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Skipjack Joe
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I remember the basurera on the right on the way to San Roques. The wind just blows everything ligh from the basurera across the desert. Is this where
the carefully collected bags of garbage are now going?
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shari
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Mood: there is no reality except the one contained within us "Herman Hesse"
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Igor, that was an old dump....the new one is waaaaaay out of town...out of view.
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skipjack Joe
I remember the basurera on the right on the way to San Roques. The wind just blows everything ligh from the basurera across the desert. Is this where
the carefully collected bags of garbage are now going? |
The way the wind blows along that coast, about the only way to stop the plastic bags from blowing across the desert is to get rid of the plastic
bags.
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Iflyfish
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Good one Shari, poco e poco!
I am old enough and have traveled Mexico long enough to recall the very first year the plastic bag was introduced to Mexico. The next year the
countryside was littered with plastic bags, plastic bags everywhere, cacti, fences, trees, the desert and ditches. The landscape changed for what
seemed like forever. Before this time women carried colorful shoulder bags made of fiber and the ubiquitous reboso carried everything. Of course the
plastic bag is very convenient, sanitary and inexpensive to use. It is easy to see why it has become so popular around the world. As others have said
there is a growing ecology movement in Mexico and like everywhere it is slow to make progress, but progress it is making. Building this into the
children is what will be the game changer over time. Great job! Glad your clan is into it.
Here in Oregon it has become a bit of a status symbol to participate in the annual SOLV program, Stop Oregon Litter and Vandalism, a day set aside to
clean primarily the beaches, graffiti etc. This day is well advertised and seen on television and has become a popular event.
Iflyfishinaweofthecleanersandgleaners
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OCEANUS
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Does anyone know if Wildcoast has shown any interest in the Sea of Cortez? All of their northern Baja efforts posted on their website seemed to be
along the Pacific.
We always remove trash along the beach when we are in BOLA, but it's an uphill battle. Even within our relatively small range between Bahia Guadalupe,
to Angel de la Guarda, down to Barnabe rocks, these isolated beached are littered with trash. Not all of it is bags, instead it's mostly plastic
beverage bottles, oil bottles, lighters, crates, etc.
I really like the suggestion of donating reusable bags to be handed out to stores in town. This could help reduce the waste generated by single use
bags, and reduce the cost to the storeowners to purchase future stocks of new ones.
As far as recycling goes, is there a mexican equivalent of a CRV to act as incentive for towns to recycle, or are they just doing it to clean up?
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woody with a view
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no CRV just scrap prices.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by OCEANUS
As far as recycling goes, is there a mexican equivalent of a CRV to act as incentive for towns to recycle, or are they just doing it to clean up?
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Poverty is their incentive. It's well known here that, "You can't litter aluminum."
That beer can is in someone's bag before the second bounce.
Specifically....No. No CRV incentives.
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OCEANUS
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I realize that aluminum scrap prices can be an incentive, but not plastic. Plastic is expensive to recycle; not very cost effective.
A couple earlier posts have commented on some towns recycling plastic. Is this recycling program carried out individually by each town, or is there
some other program (possibly governmental, non-profit, etc. ) that is helping to subsidize the recycling effort?
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rts551
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| Quote: | Originally posted by OCEANUS
Does anyone know if Wildcoast has shown any interest in the Sea of Cortez? All of their northern Baja efforts posted on their website seemed to be
along the Pacific.
We always remove trash along the beach when we are in BOLA, but it's an uphill battle. Even within our relatively small range between Bahia Guadalupe,
to Angel de la Guarda, down to Barnabe rocks, these isolated beached are littered with trash. Not all of it is bags, instead it's mostly plastic
beverage bottles, oil bottles, lighters, crates, etc.
I really like the suggestion of donating reusable bags to be handed out to stores in town. This could help reduce the waste generated by single use
bags, and reduce the cost to the storeowners to purchase future stocks of new ones.
As far as recycling goes, is there a mexican equivalent of a CRV to act as incentive for towns to recycle, or are they just doing it to clean up?
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They are mostly surfers
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by OCEANUS
I realize that aluminum scrap prices can be an incentive, but not plastic. Plastic is expensive to recycle; not very cost effective.
A couple earlier posts have commented on some towns recycling plastic. Is this recycling program carried out individually by each town, or is there
some other program (possibly governmental, non-profit, etc. ) that is helping to subsidize the recycling effort? |
There are recycleing businesses here, and they take everything from paper to glass, and metals, but I'm sure it's trucked out, or shipped out to be
processed. Maybe it goes to Japan.
The most popular item to be sold for scrap are the power lines that get ripped off way too often.
%*)@#%@* speed freaks. They all need to die.
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rts551
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Problem is that the smaller communities do not have organized land fills or recycling centers.
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boe4fun
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What Dennis said. So far, druggies have broken into our complex at the Special Ed. School in La Paz and have stolen tools, taken copper wiring and
tubing from the air conditioning system on the roof, and the heavy (triply?) wire that runs from out front of the complex.
Two dirt roads diverged in Baja and I, I took the one less graveled by......
Soy ignorante, apático y ambivalente. No lo sé y no me importa, ni modo.
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by shari
Igor, that was an old dump....the new one is waaaaaay out of town...out of view. |
Unfortunately it is
still used by many....
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