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Author: Subject: "The Federal Highway From Vizcaino B.C.S. to Bahia Tortugas B.C.S. Is A Disgrace To The Republic"
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[*] posted on 4-27-2012 at 06:01 PM


David,

I'm wondering if there was a less passive way of making your demands than a letter in the mail.

P.S. Are you David Eidell?
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[*] posted on 4-27-2012 at 07:09 PM


There isn't any other way and I am too old and crabby to waste any more of my life playing go catch the "el snipe" in Mexico. For anything else not related to this subject please U2U me.



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[*] posted on 4-28-2012 at 08:48 PM


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Originally posted by thebajarunner
But, complaining about Baja roads is like complaining about the rain in Seattle (lived up there 23 long dreary years)

It will likely make you feel a tad better, but it won't help much with the problem.

Bad Baja roads and dreary Northwest days.....
sort of resonate, one with the other IMO
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[*] posted on 4-28-2012 at 08:53 PM


And complaining about water in Baja is like complaining about ice in Antarctica.
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[*] posted on 4-29-2012 at 06:42 AM


Yes.

Especially when the penguins turn it off for no reason at all.




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[*] posted on 4-29-2012 at 03:28 PM


I have been traveling that road since '04. This was before the big push to pave between BA and BT. The road from Viz to BA was always bad with sand across the road. The road to BT was death, but now it's great.

I'm no civil engineer or geologist, but it seems that the salt flats are the reason for the unusual degradation of the road from Viz to BA. If this is true, then there is no real solution. At least, the pot holes are white and easily seen from a truck.

I'll be in tortugas in July enjoying the best YT fishing in BAJA
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[*] posted on 4-29-2012 at 03:38 PM


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I'll be in tortugas in July enjoying the best YT fishing in BAJA


Oh?

Care to elaborate.
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[*] posted on 4-29-2012 at 03:47 PM


Having been down Mex 1, and all the other numbers to the point of numbness, I can remember the original brechas, much of the trail had parallels sometimes up to 5 different tracks.

I've seen the pavement gone meaning not there in vast patches between Guerrero Negro and Vizcaino. Between the entroque to tres enriques and punta prieta it was necessary in a pickup truck to come to a full stop and then ease across the crater. The road or any road cannot be fixed by sand sealing or putting a half inch thick "overlay" down. It can only be fixed the same way SCT managed to upgrade Mex 1 and that is with a minimum of 2" of high quality asphalt, no cheating on the percentage of pitch vs aggregate, and no cheating on fully oil saturating bare earth or sand exposed in the pothole. But to let 22 miles of road go to hell while SCT employees busy themselves by whitewashing rock borders around their campos is unacceptable. A decent patch job should last almost a year. Spread oil then sand (no shortage with the sand part) around the patch. SCT knows this, it is SOP on the mainland. If SCT wanted to fix that road, it would. But it's treated like a redheaded stepchild. Thirty years ago I contracted 6 months to CalTrans and watched, listened and learned. The condition of this spur road is no accident and it is not due to salt. Take a look at I-80 as it passes through The Great Salt Lake in Utah. Salt eats concrete 10 times as fast as it does asphalt.




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[*] posted on 4-29-2012 at 08:31 PM
bup top to baja boy & all


WHAT WATER ?? B.C.S is the dryest in history !! and folk's act like fricken ant's,, about it !!!! I hope some rain and like a lot of it in small doze's come into the sur..cow's are dying like flies when I left and it wont rain till at least june ,,if that..bummed..Keith & il Tasha..:cool:
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