 05:50 PM


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Never been there, never intend going. None of my close friends or folks I would anticipate having an intelligent conversation with, no Nobel laureates, etc. would neither.

So, in the immortal words of The Trammps:

Burn Baby Burn!


-----that's kinda harsh, Dave---------rah-rah-partiers have feelings, you know--------have you no heart???? :?:

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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 05:53 PM


Its Mexico. You want safe? Go to Applebees in your (USA) hometown.
People seem to forget: Mexico (all of Central America!) isn't a first-world country. They have no OSHA, MSHA, FDA, USDA, NTSB, EPA, NHSF, MADD, Etc, etc, ETC. It's different there. That's why we go. Remember? You take the good with the bad or stay away. Personal safety in Mexico is pretty much just that. You are largely responsible for your own safety in Mexico, or India, or Cambodia or, well, pretty much everywhere. Well except in the USA and parts of Europe where citizens have relinquished the responsibility to the Gov't.
I am an electrician and the power distribution equipment I see in Mexico just AMAZES me. I think to myself, well, I'll bet kids here learn real early to not touch THAT stuff!
Papas and Beer is unsafe? Stay the heck out of there, I say. H.




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[*] posted on 1-9-2012 at 06:04 PM
papas and beer


Hola, I went their once and for me,,did not care,like,or see what the hell is speical about the sh--hole,except they do a hell good job on the adervertaising,,seen sticker's, all over,,but that',,s my one centovo's worth !!!!! K&T :cool:
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[*] posted on 1-10-2012 at 12:13 PM


As we all know, liability, as we know it, doesn't exist
in Mex. Simply walking down the sidewalk dodging
the missing/open water meter covers takes
concentration. But their approach to the problem is something that can't be argued, if 1 was to to step
into 1 of those missing covers,
their reaction would be
'why didn't you see it and aviod it',
can't argue with that. Refreshing in it's own way,
that in Mex you are RESPONSIBLE for your own safety

[Edited on 1-10-2012 by sancho]
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[*] posted on 1-10-2012 at 12:22 PM


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Originally posted by sancho
As we all know, liability, as we know it, doesn't exist
in Mex. Simply walking down the sidewalk dodging
the missing/open water meter covers takes
concentration. But their approach to the problem is something that can't be argued, if 1 was to to step
into 1 of those missing covers,
their reaction would be
'why didn't you see it and aviod it'
can't argue with that

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[*] posted on 1-10-2012 at 07:16 PM
Lack of lawyers..


Its not the lack of lawyers that's the problem..its the lack of lawyers that don't make deals with the opponents..everyone knows in Mexico that if you need an attorney in one city you better darn make sure you go to another city for representation...
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Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote:
Originally posted by sancho
As we all know, liability, as we know it, doesn't exist
in Mex. Simply walking down the sidewalk dodging
the missing/open water meter covers takes
concentration. But their approach to the problem is something that can't be argued, if 1 was to to step
into 1 of those missing covers,
their reaction would be
'why didn't you see it and aviod it'
can't argue with that

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[*] posted on 1-11-2012 at 05:32 AM


Statistically, wouldn't it be safe to go there for a quick beer, say 5 minutes, then out?

Do they still do body shots there?
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[*] posted on 1-11-2012 at 06:22 AM


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...this is an accident just WAITING to happen...only in Mexico


Actually, this is a pretty common situation in much of the developing world. I remember that "accident" happening in Thailand a few years back, with the results being quite a few people dying in the blaze.




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[*] posted on 1-11-2012 at 07:11 AM
5 minutes out..


Umm..if you could GET out...that place is so packed that it would be like a cattle stampede in case of fire and someone would most likely get trampled in the process...Hussong's is much easier to escape from...
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Statistically, wouldn't it be safe to go there for a quick beer, say 5 minutes, then out?

Do they still do body shots there?
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[*] posted on 1-13-2012 at 08:55 AM


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Originally posted by surfer jim
Emergency exits.....sometimes.

Propane tank on roof....possible.

MORDIDA....a must!

Just like getting out of traffic tickets.....a little $$ can make things easier for all. Isn't that how it works?


Except for those who die regularly because of the lack of code enforcement in third world countries ... :fire:




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 08:46 AM


Folks, you keep forgetting the obvious: It ain't the United States. I understand wanting to fix every single thing for every single person in the world. Noble concept indeed. For we fat folks in the USA to live the lifestyle in which we have become accustomed to, someone else somewhere must give it up. That is the way of the (Capitalist) world. True story. You're worried about a restaurant / night club, whatever Papas and Beer is, but in the scale of things, this is nothing. All over the world, as we sip our mocha chai half caff lattes, thousands of people are dying in droves of curable diseases, starvation, war, car crashes, murder, etc. etc. And you want to start with Papas and Beer? On the scale of Threat to Humanity I'd guess statistically its right at about ZERO. You're expending a lot of valuable energy on nothing whatsoever.
I'm not saying that a building made of tin and wood with a sub-standard kitchen, cooking "food" in vats of boiling grease (THAT'S probably a greater threat, long-term!), lacking fire suppression and having limited ingress and most importantly egress is not dangerous. Of course it is. I'm saying that Mexico, with its proximity to the USA, is probably at or near the top of the list of safest 3rd world countries on the planet.
Do you want to single out and shut down Papas & Beer? As if they are the worst offenders? Two words: Un Likely. Modern societal protection of the People takes MONEY and lots of it. Ask any county official in the USA trying to fund their overblown community services.
I'd like to thank the kind doctor for the warning on the overcrowded Papas & Beer and leave it at that. I'll stay out of there. I wish things in 3rd world countries were different too. That's not the reality today. H.




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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 09:13 AM


Don't waste your time worrying about something you can't control, and don't expend more energy on somebody else's problem than they do.



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