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EnsenadaDr
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An accident waiting to happen...
I have been subscribed to Ensenada.net for the last few months and they have some very informative news for the local Ensenada area..and also other
national and international articles. This one this morning stated, "No emergency exits at Papas and Beer". As I remember, they were open for
business the very next day after the fire.
Have you been in that place on the weekends? Its wall to wall people packed in like sardines...anyways...the news reports an "irregularity" in their
safety regulations..
I have never tried barbequed sardines...but people...geez..this is an accident just WAITING to happen...only in Mexico...maybe close the place till
they get emergency exits?
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sancho
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Packed on the Weekends? Must be the 3 day
Cruise Ship Passengers
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durrelllrobert
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...also an illegal 2000 liter propane tank on roof.
Bob Durrell
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
...also an illegal 2000 liter propane tank on roof. |
Judas Monster!!!!! That place is a BOMB waiting to go off!!!!
No thanks.
Barry
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surfer jim
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Emergency exits.....sometimes.
Propane tank on roof....possible.
MORDIDA....a must!
Just like getting out of traffic tickets.....a little $$ can make things easier for all. Isn't that how it works?
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BajaBlanca
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but isn't papas and beer completely open on the ocean side ? it has been eons since I went but I remember it as totally open with no walls ...
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DENNIS
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Quote: | Originally posted by BajaBlanca
but isn't papas and beer completely open on the ocean side ? it has been eons since I went but I remember it as totally open with no walls ...
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Not this one, Blanca. Maybe Rosarito?? The Ensenada facility is two blocks off the water.
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Dave
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Disco inferno
Never been there, never intend going. None of my close friends or folks I would anticipate having an intelligent conversation with, no Nobel
laureates, etc. would neither.
So, in the immortal words of The Trammps:
Burn Baby Burn!
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
Never been there, never intend going. None of my close friends or folks I would anticipate having an intelligent conversation with, no Nobel
laureates, etc. would neither.
So, in the immortal words of The Trammps:
Burn Baby Burn! |
-----that's kinda harsh, Dave---------rah-rah-partiers have feelings, you know--------have you no heart???? 
Barry
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ElCazadorAZ
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Its Mexico. You want safe? Go to Applebees in your (USA) hometown.
People seem to forget: Mexico (all of Central America!) isn't a first-world country. They have no OSHA, MSHA, FDA, USDA, NTSB, EPA, NHSF, MADD, Etc,
etc, ETC. It's different there. That's why we go. Remember? You take the good with the bad or stay away. Personal safety in Mexico is pretty much just
that. You are largely responsible for your own safety in Mexico, or India, or Cambodia or, well, pretty much everywhere. Well except in the USA and
parts of Europe where citizens have relinquished the responsibility to the Gov't.
I am an electrician and the power distribution equipment I see in Mexico just AMAZES me. I think to myself, well, I'll bet kids here learn real early
to not touch THAT stuff!
Papas and Beer is unsafe? Stay the heck out of there, I say. H.
"If we're all thinking alike, somebody's not thinking." Gen. George S. Patton
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papas and beer
Hola, I went their once and for me,,did not care,like,or see what the hell is speical about the sh--hole,except they do a hell good job on the
adervertaising,,seen sticker's, all over,,but that',,s my one centovo's worth !!!!! K&T
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sancho
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As we all know, liability, as we know it, doesn't exist
in Mex. Simply walking down the sidewalk dodging
the missing/open water meter covers takes
concentration. But their approach to the problem is something that can't be argued, if 1 was to to step
into 1 of those missing covers,
their reaction would be
'why didn't you see it and aviod it',
can't argue with that. Refreshing in it's own way,
that in Mex you are RESPONSIBLE for your own safety
[Edited on 1-10-2012 by sancho]
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Woooosh
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Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
As we all know, liability, as we know it, doesn't exist
in Mex. Simply walking down the sidewalk dodging
the missing/open water meter covers takes
concentration. But their approach to the problem is something that can't be argued, if 1 was to to step
into 1 of those missing covers,
their reaction would be
'why didn't you see it and aviod it'
can't argue with that |
The lack of lawyers is a mixed-blessing
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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EnsenadaDr
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Lack of lawyers..
Its not the lack of lawyers that's the problem..its the lack of lawyers that don't make deals with the opponents..everyone knows in Mexico that if you
need an attorney in one city you better darn make sure you go to another city for representation... Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
As we all know, liability, as we know it, doesn't exist
in Mex. Simply walking down the sidewalk dodging
the missing/open water meter covers takes
concentration. But their approach to the problem is something that can't be argued, if 1 was to to step
into 1 of those missing covers,
their reaction would be
'why didn't you see it and aviod it'
can't argue with that |
The lack of lawyers is a mixed-blessing |
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MitchMan
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Statistically, wouldn't it be safe to go there for a quick beer, say 5 minutes, then out?
Do they still do body shots there?
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Bajatripper
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Quote: | ...this is an accident just WAITING to happen...only in Mexico |
Actually, this is a pretty common situation in much of the developing world. I remember that "accident" happening in Thailand a few years back, with
the results being quite a few people dying in the blaze.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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EnsenadaDr
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5 minutes out..
Umm..if you could GET out...that place is so packed that it would be like a cattle stampede in case of fire and someone would most likely get trampled
in the process...Hussong's is much easier to escape from... Quote: | Originally posted by MitchMan
Statistically, wouldn't it be safe to go there for a quick beer, say 5 minutes, then out?
Do they still do body shots there? |
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CaboRon
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Quote: | Originally posted by surfer jim
Emergency exits.....sometimes.
Propane tank on roof....possible.
MORDIDA....a must!
Just like getting out of traffic tickets.....a little $$ can make things easier for all. Isn't that how it works? |
Except for those who die regularly because of the lack of code enforcement in third world countries ...
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ElCazadorAZ
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Folks, you keep forgetting the obvious: It ain't the United States. I understand wanting to fix every single thing for every single person in the
world. Noble concept indeed. For we fat folks in the USA to live the lifestyle in which we have become accustomed to, someone else somewhere must give
it up. That is the way of the (Capitalist) world. True story. You're worried about a restaurant / night club, whatever Papas and Beer is, but in the
scale of things, this is nothing. All over the world, as we sip our mocha chai half caff lattes, thousands of people are dying in droves of curable
diseases, starvation, war, car crashes, murder, etc. etc. And you want to start with Papas and Beer? On the scale of Threat to Humanity I'd guess
statistically its right at about ZERO. You're expending a lot of valuable energy on nothing whatsoever.
I'm not saying that a building made of tin and wood with a sub-standard kitchen, cooking "food" in vats of boiling grease (THAT'S probably a greater
threat, long-term!), lacking fire suppression and having limited ingress and most importantly egress is not dangerous. Of course it is. I'm saying
that Mexico, with its proximity to the USA, is probably at or near the top of the list of safest 3rd world countries on the planet.
Do you want to single out and shut down Papas & Beer? As if they are the worst offenders? Two words: Un Likely. Modern societal protection of the
People takes MONEY and lots of it. Ask any county official in the USA trying to fund their overblown community services.
I'd like to thank the kind doctor for the warning on the overcrowded Papas & Beer and leave it at that. I'll stay out of there. I wish things in
3rd world countries were different too. That's not the reality today. H.
"If we're all thinking alike, somebody's not thinking." Gen. George S. Patton
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bajaguy
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Don't waste your time worrying about something you can't control, and don't expend more energy on somebody else's problem than they do.
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