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bajadogs
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Hey Baja friends,
This thread has spun off-topic. I started it because I knew many bajanomads are diehard Chargers fans. HI BEACH BOB! Hope you're ok!
I don't know if Junior Seau had ever been to Baja. The only time I saw him in Baja was on the screen at Diana Bar in Tecate on black-out sundays or
maybe the Rosarito Beach motel bar. My apologies to those who don't give a flying duck about football. Seriously, I don't care anymore either so I get
it. I've seen long threads about Tiger Woods and I never had a "Baja moment" that reminded me of that spoiled punk. Pull this thread if you must Doug.
Just remember the Tiger threads rolled on and on because for some damned reason they were related to Baja. :big grin:
Peace
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
Did you ever see the movie 'You, Me and Dupree'? |
Nope!
So his restaurant serves Samoan food? But he did not cook there or eat there? 
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Who said it served Samoan food? I said it is a sports bar and restaurant in Mission Valley... and the Seau's live in Oceanside. Again, wow!  
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He wasn't just an ordinary football star. This tribute speaks volumes about Junior Seau.
http://carlsbad.patch.com/articles/up-to-60000-expected-at-p...
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/may/10/tp-stadium-gearin...
[Edited on 5-10-12 by KASHEYDOG]
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience.....  ....  ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajadogs
Hey Baja friends,
This thread has spun off-topic. I started it because I knew many bajanomads are diehard Chargers fans. HI BEACH BOB! Hope you're ok!
I don't know if Junior Seau had ever been to Baja. The only time I saw him in Baja was on the screen at Diana Bar in Tecate on black-out sundays or
maybe the Rosarito Beach motel bar. My apologies to those who don't give a flying duck about football. Seriously, I don't care anymore either so I get
it. I've seen long threads about Tiger Woods and I never had a "Baja moment" that reminded me of that spoiled punk. Pull this thread if you must Doug.
Just remember the Tiger threads rolled on and on because for some damned reason they were related to Baja. :big grin:
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Very good point .... 
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Check out the Sports Illustrated tribute
Awesome tribute in the current issue.
Including a great aerial photo of the surf board circle and memorial.
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Just saw the "Celebration of Life" for Junior and it was very nice and fitting. I watched him play so many times and will never forget his go for it
attitude. He was way to young to go. I respect him as a great player and as a person for what he gave to San Diego. He didn't have to but went the
extra mile for his big heart for those less fortunate.
I have thought a lot about junior this past week but I just can't get it. He must have been so troubled and screwed up mentally that he finally met
his demise by his own hand and for that I lost my respect for him. Leaving behind four children and a mother and father and others that loved him so
much and never opted to seek medical help of any kind? He was lost and must have been so depressed to do what he did was just plain a slap in the face
to anyone who saw him as a role model!
He was one of the greatest defense players of all time. It's all gone now and if he was so depressed that his professional life was finished and he
couldn't deal with it............... Well Junior, you blew it buddy. BIG TIME
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RIP Junior
you were a legend, you owed us better than this, i hope you find peace.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
RIP Junior
you were a legend, you owed us better than this, i hope you find peace..... |
WOODY !!!
It was never about "YOU or US".....
Really sorry you have so much pain over MY choice.
Can you imagine the pain I had in making my choice??????
TRY......Please....... TRY.....
Maybe someday when you're much older you'll understand.
And yes,
I HAVE found my peace.
Thank you, Woody............
Love Ya, Man......
[Edited on 5-12-12 by KASHEYDOG]
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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i dunno what your "choice" is. don't choose the Junior way, por favor!
all i am saying is i don't appreciate all of the adulation of his bad decision/behavior.
but WTF do i know?
RIP
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno what your "choice" is. don't choose the Junior way, por favor!
all i am saying is i don't appreciate all of the adulation of his bad decision/behavior.
but WTF do i know?
RIP |
i agree.
and all he did was play footbal and own a samoan food restaurant that he did not cook or run and then off himself!
adulation of sports stars is the silliest thing people do. it's just entertainment by skilled players. SILLY to ever call them special or "heroes"
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
all i am saying is i don't appreciate all of the adulation of his bad decision/behavior.
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I have to agree. The irony of yesterday's event, "A celebration of life" is unfitting for a suicide event.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
i dunno what your "choice" is. don't choose the Junior way, por favor!
all i am saying is i don't appreciate all of the adulation of his bad decision/behavior.
but WTF do i know?
RIP |
i agree.
and all he did was play footbal and own a samoan food restaurant that he did not cook or run and then off himself!
adulation of sports stars is the silliest thing people do. it's just entertainment by skilled players. SILLY to ever call them special or "heroes"
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Amen!!!
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Well said Dennis
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by woody with a view
all i am saying is i don't appreciate all of the adulation of his bad decision/behavior.
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I have to agree. The irony of yesterday's event, "A celebration of life" is unfitting for a suicide event. |
Man, we gotta stop agreeing on everything....
this is getting scary....
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Junior Seau gave a lot to the community through his foundation, his work with children. His restaurant/sports bar adds something unique to San Diego
- not one of a chain of restaurants. No, he wasn't a cook at the restaurant - how absurd. I have been to Seau's- had the artichoke and smoked salmon
quesadillas - excellent. The Chargers football team is big in San Diego - Junior was one of the best football players and he had thousands of fans.
Sorry - you can't negate that fact. You criticize a man who you cannot possibly understand or empathize with. Junior's life was full of love,
children, parents, success, adulation, fame. We cannot begin to know what tipped the scales for Junior that day when he felt he could no longer live
on earth.
"The irony of yesterday's event, "A celebration of life" is unfitting for a suicide event."
