DavidE
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A Very Nicely Done Web Site On Bahia Tortugas
A Trip To Bahia Tortugas
This website gets a fistful of estrellas from me. It is excellently laid out with the type of information I want to see in an article of this type.
It is dated 2009. The highway to the jct of Asuncion from Vizcaino has deteriorated horribly but westward some of the hwy has been paved.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
A Trip To Bahia Tortugas
This website gets a fistful of estrellas from me. It is excellently laid out with the type of information I want to see in an article of this type.
It is dated 2009. The highway to the jct of Asuncion from Vizcaino has deteriorated horribly but westward some of the hwy has been paved.
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Excellent web page... Check out his other well done Baja and desert trip pages off his home page (his Gonzaga page seem to have been made about 2009,
based on where the pavement ended below Puertecitos).
Gracias Dah-veed!
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DianaT
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It is a very nice web site about his travels---very well done.
One thing jumped out and I wonder with whom he was speaking.
"Bahia Tortugas has no real industry, as the largest cannery in town is closed, and the other cannery only operates sporadically. Commercial
fishing is practically non-existent, as there are only a few operators, and they primarily supply fish for the locals, and the couple of sit-down
restaurants that are still in business. There are state and municipal jobs, and service jobs in the private sector, but very little else. According to
my gracious host, most people just eek out a living doing whatever they can do. Take a look around the town, and that shows."
In Bahia Tortugas the co-op fishermen can fish for both lobster and abalone and often do VERY well financially. Other co-ops like in Bahia Asuncion,
Abreojos etc only allow the fishermen to fish for ONE of the big cash items, and then fish for other fish during the off season. And some years they
do very well and make more money than often people think.
Eating out in restaurants is just not a part of the culture in these fishing towns. For instance, in BA people may grab a taco for the baseball
game, or a hotdog at night, etc., but going out to dinner is not common at all --- they all cook at home even when they can afford to eat out. Oh, on
the rare weekend that the chicken stand opens, he sells out! There is one small cafe that will serve soup at a very reduced price later at night
where we know a couple of unmarried workers like to eat.
The restaurants in our town mainly survive on the out of town business---not just tourists, but the Mexican vendors, officials, etc. who come to town.
I enjoyed the website and we really enjoy our trips out to Tortugas. It is an interesting place. It is good to see someone write such positive
things about the place.
[Edited on 4-8-2012 by DianaT]
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Bajaboy
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I've eaten at Restaurante El Moroco a number of times...great food and great service. Each time, though, we had the place to ourselves. There are so
many cool areas to explore in the area. I need to get back out there.
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rts551
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This trip was take in 2008 and the report written in 2009? It has a lot of errors in it. The gas station pictured has been closed for some time -
over 5 years. There is another full service PEMEX station off the main road a couple of blocks over that has been open quiet a while. The coop is
not closed! Had one of the biggest years ever for Lobster this year. Tourism from sailors and boaters has been big business for years as they have
a fuel dock and a very safe haven for boats. etc etc
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David K
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... and that is what makes Baja Nomad a great source of information... up to date news from folks like Ralph (rts551) and DianaT 
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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See? By posting that website here our experts chime in and fine tune an excellent article into a superb piece of information. This is exactly what
makes Baja Nomad a superior web forum!
Seenyore Web Administrator:
The above website is superior enough IMHO to warrant incorporation of a permanent link. May I beg that this be done?
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Udo
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Motel Rendon...
Restaurant decorations along the south wall. Food was better than average, and made to order. Low prices.
Old cannery
Very old pier!
| Quote: | Originally posted by Oddjob
If you go to Tortugas I would recommend staying at the Motel Rendon instead of the Nanci. |
Udo
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"Motel Nanci: A very basic, two-star motel by Mexican standards, I find this motel surprisingly comfortable, centrally located, and staffed by very
friendly people."
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I'm just curious............What are "Mexican Standards?"
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Udo
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BTW...
The website starts out saying to leave your attitudes about Mexico behind...
