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shari
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fighting for just about anything in mexico is an exercise in futility. The politicos want to secure votes so they create these initiatives like paving
and water lines...and as Don Jorge has eluded to...they are able to skim massive amounts of money off them and give contracts to favoured companies
for kickbacks etc....the feds want to win elections.
For example our fantastic new baseball stadium just got a super upgrade to astroturf, new wall, fences, and big stadium lights...for what? nobody
plays ball at night....this thing cost a veritable fortune yet our health clinic is falling apart and terribly run down and a real disgrace and health
hazard. The village folk just shake their heads in disbelief at some of these government projects...complaining that the money spent could be much
used in more important places that serve a wider community base.
Yes, most of the village are baseball fans, but our nice stadium was more than adequate.
what can we possibly do to fight for our water...kick out Los Pinos...aint gonna happen...monkey wrench the new water pipe...i doubt it. The
municipality just raised our water rates from 90 pesos to 150 pesos and we have half the water we used to get...what does one do?
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Quote: | Originally posted by shari
fighting for just about anything in mexico is an exercise in futility. The politicos want to secure votes so they create these initiatives like paving
and water lines...and as Don Jorge has eluded to...they are able to skim massive amounts of money off them and give contracts to favoured companies
for kickbacks etc....the feds want to win elections.
For example our fantastic new baseball stadium just got a super upgrade to astroturf, new wall, fences, and big stadium lights...for what? nobody
plays ball at night....this thing cost a veritable fortune yet our health clinic is falling apart and terribly run down and a real disgrace and health
hazard. The village folk just shake their heads in disbelief at some of these government projects...complaining that the money spent could be much
used in more important places that serve a wider community base.
Yes, most of the village are baseball fans, but our nice stadium was more than adequate.
what can we possibly do to fight for our water...kick out Los Pinos...aint gonna happen...monkey wrench the new water pipe...i doubt it. The
municipality just raised our water rates from 90 pesos to 150 pesos and we have half the water we used to get...what does one do?
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kind of sounds like San Diego
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Los Pinos in SQ built their own multi-million dollar desal plant to insure a steady stream of water for their fields. Maybe they will do something
similar down there. Probably right after they use up the existing supply?
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Originally posted by shari
"fighting for just about anything in mexico is an exercise in futility."
To paraphrase the Leonardo Dicaprio character in the film "Blood Diamonds"
"T-I-M" (This Is Mexico!!)
"If you want to find the secrets of the universe, think in terms of energy, frequency and vibration."
-Nikola Tesla
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People Who Give Up And Declare A Situation As Being Hopeless
Are Always Correct About The Eventual Outcome
Therefore To Them it Is More Important To Be Correct
Than Suffer Disappointment
A Lot To See And A Lot To Do
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shari
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those of you who know me....know that I am an eternal optimist...have fought long and hard for what I believe is just and am not one to just give in
to apathy....BUT...fighting for something is NOT the same here in Mexico...so I've learned not to waste too much time and energy in letter writing or
complaining to try to change something that will only change with the political climate.
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I like Baja's bad roads. It's part of what attracts me to the peninsula.
Bad roads, good people. Good roads, bad people.
I don't like gringos who move to Baja and complain about it.
I think you should move somewhere else.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Enrique2012
I like Baja's bad roads. It's part of what attracts me to the peninsula.
Bad roads, good people. Good roads, bad people.
I don't like gringos who move to Baja and complain about it.
I think you should move somewhere else. |
I have found, living in BCS, that this overused statement is just not true. All roads bring al kinds of different people. There is no screener on a
bad road only letting good people through. I'll bet the drug runners prefer bad roads as there is less traffic.
What good roads do is bring more to the community those roads serve. People travel more and there are more deliveries. You need to think of more
than your selfish one week a year vacation.
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Quote: | Originally posted by shari
those of you who know me....know that I am an eternal optimist...have fought long and hard for what I believe is just and am not one to just give in
to apathy....BUT...fighting for something is NOT the same here in Mexico...so I've learned not to waste too much time and energy in letter writing or
complaining to try to change something that will only change with the political climate. |
As I understand it there is bad blood between the Delegado and the governor... one of the two may have to change before anything gets done.
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Where to Enrique? Back to Michoacan where there are as many people, but poorer, but much better roads? Poor roads encourage much less tourism, fewer
jobs, and one hell of a lot less mercantile trade. But I guess in a wide area where 3,000 people live, bad roads are really better because someone who
does not live here thinks so.
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I am trying not to drift here. I like to think I am focusing what pitiful scarcity of karma that I possess in getting one lousy stretch of road fixed.
That's all. Maybe I should say this more clearly LET'S SEE IN THE COMING WEEKS IF LOS BACHEROS SHOW UP. YES? OR NO! entiendes?
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Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Quote: | Originally posted by Enrique2012
I like Baja's bad roads. It's part of what attracts me to the peninsula.
Bad roads, good people. Good roads, bad people.
I don't like gringos who move to Baja and complain about it.
I think you should move somewhere else. |
I have found, living in BCS, that this overused statement is just not true. All roads bring al kinds of different people. There is no screener on a
bad road only letting good people through. I'll bet the drug runners prefer bad roads as there is less traffic.
