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Agreed.
That's just like asking you to describe someone and all you talk about is the warts.
[Edited on 4-24-2012 by Skipjack Joe]
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Barry A.
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Well, I am on "the right" (I use to be a 'centrist') and I don't want to believe the left is really on an agenda like this, but it is hard to believe
when I keep hearing things either very similar too, or exactly as stated above, from commentators and guests on MSNBC, The New York Times, and
elsewhere.
What do you guys expect us to believe??
I sure hope Diane and SkipJack are right, tho.
Barry
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Well, I am on "the right" (I use to be a 'centrist') and I don't want to believe the left is really on an agenda like this, but it is hard to believe
when I keep hearing things either very similar too, or exactly as stated above, from commentators and guests on MSNBC, The New York Times, and
elsewhere.
What do you guys expect us to believe??
I sure hope Diane and SkipJack are right, tho.
Barry |
Can you be more specific? I can't think of anytime I have heard any of these things from MSNBC or read them in the New York Times unless it was
perhaps a letter to the editor.
If these things are really being promoted, I seriously would like to know who is promoting them and when? ?????
I have heard commentators on Fox promote the idea that the left is promoting some of these things---but they never seem to have specifics. It is a
little like O'Reilly calling Robert Reich a Commie which is really absurd and just taken out of thin air.
It was fun to watch two good friends, Robert Reich and the former Republican Senator, Alan Simpson in a discussion and the one thing they really
agreed upon was that they don't recognize the Republican Party anymore. Simpson was always considered one of the most conservative senators, and as
he said, he would not be accepted by the people now running the party. It would be nice to see the old GOP back.
On edit--- I am sure there is someone some where who would support one or some of these items listed, but it is not a part of any mainstream left
agenda. It would be like saying that the KKK is a part of the Right Wing agenda because there are some far out fringe Right Wingers who really
support the KKK agenda. If I read it correctly, I believe this would be one of the warts Igor mentioned.
[Edited on 4-24-2012 by DianaT]
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DianaT, The best trick the devil ever pulled was to make people think he didn't exist. Simpson ( RHINO) and Reich? Give me a break! I like your pictures.
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Barry A.
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Diane said, "I have heard commentators on Fox promote the idea that the left is promoting some of these things---but they never seem to have
specifics. It is a little like O'Reilly calling Robert Reich a Commie which is really absurd and just taken out of thin air."
-----it's a joke, Diane, and O'Reilly does this all the time-----it is part of his schtic (sp?). I hear Bob Reich almost every weekday on THE KUDLOW
REPORT (CNBC 4pm PDT weekdays) make statements that are so far left that he SOUNDS like a "Commie", to Conservatives, anyway.
We all hear what we want to hear, but no, I don't have any specifics of who I hear say or write things like that "list" (maybe Paul Krugman? or Rohn
Emanuel?)-----it is probably more of a perception than anything else, but still it seems real to us, unfortunately. I do listen to MSNBC when my wife
is away-------no way can I get away with it when she is home. 
Barry
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Diane said, "I have heard commentators on Fox promote the idea that the left is promoting some of these things---but they never seem to have
specifics. It is a little like O'Reilly calling Robert Reich a Commie which is really absurd and just taken out of thin air."
-----it's a joke, Diane, and O'Reilly does this all the time-----it is part of his schtic (sp?). I hear Bob Reich almost every weekday on THE KUDLOW
REPORT (CNBC 4pm PDT weekdays) make statements that are so far left that he SOUNDS like a "Commie", to Conservatives, anyway.
We all hear what we want to hear, but no, I don't have any specifics of who I hear say or write things like that "list" (maybe Paul Krugman? or Rohn
Emanuel?)-----it is probably more of a perception than anything else, but still it seems real to us, unfortunately. I do listen to MSNBC when my wife
is away-------no way can I get away with it when she is home.
Barry |
I would have liked to see an answer to her question. Where did you see these things on MSNBC or NY times?
