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interesting read .... there is definitely more to this story....
the mooch alarm went off for me too..... and move away from kids and grand kids?? running from something...... maybe just his reality.....
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I've seen it way too often, people coming down from the states overloaded with self-perceived talent, thinking they will "cut a fat hog" by offering
their skills to the expat community and expecting some type of blood loyalty only to receive a cold shoulder.
In the first place, expats in their own community here don't want to hire one of their own. They want to hire Pepe and Juan because that's who their
new peer group told them to hire. Talent doesn't mean squat, but a robust sense of Noblesse Oblige means everything.
Another thing....expats won't trust one of their own if there is any evidence of neediness. They'll wonder "why" in a hundred different ways.
I can only hope this couple can overcome these obstacles, for their own sake, but they sure picked a strange place to take on the challenge. If there
is a bustling expat community in San Blas, I would imagine a good share of them are in the same desperate boat.
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Dave
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Magic number is 5
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
They want to hire Pepe and Juan because that's who their new peer group told them to hire. |
They want to hire Pepe and Juan because they think they can get a days work out of them for 5 dollars and that they'll be pleased as punch to get it
and work extra hard. 
First thing a gringo told me [shouted] when I moved here was FIVE DOLLARS, FIVE DOLLARS... DON'T PAY MORE THAN FIVE DOLLARS! DON'T RUIN IT FOR THE
REST OF US!
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It is with some slight admiration that I write this comment, I do not know many of my friends or family who would sell everything they could and put
the rest in a van, leave family and friends and the comfortable existance to start over again in a new land, especially with $2000.00. Moochers?
possibly but who are we to call them that, we are not walking in their shoes.
I know that we have planned out pretty much to the penny what we will be able to have available to us when we relocate to BOLA. We have already
secured a home and boat to enable us to fish for our food. And have made some very comforting and supportive friends. I don't think I would like to
be as hand to mouth as the Pittmans were. To each their own....
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
First thing a gringo told me [shouted] when I moved here was FIVE DOLLARS, FIVE DOLLARS... DON'T PAY MORE THAN FIVE DOLLARS! DON'T RUIN IT FOR THE
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Jeeeezo...how many times have I heard that. Still do.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
I don't think I would like to be as hand to mouth as the Pittmans were. To each their own.... |
If it weren't for the illegal issues in the states, which I have strong feelings about, I wouldn't care less what they do, but I just won't live with
a double standard. That's just me......being me.
Here, in Punta Banda, there are a healthy number of expats who earn extra money in cottage industries, such as home cooked foods sold in a group store
on Fridays, and other means of generating income....Yoga.......Accupuncture and Art/Craft sales....to name a few.
I repell from this type of arrogance that tells one the law doesn't apply to him.
It does apply, but for lack of enforcement, it goes unheeded....and unrespected. I have a real problem with this. It makes me wonder why I pay the
expense to do it by the book........and they don't.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
I don't think I would like to be as hand to mouth as the Pittmans were. To each their own.... |
If it weren't for the illegal issues in the states, which I have strong feelings about, I wouldn't care less what they do, but I just won't live with
a double standard. That's just me......being me.
Here, in Punta Banda, there are a healthy number of expats who earn extra money in cottage industries, such as home cooked foods sold in a group store
on Fridays, and other means of generating income....Yoga.......Accupuncture and Art/Craft sales....to name a few.
I repell from this type of arrogance that tells one the law doesn't apply to him.
It does apply, but for lack of enforcement, it goes unheeded....and unrespected. I have a real problem with this. It makes me wonder why I pay the
expense to do it by the book........and they don't. |
Dennis, I am sorry if my comments upset you, it was not my intention and I was not being arrogant, I just meant that they are resposible for their
actions and I for mine, I am not their Keeper I follow the rules and expect others to be responsible.....my apologies for offending you.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
I don't think I would like to be as hand to mouth as the Pittmans were. To each their own.... |
If it weren't for the illegal issues in the states, which I have strong feelings about, I wouldn't care less what they do, but I just won't live with
a double standard. That's just me......being me.
Here, in Punta Banda, there are a healthy number of expats who earn extra money in cottage industries, such as home cooked foods sold in a group store
on Fridays, and other means of generating income....Yoga.......Accupuncture and Art/Craft sales....to name a few.
I repell from this type of arrogance that tells one the law doesn't apply to him.
