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My point is that the response was so predictable. So why start.
Is the correct spelling so important to go through this. Obviously the detractors don't find it very important. So it's like rubbing a sore over and
over. Where's the pleasure. Or is that the pleasure. Isn't the point to enjoy reading info on this website.
Then there are those who say don't look. I always get a kick out of that. Because those that say it, looked at your response and responded. So how am
I to respond to don't look. In the same way - don't look at my response to the response you don't think I should look. It's absurd. It is safe to
completely ignore such an admonition. And yet it's so common.
[Edited on 4-22-2012 by Skipjack Joe]
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What constantly amazes me is that some of us are so concerned with "motives". Personally, I don't care about "motives", just the wonderful
information that is posted here, by almost everyone. Why they do it is irrelevant (sp?) to me, and none of the relevant information is annoying to
me. (actually only whining annoys me) 
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As one who trys, but often fails, to do things correctly (was going to say "right", but I know how that word offends some......), I appreciate seeing
the common errors side by side with the correct spellings. I have made more than one of the listed errors, probably more than once each.
It seems like it doesn't matter what DK posts, he gets bashed. My sense is that it has nothing to do with the content of his posts, but that many
know, and disagree with his politics. I think that unless the topic involves politics (in which case it should be in OT) politics should remain
unmentioned. Just too divisive an area, and it wrecks some good conversations that would benefit many new comers.
Sorry Diana, perhaps I was projecting, but I saw some political references in this thread long before DK brought it up. Some here have a very sore
spot when it comes to DK, and are very, very quick to pounce on him, even when he's being "good". Seems like the lines are drawn along personal
politics line. I feel that he usually uses a good deal of restraint in replying to the many attacks that come his way.
But enough of that. Time to go to Pompano's thread and feel good about BN again.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
What constantly amazes me is that some of us are so concerned with "motives".
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Sorry Barry,
I analyze and try to understand everything. It's my way. Whether it's ramuma's motives or a cave dwellers.
A simple description is informative but less interesting to me.
If you don't like what I write don't read it.
             
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Quote: | Originally posted by lencho
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I'm told that Miguel Leon Portilla (Mexico's foremost anthropologist and historian) goes into a little tissy when he hears the peninsula referred to
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In English or Spanish? If Spanish, that seems odd: |
Lencho, I think you know enough Spanish to not confuse "La Baja California" with "The Baja." So does Leon Portilla.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
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Quote: | Originally posted by sancho
Etymology In early historic mission documents — primarily baptism, marriage, and death records — there are mentions of the city with the names: La Tía
Juana
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Source(s), please. |
Here's one, I'll get you more if you want
http://www.enotes.com/topic/Tijuana#Etymology |
Sorry, but that isn't much of a source. I was hoping you might have an historical account written by someone with gravitas in the subject.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Islandbuilder
It seems like it doesn't matter what DK posts, he gets bashed.
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It's true that there are alliances among nomads. I think that no nomad would agree to this. Yet it's plain to see. I think you're right that it breaks
down on politics. Yet this thread is not political.
I agree with Barry that David is probably the most knowledgable nomad on baja. I am constantly amazed at the information he finds. A dedication that's
truly amazing. He's weak in science and I ding him with that but that's so infrequent.
But there are signs of change. Woody has clearly tired of the game and has withdrawn. He's his own man now. He left his alliance and I greatly admire
that. There is little friction between the two now. They respect one another.
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Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
DavidKIA
It is kinda of like listening to Al Gore talk about inventing the internet ...
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Funny you should mention that. While he may not have invented it, Al Gore did have much to do with its development:
By Robert Kahn and Vinton Cerf
Al Gore was the first political leader to recognize the importance of the
Internet and to promote and support its development.
No one person or even small group of persons exclusively "invented" the
Internet. It is the result of many years of ongoing collaboration among
people in government and the university community. But as the two people
who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the
Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a
Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to
our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of
time.
Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role.
He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have
argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover,
there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's
initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving
Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and
promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it
is timely to offer our perspective.
As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed
telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the
improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official
to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact
than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship. Though easily
forgotten, now, at the time this was an unproven and controversial
concept. Our work on the Internet started in 1973 and was based on even
earlier work that took place in the mid-late 1960s. But the Internet, as
we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still
in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided
intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential
benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he
sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in
areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural
disasters and other crises.
As a Senator in the 1980s Gore urged government agencies to consolidate
what at the time were several dozen different and unconnected networks
into an "Interagency Network." Working in a bi-partisan manner with
officials in Ronald Reagan and George Bush's administrations, Gore secured
the passage of the High Performance Computing and Communications Act in
1991. This "Gore Act" supported the National Research and Education
Network (NREN) initiative that became one of the major vehicles for the
spread of the Internet beyond the field of computer science.