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
DianaT, The best trick the devil ever pulled was to make people think he didn't exist. Simpson ( RHINO) and Reich? Give me a break! I like your pictures. |
I am not sure if you are questioning the idea of Simpson and Reich together, but this is what we watched on TV
Notice in the Montery Paper of their Appearance Together
And one of the things they really enjoyed talking about was how they became such good friends during the Clinton Era and often had lunch
together----they disagreed about a lot of things, but they were friends --- that was pre- tea party when the word compromise was not a dirty word.
Hatch and Kennedy were VERY close friends.
And scaring the heck out of people is how christianity has convinced people there is a devil. 
Still waiting for some specifics on from where this agenda came from, or was it one that DavidE made up in his own mind?
Barry, are people on the far right inclined to think those things and be quick to accept such a thing as reality because they have been scared to
death? Than the right-wing propaganda machine has done its job well. Seeming real and being real are way different things.
[Edited on 4-24-2012 by DianaT]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The Supreme Court stopped the recounting after two times it showed that Bush won... America needed to move on.
The chad thing was just so embarassing.. like are people in Florida really that stupid (the way the media made them to be)? How insulting. I don't
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Bullchit, but you are, after all, a Republican and don't know any better. You have to believe your Republican dogma because reality is such an enemy
of your world view.
But I love ya anyway, David, defects and all.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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David K
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So how do you spell SAN FRANCISQUITO ??
Come on amigos...
Back on topic:
SAN FELIPE (San Felipi, San Felippe, etc.)
ALGODONES (Algadones, etc.)
SAN VICENTE (San Vincente)
MIKE'S SKY RANCHO (Mike's Sky Ranch)
BAHIA CONCEPCION (Bahia Conception)
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Barry A.
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I like and respect both Simpson and Riesch-------I would have loved to see that discussion.
Yes, Diane, I am scared-------mostly of what I see happening around me in peoples attitudes and expectations. I am convinced that what many (most?)
people appear to "want" is impossible to provide---------no Country can afford it and still keep prospering and growing---in fact decay is the result,
of both our Country and our young people. And what the various legislatures want to "cut" in the way of spending is far-and-away the WRONG things to
cut-------teachers, fire fighters, police, infrastructure, defense, etc., the traditional things that only Govt. can do. We can only survive IMO if
we cut drastically the entitlements that previous Legislatures have enacted over the many years, and clean out corruption--------PERIOD. All else is
just windowdressing to me. The National Debt. is totally out of control and THAT is unexceptable!!!!
All the other stuff that the Main-stream Media more and more provides is just mis-leading hype, half-truths, skewed perceptions, and unproductive
& silly intertainment, IMO, and does more harm than good---------and "the people" just suck it up getting more and more disgusted and angry and
confused.
Not good. And NONE of this has anything to do with David K. and correcting spelling errors, but it is a lot more important!!!
Barry
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Cypress
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Bajatripper, Your ideology is embarasing, if you actually believe all that stuff?
[Edited on 4/24/2012 by Cypress]
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David K
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I might add, that to be really picky about spelling one would need to use the Spanish accent marks, ñ, and ü where needed. So, to not be so hard
nosed, I don't use (often) or consider the lack of accent marks.
Technically Ligui is Ligüí... 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
I like and respect both Simpson and Riesch-------I would have loved to see that discussion.
Yes, Diane, I am scared-------mostly of what I see happening around me in peoples attitudes and expectations. I am convinced that what many (most?)
people appear to "want" is impossible to provide---------no Country can afford it and still keep prospering and growing---in fact decay is the result,
of both our Country and our young people. And what the various legislatures want to "cut" in the way of spending is far-and-away the WRONG things to
cut-------teachers, fire fighters, police, infrastructure, defense, etc., the traditional things that only Govt. can do. We can only survive IMO if
we cut drastically the entitlements that previous Legislatures have enacted over the many years, and clean out corruption--------PERIOD. All else is
just windowdressing to me. The National Debt. is totally out of control and THAT is unexceptable!!!!
