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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 10:01 AM


Interesting discussion.

It is a fact that more lives have been saved over the time of human existance by improved sanitation than all of the medicine ever developed.

It is also true that humans respond to crisis and regulation of something generally does not occur until a major tragedy happens and the need for some form of regulation becomes obvious.

I have noticed in my travels throughout Mexico, mainland and Baja, that hand sanitation has improved since the Swine Flu outbreak. Notice that alcohol gel is now everywhere in Mexico.

I remember the very year that plastic bags were introduced into Mexico and the next year they were scattered like sand accross the landscape. There is only now some dawning awareness of the pollution and problems these bags create. Change happens over time, sometimes a very LONG time, but the only constant is change.

Very interesting discussion of freedom/regulation in this thread. I too feel freedom in Mexico that I don't feel here but there are indeed trade offs.

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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 10:10 AM
No change until disaster happens...


Yes, I agree, but what about the smallpox pandemic, which from 1520-1527 killed millions of native inhabitants of Mexico. Introduced at Veracruz with the arrival of Panfilo de Narvaez on April 23, 1520 & was credited with the victory of Cortes over the Aztec empire at Tenochtitlan (present-day Mexico City) in 1521. It killed the Inca ruler, Huayna Capac, & 200,000 others & destroys the Incan Empire. You would have thought they would have learned a long time ago.
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Interesting discussion. It is a fact that more lives have been saved over the time of human existance by improved sanitation than all of the medicine ever developed.

It is also true that humans respond to crisis and regulation of something generally does not occur until a major tragedy happens and the need for some form of regulation becomes obvious.

I have noticed in my travels throughout Mexico, mainland and Baja, that hand sanitation has improved since the Swine Flu outbreak. Notice that alcohol gel is now everywhere in Mexico.

I remember the very year that plastic bags were introduced into Mexico and the next year they were scattered like sand accross the landscape. There is only now some dawning awareness of the pollution and problems these bags create. Change happens over time, sometimes a very LONG time, but the only constant is change.

Very interesting discussion of freedom/regulation in this thread. I too feel freedom in Mexico that I don't feel here but there are indeed trade offs.

Iflyfish


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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 10:21 AM


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Yes, I agree, but what about the bubonic plague, which from 1520-1527 killed millions of native inhabitants of Mexico. Introduced at Veracruz with the arrival of Panfilo de Narvaez on April 23, 1520 & was credited with the victory of Cortes over the Aztec empire at Tenochtitlan (present-day Mexico City) in 1521. It killed the Inca ruler, Huayna Capac, & 200,000 others & destroys the Incan Empire. You would have thought they would have learned a long time ago.
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Interesting discussion. It is a fact that more lives have been saved over the time of human existance by improved sanitation than all of the medicine ever developed.

It is also true that humans respond to crisis and regulation of something generally does not occur until a major tragedy happens and the need for some form of regulation becomes obvious.

I have noticed in my travels throughout Mexico, mainland and Baja, that hand sanitation has improved since the Swine Flu outbreak. Notice that alcohol gel is now everywhere in Mexico.

I remember the very year that plastic bags were introduced into Mexico and the next year they were scattered like sand accross the landscape. There is only now some dawning awareness of the pollution and problems these bags create. Change happens over time, sometimes a very LONG time, but the only constant is change.

Very interesting discussion of freedom/regulation in this thread. I too feel freedom in Mexico that I don't feel here but there are indeed trade offs.

Iflyfish


You are correct about the plague, killed nearly half of Europe also. It of course wasn't the Conquestadores who brought the plague, it was the fleas on the rats that rode on the ships that brought this devistation to the New World.

At the time no one knew that rats carried this dread disease, in fact the germ theory had not yet been conceptualized. The Gods were mostly blamed, sanitation or vector control was not even a consideration.

I am not discounting the importance of medicine for the treatment of disease. I am alive today because of the miracle of modern medical practice. I am saying that when they learn how to keep mosquitos from carrying malaria and dengue fever, then the millions who die from it will be around to join this discussion.

I appreciate your thoughful posts.

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[*] posted on 1-15-2012 at 04:19 PM


EnsenadaDR: Have you contacted the owners of Papas & Beer regarding the glaring safety hazard? The local police and health authorities? Are you delegating that to someone here on BN? Please tell us: What exactly is your point? H



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