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EnsenadaDr
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Free lunch...
OK Howard you're on..however Dennis has got the killer view while I live in the center of town...so if its ok with him I can bring the Barbie to his
place and we can roast the Mexican hot dogs with bacon and marinated Hawaiian steaks there!!! | Quote: | Originally posted by Howard
I will be heading North from Loreto in a couple of weeks and prepared to go out of my way and be the official tester of the new grill and propane. I
am sure that you would want another opinion on how good the food tastes! 
That's me, ready to sacrifice my precious time for a meal!! I'm such a food ****.
[Edited on 1-15-2012 by Howard]
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Bob and Susan
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oddjob
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
you bought propane for a soldering gun...it WILL work
as for the cost of propane
WAY cheaper in mexico
a reg BBQ tank is $10usa to fill in mexico
in the california USA $40 to $60 exchange
huge differance
if you plan to cook with a campstove get an adapter to fit a BIGGER tank
the little ones last about 2 dinners |
I pay $14 for a five gallon refill in San Diego. The exchanges run $20ish, not $40-$60. |
i guess you havent been to lowes lately...
propane has gone WAY up when you exchange
i'll have a picture next trip to the border
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Woooosh
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Why make it so hard? My house has a huge propane tank but I also have a 20lb tank for a space heater. Same size propane tank you would find under a
standard USA BBQ. The Star Gas guy in the big truck uses the same hose to fill both tanks. No extra trip needed.
BTW: Home Depot in Mexico prices include the VAT. There really aren't many bargains at the Home Depots in Mexico, even with the 13:1 peso rate. The
HD Rosarito roof materials are double the price as HD in Chula Vista. Even so, it's still your best chance at finding something "familiar" to finish
a project or make a repair.
[Edited on 1-15-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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wessongroup
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That is just so insane... for the people of Mexico .. 
Like they can afford it... to start with...
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Oddjob
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
| Quote: | Originally posted by Oddjob
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
you bought propane for a soldering gun...it WILL work
as for the cost of propane
WAY cheaper in mexico
a reg BBQ tank is $10usa to fill in mexico
in the california USA $40 to $60 exchange
huge differance
if you plan to cook with a campstove get an adapter to fit a BIGGER tank
the little ones last about 2 dinners |
I pay $14 for a five gallon refill in San Diego. The exchanges run $20ish, not $40-$60. |
i guess you havent been to lowes lately...
propane has gone WAY up when you exchange
i'll have a picture next trip to the border |
Why exchange your tank when you can just get it refilled? I can refill mine at 4 different places within one mile of my house.
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joerover
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where to buy gas
Between ave Riveroll and the dry creek bed is the place to buy gas for a stove or grill.
It is on Alisos (16th). North side of street. White building set back from the road. It costs 40 pesos to fill a small tank about the size of a
basket ball.
That is enough to two meals a day for a month. The metal tank seems to cost more in Mexico.
The gas to fill it costs less.
For hoses and adapters, there is a flea market near Miramar and Octava (8th and Miramar).
Open on weekends only.
the fat lady is breeding
which means
The fat ladys are breeding
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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Using a digital scale, an adapter hose and a freezer I refill my disposable cylinders. I freeze the empty cylinders, screw in the adapter hose into
the 20 lb pot, then turn it upside down. Connect the chilled cylinder open the valve then fill to 16 oz. 4 lbs per gallon around eighty cents a fill.
Thirty years ago I filled thirty or so disposable cylinders for folks on a beach in Mexico and started a tiny business that managed to pay for the
tortillas.
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fish101
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You can purchase the hoses and adapters at most RV Supply or Camping World if your near one. If your in Loreto, stop by my place, as I still have
several extra hoses and fittings that I bring down for guests in the RV Park that have forgotten their hoses or adapters and you know!! You can't buy
them in any local hardward stores here.. WAHOO RV Supply in San Jose will also have what you need to convert to the larger propane tanks, so you can
get rid of those "small" containers of propane..
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EnsenadaDr
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Camping World...