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The first person I heard this statement attributed to was Doña Anita Espinoza in El Rosario, who used it to indicate how the paving of the
Transpeninsular Highway had opened the door for all kinds of rats to invade the peninsula, rats who would never have been interested in making the
drive down the old trail.
That said, I know the standard of living of my Paceño friends improved a lot when the Transpeninsular was paved.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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shari
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i really dont see what "bad blood" between a mayor and governor has to do with getting a road near vizcaino fixed...or denying other coastal villages
piped in water...it really has nothing to do with Asuncion at all...these decisions are federal not estatal. It affects the Bahia Tortuga residents as
well as Asuncion.
public works money is very tight all over the municipality...cops and garbage men arent paid for months on end...there is no power at the village
office or water company so they cant give us receipts...no money to pay the bills so I dont see where the money to fill some potholes that will come
from...and they will just open up again if ya put a bandaid on them...the road is well travelled and quick fixes dont last but a couple weeks...it
needs to be repaved and will be done when the tortuga road is finished so have patience grasshopper.
Each place has it's positive and negative things about it. But I can tell you that the road is a thousand times better than it was when I first came
here. I can certainly put up with some potholes to live in the paradise I call home.
[Edited on 4-26-2012 by shari]
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Quote: | Originally posted by DavidE
Where to Enrique? Back to Michoacan where there are as many people, but poorer, but much better roads? Poor roads encourage much less tourism.
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In most cases, you'd have a point. But two years ago, when I took my daughter on a long drive through Mexico, we avoided Michoacan about the time
those seven military (including a female) people were found decapitated by a highway there. THAT will definitely put a damper on tourism, too.
There most certainly is but one side to every story: the TRUTH. Variations of it are nothing but lies.
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I guess I was misinformed. I was told the governor had influence over what happens in their state.
Where is all the money going?
Quote: | Originally posted by shari
i really dont see what "bad blood" between a mayor and governor has to do with getting a road near vizcaino fixed...or denying other coastal villages
piped in water...it really has nothing to do with Asuncion at all...these decisions are federal not estatal. It affects the Bahia Tortuga residents as
well as Asuncion.
public works money is very tight all over the municipality...cops and garbage men arent paid for months on end...there is no power at the village
office or water company so they cant give us receipts...no money to pay the bills so I dont see where the money to fill some potholes that will come
from...and they will just open up again if ya put a bandaid on them...the road is well travelled and quick fixes dont last but a couple weeks...it
needs to be repaved and will be done when the tortuga road is finished so have patience grasshopper.
Each place has it's positive and negative things about it. But I can tell you that the road is a thousand times better than it was when I first came
here. I can certainly put up with some potholes to live in the paradise I call home.
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shari
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of course the governor has some influence but it's not just about Asuncion...people from tortugas, vizcaino, guerrero negro etc...vendors, company
delivery vehicles are all suffering....machinery from the cooperativa here clears the sand dunes once in awhile and the potholes are filled by crews
from Vizcaino...so some political differences of opinion between a mayor and governor most likely wont have alot of bearing on things.
Now if a governors daughter was killed when she flipped her vehicle over one of the dunes...that might get some action....but as I said, these road
repairs are on a time table and wont get done because we write some letters. I do believe that when the governor comes to cut a ribbon on some showy
project....they should have to drive in that road instead of flying in to the airstrip...then the would see first hand what we deal with on a daily
basis....like THAT"S gonna happen.
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Is there a reason why the road to BOLA is in such greater shape than Asuncion? Aside from the sand drift for which there is no solution.
And then there is that marvelous road to San Rosalillita (right number of l's DK?). A road going nowhere.
Regarding the water:
With the high price that abalone is garnering, can't the townfolk finance their own desal plant?
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rts551
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different state. There has been a lot of money and construction in Baja California.
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Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
Is there a reason why the road to BOLA is in such greater shape than Asuncion? Aside from the sand drift for which there is no solution.
And then there is that marvelous road to San Rosalillita (right number of l's DK?). A road going nowhere.
Regarding the water:
With the high price that abalone is garnering, can't the townfolk finance their own desal plant? |
Yes, correct... and Ralph is right about Baja Ca Sur being a different state... but the road into Bahia de L.A. has been part of the federal highway
system... and while I haven't seen any highway designations into Asuncion, it seems to be a state highway...?
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Shari says they are federal decisions
Quote: | Originally posted by shari
i really dont see what "bad blood" between a mayor and governor has to do with getting a road near vizcaino fixed...or denying other coastal villages
piped in water...it really has nothing to do with Asuncion at all...these decisions are federal not estatal. It affects the Bahia Tortuga residents as
well as Asuncion.
public works money is very tight all over the municipality...cops and garbage men arent paid for months on end...there is no power at the village
office or water company so they cant give us receipts...no money to pay the bills so I dont see where the money to fill some potholes that will come
from...and they will just open up again if ya put a bandaid on them...the road is well travelled and quick fixes dont last but a couple weeks...it
needs to be repaved and will be done when the tortuga road is finished so have patience grasshopper.
Each place has it's positive and negative things about it. But I can tell you that the road is a thousand times better than it was when I first came
here. I can certainly put up with some potholes to live in the paradise I call home.
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