All I have to say to that is you're wrong so shut the eff up.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by wilderone
"The irony of yesterday's event, "A celebration of life" is unfitting for a suicide event."
All I have to say to that is you're wrong so shut the eff up. |
A different opinion. A sports fan has spoken.
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Me???? Shut up ???? Obviously, you haven't been paying attention. Try to keep up with the tempo of the living.
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Just a football player ??? .... ...I think not...
Check it out before you speak. Lest you make an idiot of yourself.... .........
Junior gave back millions to the communities he loved and the people who loved him............
http://juniorseau.org/
http://www.cityoflamesa.com/index.aspx?NID=394
http://juniorseau.org/archives/1010
http://juniorseau.org/programs
http://juniorseau.org/about-the-foundation/junior-seau
THE JUNIOR SEAU FOUNDATION – www: JuniorSeau.org
From its inception, The Junior Seau Foundation has given San Diego–area youth ongoing support. Established in 1992, the Junior Seau Foundation has
raised money and resources for programs that inspire young people to face life’s challenges with enthusiasm, hope and dignity.
In the past ten 10 Years, the Foundation has allocated over $4 million to organizations providing services to children and young adults. (includes
annual funding of an endowment) and the Foundation was ranked the 13th largest Professional Athlete Foundation (based on assets) by the Wall Street
Journal, April 28, 2007.
Who was Junior Seau?
How do I answer that question?
I want to say what I know from my experience: Junior Seau was a great football player, a passionate performer who gave it everything he had and then
some, and more importantly, an inspiration to his community. Junior never forgot his roots. He cared about people he didn’t even know. He gave
so much to so many, lifting up countless kids with his Junior Seau Foundation, his “Shop With A Jock” program every holiday season, and even
more simply with kind words, messages of positivity, a photo with a fan and his son. Junior loved, and Junior was beloved.
Junior played every play like it was his last. He celebrated big hits with a frenetic celebration which outsiders and skeptics thought of as
showboating, but those who understood his ebullient personality knew that there was so much passion inside him, the leg kicking, fist pumping,
screaming outbursts were almost uncontrollable.
Seau wasn’t a perfect linebacker. He freelanced, went away from play and formation on instinct, and sometimes left his teammates in a lurch by getting
out of position. His defenses picked up a nasty tag of being great for most of the game, then surrendering a key score on the final drive. Despite
toiling for 20 years in the NFL and playing on arguably one of the greatest teams of all time, he never won a championship.
But in San Diego, you would never find too many people waiting to criticize Junior Seau. See, Junior was one of us. He grew up here, rose from the
poverty of Oceanside, and never forgot his roots. He moved easily among us, always ready to give a little bit of his time, a laugh, a “Hey Buddy how
you doin’.” Junior cared. He was a family man, raising three kids even through a divorce.
I want to tell James all of this about Junior Seau. And, probably I will.
But now there is more to say. Much more. And everything I know about Junior Seau, all of my encounters with him, interviews, handshakes and more,
contradict how he exited this world.
How could a man so beloved feel so alone? How could a man so giving take away the single most important thing from his three teenage children? How
could a man who never gave up on the football field give up on his own life?
The Seau family is debating whether or not to donate Junior’s brain for research. Selfishly, I want them to do so. Selfishly, I want to hear that
years of hard hits and undiagnosed concussions led Seau to a dark place medically, not out of free will.
None of us know the real answers, though, and no matter what comes out in a medical journal none of us will truly know what led Junior Seau to pull
that trigger. He left us no farewell, no inclination as to why he could do such a thing.
Depression? None of us know what went on inside his mind, in darkened rooms. But those who lived on the Strand still saw him surfing, playing his
ukulele, and acting seemingly like the old Junior. Could everything we saw have been a show for the public?
Was his the fire that burned too brightly and consumed him? Again, how will we know?
I want to tell James that Junior was a role model for kids throughout San Diego County, but his final act is one we would like to see no one follow. I
want to tell him Junior was a great man who gave of his heart and soul, but what heart of that magnitude could abandon children on this earth, leaving
them with a wound that will never heal?
So many questions. Questions which have no answers. How do we celebrate the life of a man who chose to bring his own life to an end, tearing apart the
very fabric he helped sew?
I think I’m going to grapple with this for some time. I know there is no easy answer, no one way to put all of these broken bits back together into a
coherent picture.
I want to hear that it was CTE or some other brain trauma. It would make it so much easier to explain to James how one of the most positive sports
figures I have ever had the privilege of covering could commit the most negative personal act possible.
It would make it so much easier to explain to James why I’ll let him play soccer, baseball, basketball or any other sport, but not football.
What do I tell my son about Junior Seau? What would you tell your child?
Craig Elsten writes at 619Sports.net
Don\'t mess with the old dog...... Age and skill will always overcome youth and treachery! Brilliance only comes with age and
experience..... .... ....
Are you getting the most out of life OR is life getting the most out of you ??
Twenty years from now you\'ll be more disappointed by the things you didn\'t do then the things you did.
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Sad that we are littering the middle east with bodies and the majority of our country doesn't even think about it.
Those are the stories and photos that should be on the front page every day.
If only we could develop enough sadness and indignation about all the folks dying just doing what they are told overseas.
It is sad that any person has enough personal demons or sadness to do themselves in.
None of us will ever know what was in his head.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Sad that we are littering the middle east with bodies and the majority of our country doesn't even think about it.
Those are the stories and photos that should be on the front page every day.
If only we could develop enough sadness and indignation about all the folks dying just doing what they are told overseas.
It is sad that any person has enough personal demons or sadness to do themselves in.
None of us will ever know what was in his head. |
YEP!!! Well said.
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soulpatch, We're littering the middle east with bodies? Are you sure about that?
Who are we?
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