As Vice President Gore promoted building the Internet both up and out, as
well as releasing the Internet from the control of the government agencies
that spawned it. He served as the major administration proponent for
continued investment in advanced computing and networking and private
sector initiatives such as Net Day. He was and is a strong proponent of
extending access to the network to schools and libraries. Today,
approximately 95% of our nation's schools are on the Internet. Gore
provided much-needed political support for the speedy privatization of the
Internet when the time arrived for it to become a commercially-driven
operation.
There are many factors that have contributed to the Internet's rapid
growth since the later 1980s, not the least of which has been political
support for its privatization and continued support for research in
advanced networking technology. No one in public life has been more
intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving
Internet than the Vice President. Gore has been a clear champion of this
effort, both in the councils of government and with the public at large.
The Vice President deserves credit for his early recognition of the value
of high speed computing and communication and for his long-term and
consistent articulation of the potential value of the Internet to American
citizens and industry and, indeed, to the rest of the world.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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Skipjack Joe
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Quote: | Originally posted by Bajatripper
Quote: | Originally posted by CortezBlue
DavidKIA
It is kinda of like listening to Al Gore talk about inventing the internet ...
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Funny you should mention that. While he may not have invented it, Al Gore did have much to do with its development:
"During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet."
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Inventing and creating sound so similar. It's understandble. A very poor choice of wording by Mr Gore. He was more of a promoter. No wonder the right
is laughing. Nobody is interested in the details above. The phrase says it all and that's what's so damaging. Just my opinion.
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
What constantly amazes me is that some of us are so concerned with "motives".
Barry |
Sorry Barry,
I analyze and try to understand everything. It's my way. Whether it's ramuma's motives or a cave dwellers.
A simple description is informative but less interesting to me.
If you don't like what I write don't read it.
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Good one, Skipjack!!!! 
----but I was not really taking direct aim at you specifically-----it was a generic comment. I read everybody's posts if the subject line appeals to
me, and even when I post my opinion it does not mean that I am annoyed with ANYBODY----I am not unless it is a personal attack against somebody
(especially me). 
You are a good poster, SkipJack.
Barry
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Skipjack Joe
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Well thanks, Barry,
I always thought I irritated you. Just goes to show how hard it is to interpret posts.
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that just means you'll have to try harder!
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Barry A.
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Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
that just means you'll have to try harder! |
-----won't work----I am sorta Autistic when it comes to being "irritated"----very little irritates me, and certainly not SkipJack. His "Sistine
Chapel" thread is outstanding!!!!
Barry
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Skipjack Joe
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Who knew? You post and don't know where things will go. I learned so much.
I'll never again confuse Cochimi with sashimi <groan>.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
My point is that the response was so predictable. So why start.
Is the correct spelling so important to go through this. Obviously the detractors don't find it very important. So it's like rubbing a sore over and
over. Where's the pleasure. Or is that the pleasure. Isn't the point to enjoy reading info on this website.
Then there are those who say don't look. I always get a kick out of that. Because those that say it, looked at your response and responded. So how am
I to respond to don't look. In the same way - don't look at my response to the response you don't think I should look. It's absurd. It is safe to
completely ignore such an admonition. And yet it's so common.
[Edited on 4-22-2012 by Skipjack Joe] |
Gee wiz, I was just offering free geography here and because of mostly CortezBlue, I decided to explain WHY...
Read the first post I made... It explains it all... For Diana T and others to 'read' more into it, that isn't the case... For Igor, I explained why...
I don't care if a few don't like that I try and show the correct spelling... A loss for them, perhaps.
It is about learning and fun! That's all!!
If you don't want to have fun, why go to Baja, why be on Baja Nomad??
Okay amigos? Chill out and have a great day!
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Quote: | Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
"During my service in the United States Congress I took the
initiative in creating the Internet."
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Inventing and creating sound so similar. It's understandble. A very poor choice of wording by Mr Gore. He was more of a promoter. No wonder the right
is laughing. Nobody is interested in the details above. The phrase says it all and that's what's so damaging. Just my opinion.
