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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 08:51 PM
Cascabelles - Rattlesnakes


Some of my mountain bike buddies are seeing lots of Rattlers lately in north San Diego county.

I understand its the mating season and the males are searching out females and moving around a lot.

Is anyone seeing rattlers in Baja lately? ... pics please




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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 08:53 PM


I've seen more rattlers this year than I have in the past. Just about stepped on one on Wednesday. My wife saw four on one six mile run. Not sure about Baja but snakes in San Diego are thriving this year.



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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 09:37 PM


I almost stepped on a big rattlesnake about two weeks ago in San Ignacio. It was coiled and ready to strike when it started rattling as I was walking just feet from it on a dirt road. Scared the crap out of me (and him), I jumped 10 feet, and he slithered down in some rocks and continued to rattle. I could hear his rattle from 100 feet away afterward.
http://im1.shutterfly.com/media/47a2db33b3127ccef04dbba527a4...

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[*] posted on 5-12-2012 at 10:47 PM


April is the only month I consistantly see rattlers in Baja... when driving or hiking.



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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 01:36 AM


One of the local gardeners has caught and relocated two babies in the last few weeks. They're out there.
Usually we don't see too much of them until later in the summer when they start getting closer to home looking for water.
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 02:21 AM


Lots of comments about people seeing them here in Mulege. I have seen 3. Neighbor killed one in their kitchen...:no:



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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 03:35 AM


My neighbor found a baby and being from the desert in AZ he asked me to move it. Baby rattlers are very dangerous as they don't have much control if their venom and release all of their load.

I used a shovel and relocated the little guy.

Oh, he was in 2 pieces when he was moved :o
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 04:22 AM


thats the way I usually move them. I had a "live and let live" attitude for a long time, but after we bought our ranch in NW kansas it changed. Cattle, horses, dogs and me bitten...I now kill every one I see....Just sold the ranch, really full time in Baja now..but I doubt my attitude will change back...:saint:



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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 06:41 AM
rattlers in the Southland


With 7 long years of drought, not many animals survive. Those that do are hardy critters. I'm the local snake remover guy around town and here's one I took from a people place to the far boonies; a nice fat Pacific diamondback.

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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 06:42 AM


friends dog just died in Cabo Pulmo after abite.
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 06:44 AM


I got my dog the snake bite shot. My vet says it is like buying insurance. Might never happen but when it does you wish you had it. Nancy
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 07:23 AM


I give my dog the rattlesnake vaccine too. It's one shot then 30 days later another so plan a month ahead if you need it before a trip to Baja. Then it's once a year but you can get it more often if necessary. I get mine 2 times a year, both times right before I go to Baja, that way it's still working at it's best. And, if bitten, you still need to get the dog to the vet asap as they will need antibiotics, fluids and more than likely the antivenom. The photo is of a baby Baja California Rattlesnake I ran into a couple years ago.
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 07:23 AM


My dogs all have the snake bite shots. One has been bitten since, got very sick, but didnt die. We keep a piece of garden hose handy in case a horse or cow gets bitten. Goes down the nasal passage so they can breathe until we can move them to the vet...since they almost always get bit on the nose the swelling will cause them to strangle...Not fun, and expensive...



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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 08:40 AM


Thanks for the heads-up, with cataract and bad hearing I'm going to keep this in mind.



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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 08:44 AM


Hello Goldhuntress

Can you give me the name of the shots you got for your dogs?

Im always with one or two of my 6 labs... already lost one by snakebite 7 years ago near GN.

in the summer of 2011 i saw a german sheperd in a local rancho fighting with a rattler, the snake bite the dog but the dog eventually killed it and ate it. Then started salivating profusely and got a swollen neck the size of a basketball. The rancher only gave the dog fresh water and told me that this dog had survived another bite in the front leg a few years back.

I guess it was a dry bite, just a warning to back off but that c-cktail can do some seriuos harm even if its a dry bite.
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 08:59 AM
Vaccine


Our vet in Ensenada does not carry the vaccine. Had to get the shot in the states.

Also recommend Rattlesnake Avoidance Training for your dogs. We have Labs and took them to the clinic, then two refresher sessions......it works.......!!!!!

http://rattlesnaketraining.com/




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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 09:06 AM


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Hello Goldhuntress

Can you give me the name of the shots you got for your dogs?

Im always with one or two of my 6 labs... already lost one by snakebite 7 years ago near GN.

in the summer of 2011 i saw a german sheperd in a local rancho fighting with a rattler, the snake bite the dog but the dog eventually killed it and ate it. Then started salivating profusely and got a swollen neck the size of a basketball. The rancher only gave the dog fresh water and told me that this dog had survived another bite in the front leg a few years back.

I guess it was a dry bite, just a warning to back off but that c-cktail can do some seriuos harm even if its a dry bite.


Dogs (and cats) can survive a bite. one of our Golden Retrievers head grew like a watermelon, but with benadryl and anti-biotics. he survived. Neighbors dog in Arizona survived a neck bite with only rest. And I have known other dogs to die. On a dry bite nothing happens (saw that happen to our current dog).
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 09:23 AM


Hi Archie, I think this is the only company that makes it vaccine and so all the vets use it. I actually talked to them when I was first looking into it had a good conversation with them. Here's the website http://www.redrockbiologics.com You can ask your vet what a good emergency kit would be too. I bring benadryl and an antibiotic with me so I can be a proactive as possible.
Also this site has some good do's and don'ts http://www.raidthewind.com/snakebite.htm
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Hello Goldhuntress

Can you give me the name of the shots you got for your dogs?

Im always with one or two of my 6 labs... already lost one by snakebite 7 years ago near GN.

in the summer of 2011 i saw a german sheperd in a local rancho fighting with a rattler, the snake bite the dog but the dog eventually killed it and ate it. Then started salivating profusely and got a swollen neck the size of a basketball. The rancher only gave the dog fresh water and told me that this dog had survived another bite in the front leg a few years back.

I guess it was a dry bite, just a warning to back off but that c-cktail can do some seriuos harm even if its a dry bite.
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 01:44 PM


Some amazing rattlesnake photos here:

http://www.fieldherpforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=...
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[*] posted on 5-13-2012 at 01:49 PM


Great pics!

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