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Home Depot Mexico...too good to be true??
I just bought myself my FIRST propane gas grill...and love it...however, I needed a tank of propane so I hurried on over to the Home Depot in
Ensenada....I wasn't familiar with the type of cylinder I needed so I asked a few of the workers there with the orange aprons. One said I needed a
"minita". I had showed him a dimension of about 8 inches by 4 inches with my arms. So I paid my money and went outside to get the gas. The thing
was HUGE!! Went back in, and had the security guy hanging over my shoulder at the customer service desk while I received my refund. Then someone got
me a propane tank, price: 155 pesos or about $11 American. The price seemed a little high to me, so yesterday, when I was in the States, I went to
Home Depot Chula Vista. The tanks were $3 a piece, the SAME ones!! The lady there mentioned that Home Depot has no control over prices or inventory
over Home Depots in other countries. Wow, again, buyers beware!! (yeah, I know what you are thinking, I bought 4 tanks!!)
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depending on the size of your grill, i'm thinking everyone uses those "HUGE" tanks. the little caguamas are for camping stoves and lanterns.
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Gas Grills 101
From the research I have been doing, propane is the only way to go for grills...from what I understand they don't sell propane to fill up tanks down
here...is that correct? The articles I read said that any other gas like natural gas doesn't burn as hot and you won't get that crispy layer on the
steak outside while keeping the inside done medium. Also, under pressure propane liquifies...which the other gases don't..makes for more compact
storage. (Yes, I do love facts like these...must be my love of science???0 | Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
depending on the size of your grill, i'm thinking everyone uses those "HUGE" tanks. the little caguamas are for camping stoves and lanterns.
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it's called LP GAS. liquid propane gas. ask around for GAS, not gasolina. two different things. and yes, it's everywhere.
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Without seeing the cylindar of gas, I'm betting it's yellow in color. At Home Depot in Ensenada, they sit on the shelf next to those of a different
color [forget which], and are Mapp Gas which is similar to propane, but burns hotter and is more expensive.
That said, it is true....the stuff cost a lot more "here" than "there."
http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/learning/mapp-gas-vs-propa...
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That said, it was a blue container which said PROPANA on it.At the home depot in US they had 2 containers, one yellow and one blue...the blue one was
actually for welding as the Blue one was in Mexico...but that was the only one they had in Mexico...actually the woman in the US told me both could be
used...but the Barbeque one I bought in the US was actually green for barbeque | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Without seeing the cylindar of gas, I'm betting it's yellow in color. At Home Depot in Ensenada, they sit on the shelf next to those of a different
color [forget which], and are Mapp Gas which is similar to propane, but burns hotter and is more expensive.
That said, it is true....the stuff cost a lot more "here" than "there."
http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/learning/mapp-gas-vs-propa... |
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The color doesn't indicate contents. I looked at them in Ensenada last week and Mapp Gass was in a yellow cylindar. It's not a designation....it's
the manufacturers choice of decor. That's all.
Both, Mapp and Propane, are used for soldering.
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you bought propane for a soldering gun...it WILL work
as for the cost of propane
WAY cheaper in mexico
a reg BBQ tank is $10usa to fill in mexico
in the california USA $40 to $60 exchange
huge differance
if you plan to cook with a campstove get an adapter to fit a BIGGER tank
the little ones last about 2 dinners
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Costs me about $18USD to fill a 5lb propane tank in Nevada.
Instead of buying those small camping tanks, do as Bob suggests and buy a new5LB tank in the states (make sure it has the dual threads - inside and
outside the valve), then go find a 6 foot propane hose and adapters for your BBQ or camping stove......check at Wal-Mart or any of the big sporting
goods stores or a propane dealer for the hose, regulator and fittings.
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also the little tiny ones freeze up if you use them too long at one time...then no propane comes out till they thaw
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And...if you need a lot of them:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mr-Heater-F276172-1-Pound-Disposable...
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Thanks so much!!!
