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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 02:41 PM


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It's a shame the way crooked police chase away tourists from Baja.


Really?

Think there are people here not going through CC because of crooked cops? Maybe those who are frightened but certainly not nomads.

Think there are more people here who have never been stopped than people who have been scammed.

And, it's possible that half those stopped are breaking the law -- blowing through town running lights. Bet that plsses those cops off.


He said tourists, not nomads and you'd have to agree that dirty cops chase tons of tourists away from Mexico. Americans are scared of most police officers in Mexico because of the all-pervasive corruption. You're idealizing it for the Mexican police as though they have to endure a flood of speed demon Americans flaunting their traffic laws while their own citizens are model citizens. We both know that's not true. Tons of cops in Baja feel perfectly justified in extorting Americans and the only reason they might not do it is if pressure is exerted from higher channels who know the impact it's having on the flow of dollars.
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 02:58 PM


Too bad facts are not used to back up the statements that are made. Using emotion laden adjectives to not add to credibility.
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 03:39 PM


I will chime in on one aspect of the situation. That is police in Mexico, especially local police are paid ridiculously low wages for what they are employed to do. That would seem to be fertile ground for the extortion we all encounter from time to time.

You want clean cops? Pay them well.
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[*] posted on 3-17-2012 at 03:41 PM


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You're idealizing it for the Mexican police as though they have to endure a flood of speed demon Americans flaunting their traffic laws while their own citizens are model citizens. We both know that's not true.


I think it is true but can't put a number on it. If there are bad apples in every bunch, and I think it's about 10%, yeah, I think they breeze through CC pulling boats, driving fancy Class A's, rolling through stop signs (like locals), not making complete stops, etc.

None of this justifies getting scammed for being white and monied.

I'm convinced CC cops make their share of legal stops. Whether you pay at the scene or at the station is your call.




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[*] posted on 3-18-2012 at 08:39 AM


"Keeping up with traffic" doesn't work any better in mexico than it does in the USA.

Kilometer speeds many times are ridiculously slow. Constitucion is 40 kmh 24.82 mph.

You must stop for an AMBER light.

If a light turns red while you are in an intersection you can be cited.

To make a LEFT turn in Constitucion, first exit to the RIGHT onto the paralelo, Parallel the direction you were traveling in until the next block.

On a green arrow or other signal, make a LEFT, go across the highway.

Same rule for u-turns
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