Thanks...there is a Camping World in San Diego..I never had an occasion to go there but I will now..from what I am reading charcoal gives a better
flavor but for the difference I find the gas grill so much more convenient and time efficient, and the flavor was pretty good!!! | Quote: | Originally posted by fish101
You can purchase the hoses and adapters at most RV Supply or Camping World if your near one. If your in Loreto, stop by my place, as I still have
several extra hoses and fittings that I bring down for guests in the RV Park that have forgotten their hoses or adapters and you know!! You can't buy
them in any local hardward stores here.. WAHOO RV Supply in San Jose will also have what you need to convert to the larger propane tanks, so you can
get rid of those "small" containers of propane.. |
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Islandbuilder
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Good point lencho,
You need to confirm which gas your appliance is configured to burn. The jets differ between the two.
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by Mengano
The propane you buy is about 10% butane. |
Are you talking about Mexican LPG? I don't have any backup info,
but I've gotten the impression that's primarily butane (in most of Mexico, the higher vaporization temperature is not a problem).
By the way folks, an interesting trivia is that Propane and Butane are heavier than air, while your US piped-in natural gas (methane) is lighter. Why
care? Well, in a boat, say, leaking LPG will tend to "pool" down in the hull and other low spots rather than floating off into the atmosphere as
methane would. More dangerous in certain situations. |
While I have no idea what the differences are between propane and butane, one thing I did notice on my recent trip to California is that my sister's
gas stove will boil water much quicker than does our gas stove here in La Paz. I'm attributing that to the difference in energy between the two fuels
we use rather than a difference in stoves.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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aguachico
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Got 18 liters of propane for 90 pesos at Zeta yesterday. Not sure what the exchange at Home depot would be, but last time I did that it was arouund
$20-$25.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
While I have no idea what the differences are between propane and butane, |
I guess you weren't in a reading mood yesterday. I'll try again.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-propa...
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Dave
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too good to be true??
It's true.
The crap you buy at COSTCO in Mexico is crappier than the crap you buy at COSTCO in the U.S.
Especially the crappy TP and paper towels used to wipe up your crap.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
It's true.
The crap you buy at COSTCO in Mexico is crappier than the crap you buy at COSTCO in the U.S.
Especially the crappy TP and paper towels used to wipe up your crap. |
true
story.
If you really want to be mystified, buy some of the frozen food national products that have a picture of the ingredients on the package. If there is
any final resemblence between product and picture, send me your receipts and I'll reimburse you.
They haven't quite approached that "truth in advertising" thing as of yet.
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MrBillM
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BTW
Not that it's really important and may have already been mentioned here somewhere, But:
LP stands for "Liquefied Petroleum", rather than Liquid Propane. BOTH Butane and Propane are LP gases.
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
BOTH Butane and Propane are LP gases. |
bile:
"are?" Perhaps the correct verb is "may be." it's a matter of temperature and pressure. i will leave it to mengano/fulano to draw the TP diagram for
each gas.
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Mengano
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Just a little bit of trivia. Propane and butane are commonly used as the aerosol propellants in spray cans. They are even used in spray cans of food
products, like PAM. Although they are very flammable gases, they are non-toxic and not considered greenhouse gases.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Not that it's really important and may have already been mentioned here somewhere, But:
LP stands for "Liquefied Petroleum", rather than Liquid Propane. BOTH Butane and Propane are LP gases.
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It's been mentioned.
| Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
it's called LP GAS. liquid propane gas. |
Actually, that's "liquified petroleum gas," term which includes
propane, butane and others. Given the different characteristics of those gasses, the distinction could be important. |
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msteve1014
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For what it's worth, (not much), I work in a plant that separates the light hydrocarbons from the heavy ones in the gas that comes out of oil wells.
We sell methane as natural gas to So. Cal Gas. The real heavies are called gaso, are liquid at room temp. and pressure, and real nasty stuff. The
propane/butane we make is about 70/30...P/B. It gets blended with 99% propane to sell as the propane the public buys. I believe that must be at least
90% to be called propane in the states. We fill our own tanks with the 70/30, and I have seen no difference from the 90% you buy. I have used it in
BBQs, stoves and the refer. in my camper. No problem.
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