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Again, one sees what one wants to see, as you just demonstrated, Skip. He didn't even say that he "created" the Internet, which sounds like what you
are implying. He said "he took the initiative in creating." Perhaps it's a small nuance, but it speaks volumes in how things are often taken by the
Right and used to obfuscate the real issue, which is often that the Right hasn't a clue about something so they distract by denigrating it. Another
excellent example of this technique is how Senator John Kerry's military record in Viet Nam (and Al Gore's for that matter) was distorted and smeared
to distract from the fact that candidate Bush spent the war in the Texas Air National Guard (where he knew he'd never have to fly a combat mission
over enemy territory), complements of his father having friends in high places and pulling strings to get Jr. an appointment into it when he never
would have managed it on his own. And the man couldn't even fulfill that task with honor, having deserted the post before his time was up. But what
was the issue that was discussed in the media during the campaign? Whether or not Kerry went into Cambodian waters illegally while on patrol in his
river boat gunship during the war and what he did with HIS medals after the war.
That, my friend, is what the whole Al-Gore-said-he-invented-the-Internet crap was really all about. Take something the man is good at (being a nerd in
science and having seen the future applications of something so unfathomable in the 1970s) and making it a big negative, as in "HE LIED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
And--the best part--the Right then accuses the Left of being the ones who engage in this parctice, closing the circle, I suppose.
But I think you are wrong in saying nobody cares about the details above. There is likely one or two of you on the Right who still care about the
truth. It isn't much, but it's a start. And the rest of you, keep wallowing in your ignorance while your party takes this country into Third-World
status. And good luck on the adjustment in lifestyle, one the Left is more at ease with anyway.
And now...Back to Baja, where I'm enjoying a nice sunny day in La Paz. Since it isn't humid yet, all is good.
PS I'm not a David K basher, I get along great with the guy and often wonder how many of his detractors here know him in person. In fact, we will be
hosting David and his wife this summer (con el favor de Dios, as they say in these parts). Of course, my house, my rules.
Rule No. 1: Don't Talk Back
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Yes it's amazing that both Kerry and Gore lost to that nincomepoop. It's clear to me that most vote for the face and not the platform. And Bush comes
off as a very personable man. A guy you'd like to invite to your bbq. And that's why Romney will fail. Think why JFK succeded. Think why Dukakis
failed so miserably. Clinton, Reagan - both very charismatic.
But I still feel that Gore 'lied' because he exaggerated his contribution. He merely facilitated a technology which was all developed by others. And
this exaggeration has made him a laughing stock.
This may be off the mark:
When we came to the US my dad set to work and supported us. Later, for one year mom got a job at the Hilton. That money was used as a down payment for
the house. Later mom boasted "I bought this house". That's interesting. Dad would say, "You mean I've worked all my life at higher wages and couldn't
buy it yet you did it with one year's work?" And that's how many feel about Gore's statement. He bought the house.
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SkipJack-------If you had ever dealt with Romney eyeball to eyeball you would feel differently. He is VERY personable and can be charismatic. Of
course we all respond to different things. I never have thought that Barrack was "charismatic", but I am in a minority. To me he talks down to
everybody, and panders excessively, but that is just my perception.
I can relate to Mitt---------maybe others can too. We will see. He certainly offers the "hope & change" that I have been looking for in a leader,
and perhaps our last hope to reverse this disastrous course we have been on for the past 6 years, or so.
Barry
[Edited on 4-22-2012 by Barry A.]
[Edited on 4-22-2012 by Barry A.]
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Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
My point is that the response was so predictable. So why start.
Is the correct spelling so important to go through this. Obviously the detractors don't find it very important. So it's like rubbing a sore over and
over. Where's the pleasure. Or is that the pleasure. Isn't the point to enjoy reading info on this website.
Then there are those who say don't look. I always get a kick out of that. Because those that say it, looked at your response and responded. So how am
I to respond to don't look. In the same way - don't look at my response to the response you don't think I should look. It's absurd. It is safe to
completely ignore such an admonition. And yet it's so common.
[Edited on 4-22-2012 by Skipjack Joe] |
Gee wiz, I was just offering free geography here and because of mostly CortezBlue, I decided to explain WHY...
Read the first post I made... It explains it all... For Diana T and others to 'read' more into it, that isn't the case... For Igor, I explained why...
I don't care if a few don't like that I try and show the correct spelling... A loss for them, perhaps.
It is about learning and fun! That's all!!
If you don't want to have fun, why go to Baja, why be on Baja Nomad??
Okay amigos? Chill out and have a great day! |
Can you just answer the question?
Is that it? You just don't care? You don't care that you're rubbing that sore over and over. Why?
Can you try to reconsider?
[Edited on 4-22-2012 by Skipjack Joe]
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Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I never have thought that Barrack was "charismatic", but I am in a minority. To me he talks down to everybody, and panders excessively, but that is
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Barry,
How does an unknown give a speech at a National Convention and become a superstar? How does one beat a powerhouse like Hillary. Their platforms were
identical. But instead of a scowl you get a grin. We'll see about Romney. I'm almost always wrong about politics, and rarely interested.
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