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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
But I still admire them for what they're doing. It isn't something most of us could do-- |
I can almost see your list of iconic Americans, Steve. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln, Bonnie and Clyde, Ted Kaczynski........
Dont forget the Geezer Bandit,
If you havent been to San Blass you couldnt Imagine poooooooooooooor the would not have to try very hard to rise above the poverty level there.
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slum (slm)
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A heavily populated urban area characterized by substandard housing and squalor.
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Viviendas Populares
Infonavit Housing comes to mind and most I've ever seen, if they don't start as a government built hovel, they soon enough end up as one. Bars over
the windows are a bigger selling point than the flushing toilet.
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Mana and San Blas...
One of the most beautiful and haunting songs by the Mexican group Mana is El Muelle de San Blas..has anyone seen the Muelle?? | Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
But I still admire them for what they're doing. It isn't something most of us could do-- |
I can almost see your list of iconic Americans, Steve. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln, Bonnie and Clyde, Ted Kaczynski........
Dont forget the Geezer Bandit,
If you havent been to San Blass you couldnt Imagine poooooooooooooor the would not have to try very hard to rise above the poverty level there.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
If you havent been to San Blass you couldnt Imagine poooooooooooooor the would not have to try very hard to rise above the poverty level there.
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I've been there. The insects and aligators own the place.
Torinos Bar is the bright spot in town. [I wonder if it's still there?]
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Bajatripper
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
But I still admire them for what they're doing. It isn't something most of us could do-- |
I can almost see your list of iconic Americans, Steve. George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Abe Lincoln, Bonnie and Clyde, Ted Kaczynski........ |
Interesting how things (according to your list) went to sh#t right about the time that the GOP was formed. Coincidence? Perhaps, but ...
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
slum (slm)
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A heavily populated urban area characterized by substandard housing and squalor.
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I guess that's my point. What do we call substandard housing and squalor that isn't in an urban zone?
What comes to mind are my years in the Philippines. There, most of the country lived in substandard housing that often included squalor. But when I
was in the countryside, I didn't usually fear for my safety in such places--at least, not in the day time. Now, put me on the edge of Tondo, one of
the most historic "barrios" in Manila, and I fear for my life, at ANY time. That is one scary, poor, poor, poor place.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
One of the most beautiful and haunting songs by the Mexican group Mana is El Muelle de San Blas..has anyone seen the Muelle?? |
I like the song and love the group, Doc. An interesting note (at least, to me) is the history of San Blas. That was the Mexican ship repair center for
the Manila Galleons (Cavite, on Manila Bay, was it's Philippine counterpart). I haven't made it there yet, but will one day, for the historic
significance of the place (after so many years as a working port, the beaches are bound to be ugly).
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
My daughter was 6 years old when I first came to Ensnada.
I feel sorry for your daughter. |
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Don't feel sorry for her....she is fully bilingual..didn't know a word of Spanish when she came here...and now people think she was born here..is a
dual citizen...and will be eligible ot go to a Veterinary school in Mexico that is accredited by the U.S. and only $300 a semester...(check out the
tuition of UC Davis) | Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
My daughter was 6 years old when I first came to Ensnada.
I feel sorry for your daughter. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
I haven't made it there yet, but will one day, for the historic significance of the place (after so many years as a working port, the beaches are
bound to be ugly). |
Beaches are, in fact, beautiful and the surf is noteworthy. Above town on a hilltop is the remnant of a fort with crenolations to cradle cannon
barrels of a long gone era.
The place is dripping with history, but, unfortunatly, overrun with blood-thirsty bugs. If not for that scourge, Hilton would be the most prominant
employer.
When I was last there, the local Mota dealer had that distinction.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
My daughter was 6 years old when I first came to Ensnada.
I feel sorry for your daughter. |
From the "quote" there, I'm gathering that gregg feels sorry that Doc's daughter has been raised in Ensenada. As someone raised in Mexico and the
father of a daughter raised in Mexico and a son who got a good dose of Philippine and Japanese cultures in his youth, I've gotta say, I don't get your
point, gregg. Care to expound a bit? Just curious as to your thinking.
Reminds me of the old joke that Europeans are said to have:
What do you call a person who speaks two languages? a: bilingual.