This is VERY old Baja...and very basic.
Udo
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The motel has a couple of permanent residents in the back rooms.
The front rooms are RIGHT on the dirt road, but noise is almost non-existent. Almost no traffic.
The rooms were spotless, and there was the ever-present aroma of bleach. Bed was a comfortable foam mattress, and just enough room for each person to
get in on one side or the other. Water was very hot, but the toilet and sink were not very plumb...as I have experienced in many motels about the
peninsula.
VERY BASIC.
When I stayed there last, the rooms were the equivalent of $15.00 per night.
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"Motel Nanci: A very basic, two-star motel by Mexican standards.
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I'm just curious............What are "Mexican Standards?" |
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
See? By posting that website here our experts chime in and fine tune an excellent article into a superb piece of information. This is exactly what
makes Baja Nomad a superior web forum!
Seenyore Web Administrator:
The above website is superior enough IMHO to warrant incorporation of a permanent link. May I beg that this be done? |
DavidE. With respect, I disagree. I find it written as a trip report (from the travelers perspective), with spelling errors (Davidk would have a
field day), and full of inaccurate info because of what basically was a one time, very short trip. Trip reports are good, but should not be taken
as necessarily factual, unless the writer spends a lot of time in the location.
For example:
"The small town of Vizcaíno is located about 30 miles south of Guerro Negro, and it really isn't noteworthy for much of anything except for the fact
that the road to Bahia Tortugas, which leads to the town of the same name, and the Pacific Ocean, branches off to the west from the town. "
Vizcaino is a major hub of commerce and agriculture for the northern part of Baja Sur!
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DavidE
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Mood: 'At home we demand facts and get them. In Mexico one subsists on rumor and never demands anything.' Charles Flandrau,
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A link would be better than what's now not available at all...
Perhaps a link with a caveat annotation?
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David K
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Any trip report (even mine, LOL) are only 100% accurate the day they were recorded, and if the reporter is unbiased... But, as Dah-veed says... any
(fairly well done) trip report beats none at all!
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Any trip report (even mine, LOL) are only 100% accurate the day they were recorded, and if the reporter is unbiased... But, as Dah-veed says... any
(fairly well done) trip report beats none at all! |
100% accurate?????????????? How do you figure? Trip reports can be inaccurate on day one. Even yours. Some people do make mistakes.
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DavidE
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As far as my criticisms are concerned I made up a rule long ago "that I shall not criticize what I do not participate in". I like to think informal
trip report errors are not fraught with as much peril as say amateur recommendations for taking prescription medicines in Mexico. As a veteran of
visiting Los Bajas Californias for merely 48 years I felt the article was and is unique enough to warrant some form of sticky.
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rts551
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DavidE.
Don't get mad. While I did not come out and say it, the problem with trip reports, is some people base their own travel on what is posted. I am
glad this person had a wonderful time..But he/she also makes recommendations or inferences to other travelers that is not correct and people need to
know this.
I especially take exception to people who respond to questions about areas or road conditions with 10 year old trip reports. It misleads people.
But I did not mean to disrespect you or the writer in this case.
Ralph
Oh and on edit not a newbie to Baja either. first time 1954 if I can include family trips.
[Edited on 4-8-2012 by rts551]
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rts551
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Seasoned travelers are good for providing history. Recent travelers are good for travel information. Some people are both.
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DianaT
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DavidE,
IMHO. to make this or any other website a "sticky" would open a huge can of worms. A number of nomads have personal websites for different parts of
Baja, or for specific interests in Baja, or their personal websites that advertise their businesses in different parts of Baja and Baja California Sur
and then there are many other websites for just about everything in Baja-- then there are the numerous blogs for businesses or travel blogs, etc.
So where would it end?
If you have not been to Tortugas, it is worth a visit and be sure to head on out to one of those end of the world places, Punta Eugenia. Just a
great place to be.
BTW --- there is a sub-forum on this forum called, My Web-Site and you could add this site there, I guess.
[Edited on 4-9-2012 by DianaT]
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