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Osprey
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Armed camp in Baja Sur
As expected (until the G 20 summit ends June 19) Baja Sur is an armed camp.
Neighbors went from Los Barriles to SJDC the other day >> 6 stops/check stations with police and military in 60 road miles.
Calderone fights the War Against Imaginary Trouble.
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castaway$
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Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
Calderone fights the War Against Imaginary Trouble. |
That makes no sense, The G20 is not a gathering of the top 20 drug lords throughout the world.
Live Indubiously!
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Osprey
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Don't take much. They let Chapo slip right through their SWAT fingers and they're not happy about it.
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bajaguy
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Ahhhhhhhhh
But it looks good, and perception is everything!!
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LaPazGringo
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The road outside Los Planes was blocked by federales last night but we were heading toward La Paz (from Bahia de Los Suenos) and they barely looked at
us. Stopping all traffic heading South.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
As expected (until the G 20 summit ends June 19) Baja Sur is an armed camp.
Neighbors went from Los Barriles to SJDC the other day >> 6 stops/check stations with police and military in 60 road miles.
Calderone fights the War Against Imaginary Trouble. |
really , so what would you have done, great wise man
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Osprey
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What would I have done about what? When? What for?
While I'm waiting, thanks for the hype >> great, wise, man. I'm flattered that you've been reading my posts and my essays and fiction pieces.
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desertcpl
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Quote: | Originally posted by Osprey
What would I have done about what? When? What for?
While I'm waiting, thanks for the hype >> great, wise, man. I'm flattered that you've been reading my posts and my essays and fiction pieces.
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your really funny, you cant remember what you wrote  
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Police man was shot and killed and they were searchig for the bad guys.
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desertcpl
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thats not good at all,, dont want anybody to get hurt
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DavidE
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Damn! Look folks, those of you that have to live with organized crime can appreciate the frustration that Mexico has with trying to contain it. IT
FREAKIN' AIN'T ABOUT THE DRUGS!!
It's about a group of armed men knocking on your gosh darnned door at midnight explaining how unsafe the neighborhood is and how they can control it
for say 500MN a week. It's about cops so afraid to respond to a telephone call about a burglar (sanctioned by the local mafia) that they respond in 45
minutes even though the station is a half mile away.
It's about gunfire in front of the supermarket that a ricochet chips a piece of concrete, slashes your forehead and you drive gosh darnned home with
blood dripping in your lap. It's about two little adopted grand daughters one of which crapped her denims the other urinated in her shorts.
SCREW THE DRUGS! THIS IS NOT ABOUT DRUGS! This is about killers that are perfectly willing and capable of shooting up a newsworthy conference in order
to make a point. They chop heads off and assassinate toddlers to make a point. In my home state I read anuncios all the time posted alongside the
highway.
When they legalize drugs what do you think the sicarios are going to do, stripe a burro and take tourist photos on the beach? Tend bar? Fix flats?
OK I've vented. Come with me when I go home and I'll show you what the gosh darnned war is all about.
[Edited on 3-28-2012 by DavidE]
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Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
When they legalize drugs what do you think the sicarios are going to do, stripe a burro to take tourist photos on the beach? | Important point. Are we totally screwed?
What happened to all the U.S. gangsters after the repeal of Prohibition? |
They found other victims to prey upon like "protection", drugs etc. Anybody that thinks that legalizing drugs in the US would make it all go away is
foolish. Criminals are criminals, the drug dealers aren't going to get a job pumping gas at the local Pemex if the drug money dries up, they are going
to go after the next lowest hanging fruit....like tourists or expat Americans or Canadians who own homes in a foreign country and can't defend
themselves........
sorry for the hijack, I got a little carried away.....what were we talking about again?......dt
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The roadblocks were due to the shooting of two policemen who had made several drug busts in the area recently. It took place on the highway SJD-Los
Barriles on the morning of the 26th and one of the policemen was killed with an AK-47 of course. The navy, all levels of police and the army
descended on the area and this morning the papers say they have arrested 3 hired assassins for the murder. You can be sure Los Cabos will be saturated
with sharpshooters et al when the G20 comes to town. Good time to go on vacation
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Quote: | Originally posted by lenchoWhat happened to all the U.S. gangsters after the repeal of Prohibition? |
Some ended up dead, others in Alcatraz. To throw our hands up and say that these traficantes have won and we're all future victims is absurd.