What do you call a person who speaks three languages? a: trilingual.
What do you call a person who speaks four languages? a:quadrilingual
What do you call a person who speaks only ONE language: a: an American
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
I haven't made it there yet, but will one day, for the historic significance of the place (after so many years as a working port, the beaches are
bound to be ugly). |
Beaches are, in fact, beautiful and the surf is noteworthy. Above town on a hilltop is the remnant of a fort with crenolations to cradle cannon
barrels of a long gone era.
The place is dripping with history, but, unfortunatly, overrun with blood-thirsty bugs. If not for that scourge, Hilton would be the most prominant
employer.
When I was last there, the local Mota dealer had that distinction. |
Thanks for the info, Dennis. All the more reason to go there.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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I went in the late 70's. There was a campground full of tourists, plenty of gringos. All were complaining about the no-seeums. Some were so bitten
up they were sick. If we went out after dusk, you had to completely cover yourself and use bug spray. The boat ride to the fresh water lagoon was
wonderful. We were allowed to go swimming in it - like Sparkletts water. The beach was littered with shark eggs and I saw my first and only gila
monster on the beach. In the evening, the townspeople would come out to the central esplanade for socializing. Our hotel room had no hot water, no
window glass (just a screen), and small lizards came out in the evening on the walls and ceiling. $6/nt. We really enjoyed San Blas, except for the
no-seeums.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
the fresh water lagoon was wonderful. We were allowed to go swimming in it - like Sparkletts water. |
I was there quite a while before that and there was a large, concrete bathtub-like thing full of baby gators and the lagoon bottom was littered with
beer cans.
After seeing the gators, all thoughts of swimming vanished..
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
The beach was littered with shark eggs and... |
Nice story, wilderone, and the date of your visit would definitely give you bragging rights to something.
Just a minor point, I'd guess those were probably turtle eggs you saw on the beach. While I'm no shark expert, among the little I do know about them
is that they are born fully functional out of the womb. At least, the ones I've seen local fishermen catch are that way.
[Edited on 1-19-2012 by Bajatripper]
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What about the beer cans??
I would have thought that there would have been no obstacle to getting down to the beer cans... | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
the fresh water lagoon was wonderful. We were allowed to go swimming in it - like Sparkletts water. |
I was there quite a while before that and there was a large, concrete bathtub-like thing full of baby gators and the lagoon bottom was littered with
beer cans.
After seeing the gators, all thoughts of swimming vanished.. |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
I would have thought that there would have been no obstacle to getting down to the beer cans |
Right. The alligators got down there with ease. The water was so clear it may have been twenty feet deep.
Anyway....that was before recycling. The cans may have been steel so they wouldn't last too long anyway.
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Was there in 1972, my 1st International Surf trip of sorts, I believe the break a little so. of San Blas was called Matachen Bay,
even at 2', the right was rideable for 200'.
Very fun
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| Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
Was there in 1972, my 1st International Surf trip of sorts, I believe the break a little so. of San Blas was called Matachen Bay,
even at 2', the right was rideable for 200'.
Very fun |
http://www.wannasurf.com/spot/Central_America/Mexico/Sinaloa...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
I went in the late 70's. There was a campground full of tourists, plenty of gringos. All were complaining about the no-seeums. Some were so bitten
up they were sick. If we went out after dusk, you had to completely cover yourself and use bug spray. The boat ride to the fresh water lagoon was
wonderful. We were allowed to go swimming in it - like Sparkletts water. The beach was littered with shark eggs and I saw my first and only gila
monster on the beach. In the evening, the townspeople would come out to the central esplanade for socializing. Our hotel room had no hot water, no
window glass (just a screen), and small lizards came out in the evening on the walls and ceiling. $6/nt. We really enjoyed San Blas, except for the
no-seeums. |
Went to San Blas when I was 13 (1970-71) ... remember the no-see-ums (slept in a camper at a trailer park), the Spanish fort on the hill, the river
ride way up to the giant fresh water source with a rope swing over the river at that restaurant. Iguanas everywhere. Lot's of American hippies there
and talk about rounding them up and forcing them to have hair cuts and lectures on masculinity! 
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