I am not much of a handyman, but I will certainly find those adapters as suggested. What great suggestions you gave me, thanks so much... | Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
also the little tiny ones freeze up if you use them too long at one time...then no propane comes out till they thaw |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
From the research I have been doing, propane is the only way to go for grills...from what I understand they don't sell propane to fill up tanks down
here...is that correct? The articles I read said that any other gas like natural gas doesn't burn as hot and you won't get that crispy layer on the
steak outside while keeping the inside done medium. |
No, the opposite is true. Natural gas has more calories per pound than propane. About 10% more.
Methane has a gross heat of combustion of 23891 BTU/lb
Propane has a gross heat of combustion of 21653 BTU/lb.
And natural gas is much cheaper. But you cannot just switch from propane to natural gas in a barbeque and you need a pressure regulator to reduce
propane down to about 3-4psi and the jetting is different because of the difference in the btu's.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
also the little tiny ones freeze up if you use them too long at one time...then no propane comes out till they thaw |
If it freezes up, it is a tank of butane, not propane. Propane will vaporize easily down to around -48F. Butane remains a liquid and stops vaporizing
at 31F. The propane you buy is about 10% butane.
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Propane burns twice as hot as natural gas...
That's not what I read in my gas Barbeque aficionados article. They said that natural gas did not cook as well as propane because it did not get as
hot. Propane burns at 2500btu while natural gas burns at only 1012btu. Propane burns over 2 times hotter than natural gas.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_natural_gas_burn_hotter_than_... | Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
From the research I have been doing, propane is the only way to go for grills...from what I understand they don't sell propane to fill up tanks down
here...is that correct? The articles I read said that any other gas like natural gas doesn't burn as hot and you won't get that crispy layer on the
steak outside while keeping the inside done medium. |
No, the opposite is true. Natural gas has more calories per pound than propane. About 10% more.
Methane has a gross heat of combustion of 23891 BTU/lb
Propane has a gross heat of combustion of 21653 BTU/lb.
And natural gas is much cheaper. But you cannot just switch from propane to natural gas in a barbeque and you need a pressure regulator to reduce
propane down to about 3-4psi and the jetting is different because of the difference in the btu's. |
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Propane vs Butane
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-propa...
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"No, propane burns at 2500btu while natural gas burns at only 1012btu. Propane burns over 2 times hotter than natural gas."
That statement is totally nonsensical. Anyone with knowledge in the area could tell you that. A BTU is a measure of energy, about 1055 joules. If
Methane has 23,891 BTU/lb and propane has 21,653, then menthane has 10% more energy than propane.
The temperature of your barbeque is a function of HOW MUCH energy you apply to it. Sheesh!
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Very much appreciate your comments...
I very much appreciate splitting hairs..as I find it entertaining as well..but can we get some reference quotes here?? | Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
"No, propane burns at 2500btu while natural gas burns at only 1012btu. Propane burns over 2 times hotter than natural gas."
That statement is totally nonsensical. Anyone with knowledge in the area could tell you that. A BTU is a measure of energy, about 1055 joules. If
Methane has 23,891 BTU/lb and propane has 21,653, then menthane has 10% more energy than propane.
The temperature of your barbeque is a function of HOW MUCH energy you apply to it. Sheesh! |
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The giver that I am.....
I will be heading North from Loreto in a couple of weeks and prepared to go out of my way and be the official tester of the new grill and propane. I
am sure that you would want another opinion on how good the food tastes! 
That's me, ready to sacrifice my precious time for a meal!! I'm such a food ****.
[Edited on 1-15-2012 by Howard]
[Edited on 1-15-2012 by Howard]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
you bought propane for a soldering gun...it WILL work
as for the cost of propane
WAY cheaper in mexico
a reg BBQ tank is $10usa to fill in mexico
in the california USA $40 to $60 exchange
huge differance
if you plan to cook with a campstove get an adapter to fit a BIGGER tank
the little ones last about 2 dinners |
I pay $14 for a five gallon refill in San Diego. The exchanges run $20ish, not $40-$60.
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