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dtbushpilot
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Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
Quote: | Originally posted by lenchoWhat happened to all the U.S. gangsters after the repeal of Prohibition? |
Some ended up dead, others in Alcatraz. To throw our hands up and say that these traficantes have won and we're all future victims is absurd.
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So what do you think would happen if the drug profits dissapeared for one reason or another?
"Life is tough".....It's even tougher if you're stupid.....
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If drugs where legalized? Half the law enforcement guys, lawyers, and bail bondsmen would be looking for jobs. There would be a revolution in Mexico,
life would go on. The revenue from taxation would be put to good use as opposed to the illegal payoffs enriching politicians. And on and on. It's
gonna happen sooner or later.
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vgabndo
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So Osprey, Brother, you appear to have over-reacted. That's OK with me. I know a little bit more than most, it seems, about armed camps.
What happened to organized crime in America? It is alive and well in the form of about 1200 far right wing (predominantly) Christian private armies.
A 755% increase in so called Patriot Militias has occurred since the election of a half white President. (widely reported non-partisan study)
I KNOW who the commander is who claims my street!
I know who one of his HEROs is. (Other than the terrorist who flew his plane into the IRS building in TX.)
His hero, is Richard Mack. Richard Mack is CSPOA. CSPOA is a 10th. Amendment organization recruiting outlaw sheriffs to arrest State and Federal
authorities in order to cause the Feds to react. When they react, Richard Mack and my Sheriff Jon Lopey, who is on his Board of Directors, will scream
Federal Tyranny, push the button, and I guarantee they can put 1000 heavily armed terrorists in this County in 24 hours. It would be, with the
information I have, naive and foolish to think otherwise. If I can drive TO Idaho in 10 hours the most virulently fanatical can easily do the
reverse; and that is just one compass direction. www.jeffersonstatemilitia.com CLAIMS more than 100,000 members!
A fanatical Christian war lord, I submit, when he starts spraying bullets in the name of his anti-government beliefs is every bit as dangerous as a
drug lord with an AK47. Perhaps more dangerous if one supports their government.
I will add that those who support the war lords, seem to think that the street gangs are their superior in terms of fire-power.
There is street gang chatter on the militia site here. Although there is a sophomoric effort to make it appear that the racism and white power
foundations of their movement no longer apply, this is just result of what they learned after their first big success in Oklahoma City.
DavidE, I hear you LOUD and CLEAR.
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
Quote: | Originally posted by LaPazGringo
Quote: | Originally posted by lenchoWhat happened to all the U.S. gangsters after the repeal of Prohibition? |
Some ended up dead, others in Alcatraz. To throw our hands up and say that these traficantes have won and we're all future victims is absurd.
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So what do you think would happen if the drug profits dissapeared for one reason or another? |
I mean this in the friendliest sort of way but can't seem to find any other way to put it: that's an absolutely absurd "what if?" Not interested...
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Cypress
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vgabndo, 775% increase in people that are alarmed about the direction the current administration is taking the US? Obamacare, open mike dialogue with
the Russian president, the fuel situation, inflamitory remarks regarding the Florida shooting, the entire Dem congessional crowd marching in lock-step
with the whole program. The list is endless. Make that 776% at this point.
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dtbushpilot
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Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Quote: | Originally posted by dtbushpilot
So what do you think would happen if the drug profits dissapeared for one reason or another? |
I think they would take their hundreds of millions, buy political influence, launder money through legislated banking laws and become more mainstream,
for lack of a better word.
There's plenty of RE sitting here NOB just waiting for buyers.... what better way to legitimize all those profits?
A very simple synopsis but entirely possible.
Look how our government prints up dollars out of thin air to bail out banks...not people, but banks.
Ridiculous. |
You may be right about the 1% at the top of the cartel food chain but I was thinking more about the foot soldiers who do all the actual killing.
Perhaps they will come North to the "land of plenty" and join their MS13 brethren....
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