All the other stuff that the Main-stream Media more and more provides is just mis-leading hype, half-truths, skewed perceptions, and unproductive
& silly intertainment, IMO, and does more harm than good---------and "the people" just suck it up getting more and more disgusted and angry and
confused.
Not good. And NONE of this has anything to do with David K. and correcting spelling errors, but it is a lot more important!!!
Barry |
I certainly agree with a number of your points! Shoot, in part of it, you sound like a progressive! There are other points with which I
disagree---- you sound like you could still be a part of the old and gone GOP.
Corruption? Yes, way too much of that. How do you feel about the money in politics, the idea of Citizen's United? That I believe is one of the
major causes of a government out of control---a government simply controlled by special interests; the special interests with mega bucks. Where the
money comes is not disclosed, and again, this affects all sides. And I wonder if real election reform will be possible in the near future as too
many politicians are enjoying too many perks.
News? My very favorite news we only get when we travel and that is CNN International. It is a place where one can actually hear about the rest of
the world! You mention that what you are calling the Main Stream Media spins and gives out half-truths that make people disgusted, angery and
confused. I am not sure about whom you are speaking. Do you think that Fox actually just reports?
You would have enjoyed Simpson and Reich.
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David K
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So to make an 'a' with an accent mark, press Alt and then 160 on the right hand key board: á
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Barry A.
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Diane-------Not familiar with "Citizen's United"---don't know their agenda, but assume they are Righties!?!?!?
How can I, as a male, NOT watch Fox News?????? Tho they slant towards
Conservative, and they admit that all the time, I think that their coverage is good to very good, as is CNN (love CNN International, but don't get it
with my Cable). PBS news is slanted left, but they are also pretty good, and they cover subjects in depth that the other's don't. I watch (&
record) a LOT of CNBC, but don't get Fox Business, darn it. I also watch MSNBC tho it drives me up the wall--------normally watch Cris Mathews on
HARD BALL as he is a kick, even tho an admitted leftie.
That about covers it.
Fox News------------beautiful correspondents, smart, well educated, funny, opinionated, and very very sharp in every way!!!! and I like their news
presentations. Oh, and the men are good, too.
Barry
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DK...your really stirring up the pot now!
(gorrilla tactic to reclaim the post - and suffer more broadside shots?)
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
Well, I am on "the right" (I use to be a 'centrist') and I don't want to believe the left is really on an agenda like this, but it is hard to believe
when I keep hearing things either very similar too, or exactly as stated above, from commentators and guests on MSNBC, The New York Times, and
elsewhere.
What do you guys expect us to believe??
I sure hope Diane and SkipJack are right, tho.
Barry |
Barry did I miss your sources for your above statements?
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paranewbi
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"So to make an 'a' with an accent mark, press Alt and then 160 on the right hand key board: á "
SIMULTANEOUSLY!
(took me 20 times to get it right and figure it out myself...that's what 2 years of junior college get you)
YOU SIR STAND CORRECTED!
(glove slap)
Duel at dawn?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
So to make an 'a' with an accent mark, press Alt and then 160 on the right hand key board: á |
Good luck, DK, getting this thread back on topic.
I think a lot of folks are just lazy about the spelling, foreign or homeland, of place names. Having been an educator, spelling and grammar
are important to me—syntax, too, for that matter. An internet forum is not, at least not this one, a haven for professional writers, so perhaps one
has to be a bit more tolerant of orthography.
Allen R
[Edited on 4-24-2012 by bufeo]
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paranewbi
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WOW...if you press 'alt' and start with 1 on the key board to the right (notice there is no keyboard to the left!...for those who pirated this
thread). alt+1= whity smiley face, alt + 2 = political correct opposite, alt+3-6=the cards in a deck!
DK led me to seek out on my own...what an inspiration!
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