It does apply, but for lack of enforcement, it goes unheeded....and unrespected. I have a real problem with this. It makes me wonder why I pay the
expense to do it by the book........and they don't. |
I dont only repell them ,they would truly starve before I subsidize one of them. case in point a local citizen that occupied that building where
they do buisness saved for several years and built a nice place across the street stands there with empty pockets and watches the illeagel activity go
on in his old spot
[Edited on 1-17-2012 by J.P.]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
Dennis, I am sorry if my comments upset you, it was not my intention and I was not being arrogant, I just meant that they are resposible for their
actions and I for mine, I am not their Keeper I follow the rules and expect others to be responsible.....my apologies for offending you.
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No...no offense at all. I wish I could champion the free spirit cause, as others here do, but I happen to be involved as one who is compromised by
the "F---It" attitude.
Baja ain't an "Occupy Zone." There are rules and regulations....even laws that guide our life here. People have to respect that....even if they don't
understand it.
Anyway...thanks for the clearance.
[Edited on 1-17-2012 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
Dennis, I am sorry if my comments upset you, it was not my intention and I was not being arrogant, I just meant that they are resposible for their
actions and I for mine, I am not their Keeper I follow the rules and expect others to be responsible.....my apologies for offending you.
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No...no offense at all. I wish I could champion the free spirit cause, as others here do, but I happen to be involved as one who is compromised by
the "F---It" attitude.
Baja ain't an "Occupy Zone." There are rules and regulations....even laws that guide our life here. People have to respect that....even if they don't
understand it.
Anyway...thanks for the clearance. |
 So glad we are good, I was sweating it there for a minute.
[Edited on 1-17-2012 by BajaNomad]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
I dont only repell them ,they would truly starve before I subsidize one of them. case in point a local citizen that occupied that building where
they do buisness saved for several years and built a nice place across the street stands there with empty pockets and watches the illeagel activity go
on in his old spot
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I saw that from day one, John. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now.
I made an effort to post my feelings of illegal business operations on the local PBBB board but was met with my normal deaf ear from the mods.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
So glad we are good, I was sweating it there for a minute.
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Frightening....isn't it.....your memories of the old DENNIS. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
I dont only repell them ,they would truly starve before I subsidize one of them. case in point a local citizen that occupied that building where
they do buisness saved for several years and built a nice place across the street stands there with empty pockets and watches the illeagel activity go
on in his old spot
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I saw that from day one, John. I didn't like it then, and I don't like it now.
I made an effort to post my feelings of illegal business operations on the local PBBB board but was met with my normal deaf ear from the mods.
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Same here but i found out why, Not to mention any names they were solicited to write a Food Review on that upright bunch of solid citisens
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Talking about rules and regulations, if you pay a Mexican a regular wage week in and week out, as an employer so to speak, of a gardener or whatever,
are you, according to Mexican law responsible for their health coverage costs and/or taxes to the Mexican government??? I really don't know the
answer to that....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
I repell from this type of arrogance that tells one the law doesn't apply to him.
It does apply, but for lack of enforcement, it goes unheeded....and unrespected. I have a real problem with this. It makes me wonder why I pay the
expense to do it by the book........and they don't. |
As long as these folks are living hand-to-mouth no one will care. But the second they get ahead of the game the "man" will show up.
Guaranteed.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 24baja
I know that we have planned out pretty much to the penny what we will be able to have available to us when we relocate to BOLA. We have already
secured a home and boat to enable us to fish for our food. |
This one got my attention. Seems like you have planned things meticulously, so I ask you if you mean supplement by fishing or actually procuring most
of your food by fishing. Seems to be that it would be considerably cheaper to buy the fish from the locals than regularly spend money on gas to get
them yourself. So I ask - how close are those two costs?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Talking about rules and regulations, if you pay a Mexican a regular wage week in and week out, as an employer so to speak, of a gardener or whatever,
are you, according to Mexican law responsible for their health coverage costs and/or taxes to the Mexican government??? I really don't know the
answer to that.... |
Actually, you don't even know the question. A worker who performs a task on a weekly basis is not your responsibility. He's contract labor....hired
and fired at the beginning and end of his shift.
We recently covered this ad nauseum.
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actually I had a woman that worked for me like that, and according to the Mexican government, I owed her a vacation...among other things!! What a
gringo thinks and what the Mexican Government thinks are two different things!!! | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
Talking about rules and regulations, if you pay a Mexican a regular wage week in and week out, as an employer so to speak, of a gardener or whatever,
are you, according to Mexican law responsible for their health coverage costs and/or taxes to the Mexican government??? I really don't know the
answer to that.... |
Actually, you don't even know the question. A worker who performs a task on a weekly basis is not your responsibility. He's contract labor....hired
and fired at the beginning and end of his shift.
We recently covered this ad nauseum. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
actually I had a woman that worked for me like that, |
Like what? Daily......weekly........what?
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As Barnam said there's an a$$ for every seat (or slum).
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